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i think a website like fitday.com or thedailyplate.com would be a valuable tool to help you monitor your calorie intake. you can also use it to adjust your macro values (carb, protein, fat.) making sure that your diet is spot on along with your amount of cardio and keeping tabs on heart rate is one of the best places to direct your research. refining these variables can make a world of difference.
 
The diet my Dr. has me on goes as fallows: (I have not tried any supplements as I was told I'm a high risk and surprisingly not a diabetic and need to loose weight the old fashion way through a good diet and exercise the natural way)

Breakfast:
1 cup steel cut oats, 1 bowl of Total cereal, 1 cup skim milk, 1 banana and 2 ounces of blue berry's, 1 Glass O.J.

Lunch:
Low calorie tortilla wrap made with deli turkey, fat free mayonnaise and tomatoes, Celery or Carrot sticks, 3 cup fat free yogurt, Cambell's chicken noodle soup, Grapefruit juice or 8 ounce water

Dinner:
One cup of whole grain pasta, 1/2 cup marinara sauce, grilled skinless chicken breast or 3 broiled chicken thighs or baked fish (Tilapia or Salmon), Tossed green salad or Salad made with mixed greens and two ounces of cheese , Sauteed mushrooms, baked pinto beans or red beans once a week steak well done, 8 ounce glass of water 1/2 glass red wine with steak only.

Snacks between meals:
1 ounce almonds or 2 apples or oranges or 1/2 lb red grapes or 2 grapefruits(no sugar) or blue berry's or strawberries, 8 ounce glass of water or protein shake (12 ounce protein shakes 2 times a day and 2 gallons of water everyday)

This has been my diet for the past year, my Dr. changes my diet every 8 months it is hard but I only cheated on my diet a few times when I started working out 4 yrs ago when I was told I could die if I have a heart attack. I got serious and have not cheated on my diet or slacked on my work outs since.

As for my work out
My Dr also recommended that I do the Billy Blanks boot camp have been doing that for 2 years now along with the P90X and yoga it is very intense and high cardio

I am determined and motivated, it also helps that my boyfriend supports me and is doing all he can to help me and push me through my work outs he is only 180 lbs and has gotten very serious about his work out as well. Thank you for your honest feed back and for not being cruel but honest with me

First, I'd just like to say congrats on your success so far! I know how much losing fat sucks :(

I recommend doing some fasted cardio. I used to do that in the morning while I was trying to lose weight and it worked wonders.

Second, I know your doctor put you on this diet, but there's definitely room for improvement. I cut out the majority of the dairy I ate, and that helped me. If you cut dairy, I promise you'll see improvements. The human body is not meant to digest things from cows and such, and it seems you have dairy all day. You have skim milk at breakfast, mayonnaise and yogurt at lunch, and cheese at dinner. You don't need all that dairy. If you can't cut it out completely, try allowing yourself to eat dairy during only one of those meals a day. It doesn't matter that it's nonfat yogurt or skim milk. Dairy sucks in general, and the day you stop, I promise it will make a difference.

Besides that, like everybody else said, I'd check your caloric intake and macros because somethings about that diet just seem a little out of whack to me for somebody trying to lose fat. For example, I have no idea why a doctor would suggest someone eat Campbell's Chicken Noodle, that's almost 200 calories and 5 grams of fat for a small 10oz. can of soup. Beyond that, Campbell's Chicken Noodle has over 2000mg of Sodium, which will make you retain water. I'd cut the Campbell's Chicken Noodle completely. Not good.

Anyways, I say check your calories because it seems you might be over what you should be taking in. I'm not positive, but with all those dairy products and wasteful calories like Campbell's, you probably need to cut the calories some. Keep in mind, I'm not telling you to eat less, I'm telling you that if you'd change some of the things you're eating, you could drastically reduce your calorie count while still eating the same amounts of food.

Anyways, we're right here with you. I recently finished my weight loss journey so I understand your frustrations. :) Keep us all updated.
 
The diet my Dr. has me on goes as fallows: (I have not tried any supplements as I was told I'm a high risk and surprisingly not a diabetic and need to loose weight the old fashion way through a good diet and exercise the natural way)

Breakfast:
1 cup steel cut oats, 1 bowl of Total cereal, 1 cup skim milk, 1 banana and 2 ounces of blue berry's, 1 Glass O.J.

Lunch:
Low calorie tortilla wrap made with deli turkey, fat free mayonnaise and tomatoes, Celery or Carrot sticks, 3 cup fat free yogurt, Cambell's chicken noodle soup, Grapefruit juice or 8 ounce water

Dinner:
One cup of whole grain pasta, 1/2 cup marinara sauce, grilled skinless chicken breast or 3 broiled chicken thighs or baked fish (Tilapia or Salmon), Tossed green salad or Salad made with mixed greens and two ounces of cheese , Sauteed mushrooms, baked pinto beans or red beans once a week steak well done, 8 ounce glass of water 1/2 glass red wine with steak only.

Snacks between meals:
1 ounce almonds or 2 apples or oranges or 1/2 lb red grapes or 2 grapefruits(no sugar) or blue berry's or strawberries, 8 ounce glass of water or protein shake (12 ounce protein shakes 2 times a day and 2 gallons of water everyday)

This has been my diet for the past year, my Dr. changes my diet every 8 months it is hard but I only cheated on my diet a few times when I started working out 4 yrs ago when I was told I could die if I have a heart attack. I got serious and have not cheated on my diet or slacked on my work outs since.

As for my work out
My Dr also recommended that I do the Billy Blanks boot camp have been doing that for 2 years now along with the P90X and yoga it is very intense and high cardio

I am determined and motivated, it also helps that my boyfriend supports me and is doing all he can to help me and push me through my work outs he is only 180 lbs and has gotten very serious about his work out as well. Thank you for your honest feed back and for not being cruel but honest with me

I'm not the expert on food here, but here's my opinion :)
The cereal as well as oats looks unnecessary. Why not just have the oatmeal and pop a multivitamin if you're looking for extra vitamins? And a cup of oatmeal is too much.1/2 cup is better. Assuming that's a dry measure you're talking about.
Also, in my own experience, juice is just empty calories. Have the whole fruit instead of the juice, maybe for a snack post workout?
3 cups of yoghurt? Too much. If you're going to have yoghurt, have the plain kind with your berries, and only a small portion (1/2 cup-cup)
Campbell's chicken noodle soup is not really nutritionally dense food, and it's salty as hell. I'd cut that out too.
Hard cheese, like cheddar and swiss, unfortunately, is not great either. It's very fattening.
Try adding a big green salad at lunch time, or some green veggies.
You're on the right track though, so just make some tweaks to your routine diet and exercise and you'll see great results.
There's a post here that lists foods that are good:
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/w...e-fitness-womens-forum-start-here-678961.html
 
listen to anniefiedler. she did it with diet and cardio.

she did not touch steroids or any drug. it can be done with diet and exercise. change your lifestyle.

cut out the dairy, salts. your doctor should not put you on campbells soup. too much sodium. salt is your enemy and its in EVERY processed food and EVERY frozen food, and in bread etc.

eat whole foods. veggies, fruit. drink WATER, drink WATER, and drink more WATER.

fasted cardio is awesome. do it in the morning. walk or jog is fine.

eat breakfast, get your metabolism going... and eat a very light dinner. make sure you eat a small meal every 2-3 hours. a cup of fruit, a salad, etc. no large meals

you are well on your way, no stopping now. what you were doing when you were 500 pounds was a poor lifestyle, now you are improving but you have a lot of room to improve still. i dont see why you wont easily lose another 100 pounds with a disciplined lifestyle
 
eat breakfast, get your metabolism going... and eat a very light dinner. make sure you eat a small meal every 2-3 hours. a cup of fruit, a salad, etc. no large meals

^^ Right. No large meals. Leaving out the places where you said "this or this" it sounds like, unless I misread, that in one dinner you may eat pasta w/ marinara, chicken, a salad w/ cheese, sauteed mushrooms and beans. That's too much for one meal, especially a meal at the end of your day. Your meals should be smaller.

The point of eating many small meals is to keep your metabolism active throughout the day, which you're doing by eating snacks between your meals. But that's not going to matter if you're eating meals this large. That's more food than your body needs at one time, especially at the end of your day, so when your body doesn't use it, it's going to store some of it which is (obviously) what you dont want.
 
Thank you so much. It really means a lot to me I love the feed back I am getting and looking back when my Dr. switched my diet to this current one I can honestly say I have only been able to maintain my weight I switch up my work out routine every 30 days so my body does not get used to it. I do boot camp regularly because it is high paced and makes me feel like I am burning a lot of calories but again your right it is my diet! I have been loosing weight until it changed to this. I do plan on hitting the gym 5 days a week but will check with my Dr first but other then my diet is my work out ok?

my schedule is:
Monday, Wednesday and Friday 45min to an hour either P90X or Billy Banks cardio, on Wednesday along with my regular work out(Billy Banks boot camp). swim on Tuesday and Thursday for an hour. I do about 30 laps in the pool then hit the steam room for about 30 minutes(that's all I can take with out loosing my breath too badly).

I do a lot of jogging and walking, jump rope and a little weight lifting, I tried racket ball Never again lol I am not to the point where I can get into playing any sports it takes too much out of me but I do fear for my life. I don't want to die at an early age because of an eating disorder. I have a wonderful man and great kids who support me. I am really scared and desperate my family wont allow me to do the gastric surgery so this is my only hope.

My next Dr. appointment is next month where he will change my diet again but until then I will cut out the cheese along with the dairy and the Cambell soup and bring it to his attention I will also o check the calorie intake I have gotten so comfortable with what my Dr says I fallow it to a T with out any question or input you don't understand seeing me at over 510 lbs down to 318 lbs feel like a miracle I never thought it would happen I really want to get down to 180 lbs and I believe I can do it just going take time and more hard work as far as my work out what do you recommend? what should I add, change or drop completly?
 
Thank you so much. It really means a lot to me I love the feed back I am getting and looking back when my Dr. switched my diet to this current one I can honestly say I have only been able to maintain my weight I switch up my work out routine every 30 days so my body does not get used to it. I do boot camp regularly because it is high paced and makes me feel like I am burning a lot of calories but again your right it is my diet! I have been loosing weight until it changed to this. I do plan on hitting the gym 5 days a week but will check with my Dr first but other then my diet is my work out ok?

my schedule is:
Monday, Wednesday and Friday 45min to an hour either P90X or Billy Banks cardio, on Wednesday along with my regular work out(Billy Banks boot camp). swim on Tuesday and Thursday for an hour. I do about 30 laps in the pool then hit the steam room for about 30 minutes(that's all I can take with out loosing my breath too badly).

I do a lot of jogging and walking, jump rope and a little weight lifting, I tried racket ball Never again lol I am not to the point where I can get into playing any sports it takes too much out of me but I do fear for my life. I don't want to die at an early age because of an eating disorder. I have a wonderful man and great kids who support me. I am really scared and desperate my family wont allow me to do the gastric surgery so this is my only hope.

My next Dr. appointment is next month where he will change my diet again but until then I will cut out the cheese along with the dairy and the Cambell soup and bring it to his attention I will also o check the calorie intake I have gotten so comfortable with what my Dr says I fallow it to a T with out any question or input you don't understand seeing me at over 510 lbs down to 318 lbs feel like a miracle I never thought it would happen I really want to get down to 180 lbs and I believe I can do it just going take time and more hard work as far as my work out what do you recommend? what should I add, change or drop completly?

The fact is, you can exercise all you want, but if your diet isn't right, you won't lose weight. You can lose weight just with a good diet (no exercise), but you can't lose weight with just exercise (and a bad diet)...I'm obviously not recommending though that you don't exercise. You should do both to be most effective.

I can't really comment on your exercise routine because that's not really something I know a ton about. Fasted jogging did wonders for me while I was losing weight. If you could wake up in the morning and go for a little 30 minute jog before you've eaten anything, it would help. It helped me.

Here's the thing with doctors, people are different. A textbook can't tell you what will work for a person because different things work for different people. What works for me, or someone else on this board may not work for you. When I first joined, I used to just read EVERYTHING and everybody's advice...and eventually, either somebody's plan will work for you too, or you'll find a combination of things we've all said to work for you. So much of losing the weight is just finding out what your body responds to. Trial and error, which kind of sucks, but it's the truth.

Also, SO SO SO much of a lifestyle change comes from changing your mentality. That means you can't be thinking "I'm doing this because it's my only hope because my family won't let me get gastric bypass." Your mentality needs to be that you're doing this because you want to and because you know this is truly the best and only way to go about it.

To be honest, gastric bypass is a terrible surgery anyways. I personally think it's only a matter of time before this surgery isn't allowed because there are SO many problems with it. First, it's an unnecessary surgery. Some people get the GB, but eventually gain weight again bc GB doesn't change your lifestyle or mentality. You don't wake up from GB and suddenly not crave junk food and large portions. Doctors lie. Because GB doesn't change your lifestyle or mindset, you'd likely gain the weight back. You would have undergone an unnecessary surgery and paid all that money for nothing. GB isn't permanent, but a lifestyle change is. We're telling you what foods to eat not in hopes you'll eat this way until you've lost the weight, but in hopes you'll change your lifestyle forever. That's the ONLY way to lose weight permanently. There are no magic pills. There are no shortcuts. There is no permanent surgery. Beyond that, GB is just generally dangerous. My ex boyfriend's mother had GB and has had several strokes since then. So you can't wish you could have the GB surgery, you should be happy your family stopped you.

Besides, you'll feel better when you do it all by yourself anyways. :-)

Anyways, I'd cut out all that dairy, the Campbell's and the juice. Juice is a lot of calories for a drink. I personally would rather drink water, so I can eat more rather than waste 100 calories and all that sugar on a cup of juice.

Besides that, I think everything you're eating is fine. It's just about how much you're eating of them and when. Doctors don't really tell people that WHEN you eat something matters. I eat things in the morning that I wouldn't eat at night. Also, for example, you don't need oats AND cereal for breakfast. It's just things like that, choosing.

It's tricky. So much trial and error, but don't get confused. I'm telling you to cut down on things and that I think you may be consuming too many calories and that some of your macros may be high, but I am not telling you to eat LESS, I'm telling you to eat SMART. Eating very little doesn't help people lose weight. Then, the body just stores what you do eat.

Cutting out dairy and all the sodium from Campbell's could help anybody, but besides that, try cutting out one thing in that diet at a time for a few days each and see how it makes you feel. You may realize by doing that that there's something in there your body just doesn't deal with well. We all handle things differently. My college room mate can NOT lose weight eating fruit because her body is just bad at dealing with all the sugars, but when I lost weight I ate fruit all day. So ya never know. :)
 
Welcome Msesquisite! First, congratulations on your amazing 200 pound loss and your continuing journey. I cannot add much to what's already been posted. However, you may want to read RottenWillow's thread on the IF (Intermittent fasting)fat loss protocol. http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/w...ing/surefire-fat-loss-if-approach-717365.html

The approach here is the refine the fast....to cajole the metabolism into doing what we want it to do, i.e. spare muscle and consume bodyfat. This is done by eating meals of a specific size, consisting of specific macros in a certain order, after a controlled fast.

You can pm RW for more detailed information, and I'm betting she could help devise a meal plan for you.

Of course, you'd want to run this past your doctor.

:)
 
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