Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below Started monday and have yet to gain a pound. I've taken one cap of the drol and one shot of tren ed. So I've done 5 of each. I thought my strength shot up a bit today in the gym but it wasn't anything noticable, could of just been myself pushing extra hard. We'll see how it goes, I've never had to take more than 50mg of drol a day to get the effects, I'm on the fence right now about how great this stuff is, my face doesn't look the slightest bit bloated. I'm drinking tons of water and the protein intake has been through the roof, not just from shakes either, mostley turkey,chicken and tuna. I'll keep you updated. So far I'm holding steady at 200lbs. For those of you that are going to say where is the test I didn't want to bother with it since this is only going to be a 6 week cycle and I'll be running test all summer.
orbit drol and quest tren 75
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Fuck bro! YOu know what I already think of the Quest gear. But that dosent sound too good about Orbit right now. I cant really give you any feedback on the drol because I have never used it. Its only been 5 days though ... wait and see into next week how things are turning out and keep us updated/
bicepts101
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i know man...its only been 5 days bro..chill out
Nucman
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How much tren are you doing /d? I feel and see the effects of tren w/in 2 doses. No night sweats, aggression? I'd question the gear. The 50mg/d drol I'd feel w/in 30 min. I feel it helps my aggression in the gym. A week of 50mg/d of drol, and no bloat at all? Once again I'd question the gear, maybe it's legit but underdosed. I'd try and double up the dose, and see if you respond to that. Have you done these chems before? GD, these are strong chemicals, and I'd think you'd be able to feel them immediatly like me. Fuck, the 1st time I did drol, hemogenin years ago, I gained 10 or 15 lbs the 1st 10 days(water), 30 lbs total in 5wks, and I kept about 12 or 15 if I can remember correctly.
psychedout
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Mavy said:
Hmmm. You don't think highly of Quest eh? Just curious why.
This is the second bro i've heard say this. I heard someone else say that there masteron was tren, but I think he was speculating, and did not have a lab test to prove. Nonetheless, it does make me wonder.
I used Quest Test E on my first real cycle (lot A566) and at 400mg/week, along with a bit of primo and dbol, I gained real nicely. This is one of there older lots, so I can't speak for there newer ones, but my experience was good.
Well today is day 6 and I'll be off to the gym in a couple hours. I just got off the scale and I still havn't gained a pound in 6 days...wheres the water???
Don't anyone take this the wrong way, I'm not saying the gear is bad...yet. Just giving some feedback. Last time I used drol I was using anapolans and I gained weight very quickly so thats why I'm skeptical. If still nothing by monday I'll double the dose and we'll go from there. I'm keeping the tren at 75ed.
I'm sure it'll start to kick in right away(positive thinking). BTW I have been sleeping just fine at night, no night sweats....but in no way is this a good measure of the gear.
Don't anyone take this the wrong way, I'm not saying the gear is bad...yet. Just giving some feedback. Last time I used drol I was using anapolans and I gained weight very quickly so thats why I'm skeptical. If still nothing by monday I'll double the dose and we'll go from there. I'm keeping the tren at 75ed.
I'm sure it'll start to kick in right away(positive thinking). BTW I have been sleeping just fine at night, no night sweats....but in no way is this a good measure of the gear.
alltraps
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to be honest, when i do anadrol, and i only do green giants, in the fist week i will put on 5-8 lbs guaranteed! no joke, its mostly water, but the scale shows gains. tren on the other hand, for one, i would never do the same time as anadrol, and second, i dont feel it for 10 days or so, unless i frontload at 150mg a day. i havent heard much feedback on the orbit anadrol, but there are a lot of people here who say great things about all their other products. tren on the other hand, i;ve done most brands floating around canada, spectro was the best by far, i did some home brew, and i have done quest as well. other then spectro, all other brands seemed to be the same for me
good luck bro,i hope something happens for you soon.
btw. how long have you been off sicne the last run? sometimes thats a factor in gains. a huge factor
good luck bro,i hope something happens for you soon.
btw. how long have you been off sicne the last run? sometimes thats a factor in gains. a huge factor
alltraps said:
I've been off for about 6 months. Why are you against drol and tren in combination? Due to gyno related problems?? I think its a great combination personally, intense strength gains. I stepped on the digi tonight and I'm up 1.6lbs. I dont think it is anything. I was definitley expecting some water retention by now.
usctrojans
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I know 2 guys on the orbit drol and both have nothing to say to me except, its unbelievable man! These guys are on 2 caps a day and have done many other drol over years and I trust them fully. (i was thinking it was probably overdosed). I would try 2 caps a day bro, and id through in some prop with that tren(just my opinion)!
alltraps
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if you havent gained at least 4-5 lbs in the first week of 50mg anadrol, its shit, straight up. take one anapolan or green giant for a week and let me know what happens.....there is no question you;ll blow up like a water baloon. 1.6 lbs, could be that large shit sitting in your intestine waiting to be pushed out.
psychedout said:
psyched - I say this because it is the only gear that I have used that i didnt feel or see 1 thing from. There was no way that I was non-responsive to it, becasue as soon as I switched brands things started to happen. I seriously question the dosing of the stuff I had ( know others grow off of it), so maybe my batch was fucked?
"I heard someone else say that their masteron was tren" - I did here a few people on a few different boards talk about this as well. I think that there were some lab tests floating around at 1 time, but were removed very quickly when they surfaced. A bit of a grey area. This would be very clever, as masteron and tren would be hard to tell the difference from, both are great lean gainers, but tren is much cheaper to make.
I dont want to start any lab wars or get any threats sent to me, but from what I understnad, the management of Quest gear had changed hands a few times, and is now run by some shady Characters. The people on top might not care as much about proper dosing and quality prod as much as the money coming in (reading BA's UG lab article - it makes sense when labs get busy and run by the wrong people). Either way, my personally experience with the last batch I used was enough to make me understand that I will never run it again. I know I know "i used it and had great results", well i didnt until i changed brands! Coincidence ... I dont think so.
I now have some Orbit EQ that I will be giving a shot, in a few short weeks, and I really dont want to run into the same problem as I did with the Quest stuff. Luckily the only thing I buy UG wise is EQ, but i ALWAYS run it, and lots of it. Everything else i go human grade. I must admitt that this thread dosent give me much confidence in the product. Usually you can tell if an oral product is good ASAP. I have not tried drol, but I know dbol i notice within a few days. There once was a time where Canadian labs were the shiznit, but in all honesty I think that the US has us now. The problem with our labs is that NOBODY TESTS THEM ... nobody! (us cheap bastards), plus its not as easy to test as in the US. Everything is by word of mouth, which a lot of the time is the best test there is, but there are also characters who non-shalontly "push" the gear, these people seem to run "all of 1 type of UG gear" all the time, then you will have a well respected source tell you that they bought $1K worth of Eurogear from them? You really have to sift through the bullshit. Orbit is erlatively new right now, so they will have to be given a chance. Quest has been around for a while, I do not here of anyone using them anymore, except for a select few.
The US has us beat. THere are 2 amazing UG labs in my mind in the US right now, they are S***a and BL. Both have been around a LONG time and have proven themselves time and time again with quality, innovative, original products that have passed MANY MANY lab tests time and time again and never fail. The only problem is that you cannot get this into Canada unless you assume it at your own risk. At first I thought no way ... not with a minimum order amount. THe way things are now, I start to consider it. Canada needs is a remailer for these guys hehehehe hint hint .. wink wink if anyone is looking for a part-time job! hahah j/k. Anyways, thats my thoughts on the subject.
Nitro ... are you by any chance cutting or going into a calorie deficit at all?
Mavy
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Well like I said alltraps the only other drol I've tried was anapolans and they were definitley stronger than this. I'm going to start taking a 2nd cap in the evening and see what happens. I really wasn't expecting to need 100mgs ed.
usctrojans, I'm not too worried about shut down from the tren since I'll only be running it for 6 weeks.
I have to admit something "is" working with this stuff but its hard to tell what. I'm definitlye not holding much water thats for sure.
Mavy in no way am I on any sort of diet, I've just been eating until I'm full...and thats a lot of food. Plus two shakes a day 33g of protein each.
Question 2. What are you using for a SERM or anti-e? Are you taking some aromasin or a-dex? If so what is your dosage. If you are taking one of these and at a good enough dosage, they could be completely illimating bloat, and possibly some of your potential for gains. I know that aromasin and femara are very good at illiminating bloat, same with the others, but not to the same degree.
I know you already know this bro ... but your like a plant ... give yourself and the steroids the ideal conditions and you should grow. By this I mean training, diet and rest must all be in check to allow the steroids to work correctly. Keep this all as strict as possible and see what happens in the next week. I suspect if everything is legit, than that is when things will start to happen for you.
Good luck man,
Mavy
Good luck man,
Mavy
bicepts101
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n1tro said:
bro....i bought some drol straight from a pharmacy my self. on the box it says you must consume ample amounts of calories to gain on it. if not you will gain nothing.....now i know this is true true with all steroids, you must up your cals, but this even more so since it doesnt bind well. make sure you eat
bicepts101
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n1tro said:Thanks for the advice bro. Seriously though it might be the drol or the tren but my appetite has been huge since I started even more so in the last couple days. I'll keep eating....
honeslty bro i didnt grow very much off that drol i bought. i ate like a pig only gained like 4 lbs in 3 weeks at 100mg ED. i know my shit was legit. i was also on 50mg proviron ED and test. yes i know my liver people..
bicepts101
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i bought them from a korean pharm myself
BigAndy69 said:
So you think its either good or pure garbage no "its okay but not the greatest" when it comes to UG drol? If thats true then double the dose really shouldnt help.
I dont understand how dudes are saying its so great then. I'm sure the majority of guys on this stuff got it from the same batch I have. Hopefully the 100mg ed will help.
psychedout
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n1tro said:
Mg per mg dbol is stronger, thus you need less, and thus less stress on the liver, hence most people use dbol.
Or, at least, thats my way of thinking.
n1tro said:
Probably thinking of me bro. I bash drol any time I get the chance and have never used it!
What a hypocryte eh?I believe the reason that alltraps was not recommending the tren and drol is because together they can progest-a-fuck-you! Why throw fuel on the fire? 1 is bad enough to worry about. They are both fairly harsh too. I would stack it with winny, EQ or primo (if I had to use it that is).
psychedout said:Mg per mg dbol is stronger, thus you need less, and thus less stress on the liver, hence most people use dbol.
Why did you even bother to add this to the thread...I guess we didnt read it enough on all the dbol vs. drol threads??
Why are you answering for BigAndy anyway?
Mavy said:Probably thinking of me bro. I bash drol any time I get the chance and have never used it!
I believe the reason that alltraps was not recommending the tren and drol is because together they can progest-a-fuck-you! Why throw fuel on the fire? 1 is bad enough to worry about. They are both fairly harsh too. I would stack it with winny, EQ or primo (if I had to use it that is).
I'm almost positive it was BigAndy.
Well as of now I'm officially up 4 lbs. Thats one week exactly. I was feeling the strength for the first time,a "real" increase this time tonight. I'm feeling more confident in the gear now. Its kinda better like this cause I'm really not bloated at all. If it continues to be like this I think it shoule be pretty significant in a couple more weeks. Time will tell.
alltraps
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i dont recomenet anadrol with deca or tren. most people (read all people i know personaly) have some prog. issues with that. me on the other hand, i do not. i do tren and anadrol together all the time and like it.
and all this talk about "you have to eat enough cals to grow off droll" is shit. in the first week, how many pound of MUSCLE do you really think anyone can gain? 2-3?
when i gain 10 lbs of drol in the first week, its mostly water, thus not requireing any nutrition loading.
anadrol makes you hold a ton of water, no question about that. if you dont, then chances are its shit.
honestly, if there is one thing i know about gear, its how anadrol works. i love this shit, and everyone knows it! right mavy.....
and all this talk about "you have to eat enough cals to grow off droll" is shit. in the first week, how many pound of MUSCLE do you really think anyone can gain? 2-3?
when i gain 10 lbs of drol in the first week, its mostly water, thus not requireing any nutrition loading.
anadrol makes you hold a ton of water, no question about that. if you dont, then chances are its shit.
honestly, if there is one thing i know about gear, its how anadrol works. i love this shit, and everyone knows it! right mavy.....
xonic2xonic2
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BigAndy69 said:
Are you saying that either the labs are not buying USP grade or that the sources providing such are bad?
alltraps said:i dont recomenet anadrol with deca or tren. most people (read all people i know personaly) have some prog. issues with that. me on the other hand, i do not. i do tren and anadrol together all the time and like it.
and all this talk about "you have to eat enough cals to grow off droll" is shit. in the first week, how many pound of MUSCLE do you really think anyone can gain? 2-3?
when i gain 10 lbs of drol in the first week, its mostly water, thus not requireing any nutrition loading.
anadrol makes you hold a ton of water, no question about that. if you dont, then chances are its shit.
honestly, if there is one thing i know about gear, its how anadrol works. i love this shit, and everyone knows it! right mavy.....
I hear you bro. I was expecting to be flopping around like a fish already but its not the case. Its hard to tell if its the drol or tren at this point.
mavy I dont understand where you got your info about quest changing hands, but I tend to have a good idea whats going on in the canadian UG scene, and I've never heard that from any source. Its also funny how after my show I cut my doses by almost 1/2, and was running all quest gear(eq/enth/deca) except for green giants for the first few weeks, and if you've seen the progress pics I put up a month ago, I've made some huge gains; which makes me wonder how it could be so under dosed???
N1tro, glad to hear you are gaining now, hopefully it snowballs from here. You may do better with the dose bumped, myself I never got anything from 50mg of anadrol, only when I bumped it to 100mg. But alltraps blows the hell up off of one tab, so I think its pretty individual
N1tro, glad to hear you are gaining now, hopefully it snowballs from here. You may do better with the dose bumped, myself I never got anything from 50mg of anadrol, only when I bumped it to 100mg. But alltraps blows the hell up off of one tab, so I think its pretty individual
psychedout
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n1tro said:
Im not answering for Bigandy, I said IMO...hence MY GODDAMN OPINION. I made an educated guess at his reasoning.
Why did I bother to add to this thread?? I don't know anymore, if I was expecting a jackass response I wouldn't have.
I didn't know that you already knew why many people choose dbol over drol. I don't follow every members posts on this board. I was simply adding some insight.
psychedout said:
I didn't mean to be a ass, I guess I'm just annoyed at all the guys jumping on anyone who likes using drol. It's like some guys think its there job to mother everyone about what gear they use. In anycase sorry for jumping on you like that.
The thread is about my cycle prgress, not what guys prefer...drol or dbol.
psychedout
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n1tro said:
No worries bro. I was probably a little ass'ish myself in my response. Ill leave it at this.
In regards to your orginal post. I am a bit curious as this is the first negative feedback i've heard about Orbits. I look forward to hearing your update.
rjl296
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psychedout said:No worries bro. I was probably a little ass'ish myself in my response. Ill leave it at this.
In regards to your orginal post. I am a bit curious as this is the first negative feedback i've heard about Orbits. I look forward to hearing your update.
weird.
i just got a bottle of there drol today, and ive yet to see ANY neg. feedback about them .
alltraps
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man, get some green giants next time and post feedback 8 days later for me. you;ll thank me later!!!
seriously, i do hope you gain from this. i do know for a fact that quest tren is the real deal. i ran it by itself, got amazing strenth gains and the night swaets were unbarable.
seriously, i do hope you gain from this. i do know for a fact that quest tren is the real deal. i ran it by itself, got amazing strenth gains and the night swaets were unbarable.
bicepts101
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n1tro said:
night sweats should have already started
I used some homebrew from a guy I know about a year ago and I remember getting the night sweats alomst immediatley...not like I want them or anything, just curious. As long as I'm gaining, otherwise whats the point of taking anything. I have to give this cycle another week to give an objective opinion.
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