Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below What happens when you take in more protien than your body needs? I understand that it helps your body in rebuilding muscles.. but (just out of curiousty)... what would happen to your body if you stopped working out but continued to take in 175-200 grams of protien on a daily basis.
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the Prince
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If it's extra calories, then what is not used will be stored as fat.
Imnotdutch
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Doesnt it depend upon your total calorie intake??
Protein can be used for energy too if you arent above your maintenance calorie level.
Protein can be used for energy too if you arent above your maintenance calorie level.
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Cackerot69
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Grrr...I hate this "Extra protein is stored as fat" crap.
Extra protein is stored as fat, IF (and only if) repair requirements are met, carb requirements are met, calories are above maintenance. Any other time extra protein is just converted to glucose and used as energy (the process gluconeogenesis).
In other words, when bulking just eat enough for repair becuase carb and calorie requirements will be met. When cutting eat all the protein you want as long as you don't go above maintenance. Protein should always be your highest macro when cutting (unless on ketogenic diet), IMO...becuase it has the highest thermic effect, speeds the metabolism, it's more filling, blunts insulin, can't be stored as fat, and so on....
Extra protein is stored as fat, IF (and only if) repair requirements are met, carb requirements are met, calories are above maintenance. Any other time extra protein is just converted to glucose and used as energy (the process gluconeogenesis).
In other words, when bulking just eat enough for repair becuase carb and calorie requirements will be met. When cutting eat all the protein you want as long as you don't go above maintenance. Protein should always be your highest macro when cutting (unless on ketogenic diet), IMO...becuase it has the highest thermic effect, speeds the metabolism, it's more filling, blunts insulin, can't be stored as fat, and so on....
Cackerot69
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Protein and carb energy are the same. They are both glucose. So, no that's not right.
blood_drinker
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cack is 100% correct.
Cackerot69
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Of course 
Cackerot69 said:
Well, what I meant to say was that Protein is much more difficult for the body to convert into energy form - again, this is what I heard. Would there not be some truth to this or carbs wouldn't be the first choice for energy or so much more readily to be used as energy than protein? Perhaps I'm just not not wording it correctly. I've also exerieneced on a couple of high proten diet attempts that if I don't get carbs, I feel utterly depleted. So there must be a difference when the body it choses to use carbs for energy rather than being forced to convert the aminos to energy.
Cackerot69
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That new winking smiley is quite gay...
The coversion is protein to energy is a simple process. Yes, if carbs are available then the protein won't need to be coverted to carbs...which goes back to the "if repair requirements are met, carb requirements are met, and calories are above maintenance" thingy....
But, if you eat more protein than you need and not enough carbs then you will still get the same energy you are lacking from the protein.
The coversion is protein to energy is a simple process. Yes, if carbs are available then the protein won't need to be coverted to carbs...which goes back to the "if repair requirements are met, carb requirements are met, and calories are above maintenance" thingy....
But, if you eat more protein than you need and not enough carbs then you will still get the same energy you are lacking from the protein.
its not that easy.......... to many factors in the body to say proteins is the same as carbs and used as the same
the have the same funtions on some things......... but calories are calories...... extra is fat........ that my friend.... is period.
but extra protein like you said will not matter much as in compared to if first the carbs, fat and protein are filled first.
but its correct to say that it is harder for the body to use protein.......... carbs first........ then after 20 minutes of areobics.... it goes to fat........... so unless there is not carb stores in the body..... it will go to protein or muscle first.
the have the same funtions on some things......... but calories are calories...... extra is fat........ that my friend.... is period.
but extra protein like you said will not matter much as in compared to if first the carbs, fat and protein are filled first.
but its correct to say that it is harder for the body to use protein.......... carbs first........ then after 20 minutes of areobics.... it goes to fat........... so unless there is not carb stores in the body..... it will go to protein or muscle first.
Cackerot69
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It really is that easy...
MuSuLPhReAk
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Oh and too much protein will give u nice runny shits...mmmm
Hoffmeister
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Actually, what I think he's getting at is the efficiency of converting protein to glucose.
Protein converts to glucose at only 58%. So consuming 100 grams of "extra" protein would only convert to 58 grams of glucose.
Protein converts to glucose at only 58%. So consuming 100 grams of "extra" protein would only convert to 58 grams of glucose.
buffal2001
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So is it just the aminos that get deaminated in the liver and subsequently pissed out?
Tuff-Stuff
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blakbelt said:
you still need to be worried about it, just not near as much.....I wouldn't exceed 2g per pound of body weight when bulking. it also has alot to do with the time you consume it. If you take all your protein after your workout then you'll only abosrb about 30g of it because you body can only digest and absorb so much of it at a time. make sure you space your protein intake out throughout the day.
Cackerot69
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No amino's are just pissed out. They all will do something.
Basically, if you're bulking don't exceed 1g/pound of bodyweight, but if you're cutting eat as much as you want while staying below maintenance calories (and of course get some fat in there).
Basically, if you're bulking don't exceed 1g/pound of bodyweight, but if you're cutting eat as much as you want while staying below maintenance calories (and of course get some fat in there).
Cackerot69 said:
I don't agree with the part about not exceeding 1g of protein per pound of body weight. maybe you have this backwards. when bulking you need ATLEAST 1g per pound of body weight. Some people would even say 3-4 g's per pound of body weight. But like I said before, I wouldn't take in more then 2g's. when cutting you shouldn't exceed 1.5 g's per pound of body weight....I think 1g is ideal for cutting.
Cackerot69
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No I didn't mean at least 1g/pound. When bulking all energy and carb requirements are met so all of the protein needed will go to repair. For repair purposes alone, 1g per pound is more than enough.
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