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thatdude11

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ok i kno oral only cycles are said to be bad, but i have herd and read many good results...


im 5'11 190lbs 15%bf

i want to be around 6-8%bf 200lbs


i have some rpn havoc here from a friend(given to me) says he gained a good 10-15lbs on it.

i also have a amp of primobol....

but i was really interested in anavar.

i can get tabs and i have seen paper sources... i was wondering what do you recomend for a first time user trying to lean out. i dont want it swell up or bulk up at all. just add lean muscle...

please no flamming...


just asking what you think id have bettter results from

var tabs
or
var paper

or screw the var and go with primo 400ml/wk
 
i think a great 1st would be tbol in my opinion but if you ran var only then youll get nice and hard.
 
thatdude11 said:
ok i kno oral only cycles are said to be bad, but i have herd and read many good results...


im 5'11 190lbs 15%bf

i want to be around 6-8%bf 200lbs


i have some rpn havoc here from a friend(given to me) says he gained a good 10-15lbs on it.

i also have a amp of primobol....

but i was really interested in anavar.

i can get tabs and i have seen paper sources... i was wondering what do you recomend for a first time user trying to lean out. i dont want it swell up or bulk up at all. just add lean muscle...

please no flamming...


just asking what you think id have bettter results from

var tabs
or
var paper

or screw the var and go with primo 400ml/wk


Test E 250 mg/week 10 weeks and 60mg var last 6 weeks will give good results. I know you say oral only, but if you want to run oral only go with tbol or anavar if you don't want extra bloat. I've ran an oral only cycle with good results. Run tbol 6mg for 5 weeks then anavar 60mg for 5 fusing the last week of tbol with the first week of var, making a 9 week total. A good oral cycle. Still, running test with this will really help a lot. Like I already said, 250mg test with it will be so much better.
 
thanks guys for not flamming.. ok ya i think im gunna go with the var or havoc for my first time.. do primo later....

should i go with the paper var
or tabs.. i can save a lot of $ on the paper but i have herd mixed reviews...the tabs from a good lab
 
thatdude11 said:
thanks guys for not flamming.. ok ya i think im gunna go with the var or havoc for my first time.. do primo later....

should i go with the paper var
or tabs.. i can save a lot of $ on the paper but i have herd mixed reviews...the tavs come from axiolabs


Screw the havoc. If it's legal, it ain't the real shit. The ANAVAR from hi-tech phramceuticals is bullshit.
 
thatdude11 said:
thanks guys for not flamming.. ok ya i think im gunna go with the var or havoc for my first time.. do primo later....

should i go with the paper var
or tabs.. i can save a lot of $ on the paper but i have herd mixed reviews...the tavs come from XXXXX


edit your post. DO NOT post lab sources here.

Thanks!
 
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thatdude11 said:
thanks guys for not flamming.. ok ya i think im gunna go with the var or havoc for my first time.. do primo later....

should i go with the paper var
or tabs.. i can save a lot of $ on the paper but i have herd mixed reviews...the tavs come from axiolabs

First edit your post we dont mention lab names.....second how old are you?
Why oral only u scared of the needle?
 
enacer420nj said:
First edit your post we dont mention lab names.....second how old are you?
Why oral only u scared of the needle?


im 22 going on 23 in a few weeks...

no im not scared of a needle or i wouldnt have baught primo'

idk my first time.. im only trying to gain lean muscle.. and think out a little...

i am not trying to do test due to the bloat factor.. and i would rather stick to a substance with less sides..



also havoc is real PH- if you read up on it.. almost every person has gained atleast 10lbs..on a 6 week cycle..(if im not mistaken i read that they removed it from the shelves a few weeks ago due to it being found to be a loop hole in the steroid scene)
 
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