Opinions on 1st Cycle

[Vinny4]

Hey guys. I've been reading on the forums for over a year now and I finally feel that I've learned enough to start my first cycle. I'd just like some of your opinions. My goals for this cycle are to make some quality gains while hardening up a bit and possibly losing a little body fat. It would be nice if I end up below 10%.

25 yrs
5'6
180 lb
12% bf

Weeks 1-12 400mg test E (200 mon,200 thurs)(adex on hand)
Weeks 6-12 50mg Winstrol ED (7 caps N2 Guard ED)

PCT
Week 14-18
Clomid 25/25/25/25
Perfect Post Cycle from Mr. Supps.com (DAA, Forma, Forged)

Only questions I have are...

I have enough test to run 500 mg/week... Would it be a waste to run the extra 100 mg for my first cycle?

Should I throw in the adex or only use if needed? If I should throw it in what dose do you guys recommend?

Do I need HCGenerate? If so how should I take it? I've read many different opinions on HCGenerate.

Thanks in advance for any input!

 

[the_alcatraz]

500 test is too much for your first cycle IMO. Some will disagree...I ran 300 test ew for my first cycle and I put on serious mass

 

[MattJS]

500 can be too much, it was too much for me, I'd have had just as much fun at 250 with a lot less gyno (always have an AI handy, I learned that one the hard way) you would get a solid recomp with 250-300mg test e for ten weeks IMO

 

[WolfpackAlpha]

Hey guys. I've been reading on the forums for over a year now and I finally feel that I've learned enough to start my first cycle. I'd just like some of your opinions. My goals for this cycle are to make some quality gains while hardening up a bit and possibly losing a little body fat. It would be nice if I end up below 10%.

25 yrs
5'6
180 lb
12% bf

Weeks 1-12 400mg test E (200 mon,200 thurs)(adex on hand)
Weeks 6-12 50mg Winstrol ED (7 caps N2 Guard ED)

PCT
Week 14-18
Clomid 25/25/25/25
Perfect Post Cycle from Mr. Supps.com (DAA, Forma, Forged)

Only questions I have are...

I have enough test to run 500 mg/week... Would it be a waste to run the extra 100 mg for my first cycle?

Should I throw in the adex or only use if needed? If I should throw it in what dose do you guys recommend?

Do I need HCGenerate? If so how should I take it? I've read many different opinions on HCGenerate.

Thanks in advance for any input!

Drop your test dosage to 300mgs/week and add HCGenerate, you'll see good gains from a light cycle. What you need is a good diet and training regiment. If you're looking to lean out and really look hard, go with the evolutionary/bodyopus diet along with HIT training.

 

[dylangemelli]

Hey guys. I've been reading on the forums for over a year now and I finally feel that I've learned enough to start my first cycle. I'd just like some of your opinions. My goals for this cycle are to make some quality gains while hardening up a bit and possibly losing a little body fat. It would be nice if I end up below 10%.

25 yrs
5'6
180 lb
12% bf

Weeks 1-12 400mg test E (200 mon,200 thurs)(adex on hand)
Weeks 6-12 50mg Winstrol ED (7 caps N2 Guard ED)

PCT
Week 14-18
Clomid 25/25/25/25
Perfect Post Cycle from Mr. Supps.com (DAA, Forma, Forged)

Only questions I have are...

I have enough test to run 500 mg/week... Would it be a waste to run the extra 100 mg for my first cycle?

Should I throw in the adex or only use if needed? If I should throw it in what dose do you guys recommend?

Do I need HCGenerate? If so how should I take it? I've read many different opinions on HCGenerate.

Thanks in advance for any input!

i agree with everyone else... 300-350 is plenty on your first cycle and to be honest, that's still all i run for mine.. the way you are mapping out winstrol is wrong... why 7 weeks? pick 6 or 8... also run it up until you run pct... don't stop it two weeks before... you also need to be running n2guard with winny... you definitely should always have an ai on hand and i always run one to be preventative... aromasin is much better than arimidex but if you choose to run arimidex the dosage is .5 mg eod... i'll lay this out for you...

1-12 test e 300-350 mg day
1-14 aromasin 12.5 mg eod
4-10 hcgenerate ntbm.com (dylan10 for 10%off)
11-12 hcg 500 ius week
13-14 hcg 1000 ius week
9-14 winstrol 60 mg day
9-14 n2guard ntbm.com (dylan10 for 10%off)

pct 15-18

clomid 25/25/25/25 AGguys.com
Methyl EAA and Test Infusion mrsupps.com
forma stanzol mrsupps.com
Keto burn MRSUPPS.COM
ostarine 25 mg day uniquemicals.com

 

[stevesmi]

well i will say if you are really 5 6 and 180 at just 12% body fat naturally that is an impressive base. do you have a pic to put up?

 

[EZ_E]

Welcome to EF vinny4, listen to these men you are getting SOLID guidance here....

Agreed on 300 - 350 mg's being plenty.

 

[Vinny4]

Thanks everyone for the input. I will definitely be running the test at 300mg/w. And thanks a lot Dylan for mapping that out for me. I will be throwing in HCGenerate for sure and I will definitely be looking to get some HCG. I will probably run my cycle exactly as you mapped it out. As for pics... Im going to put together a progress type of album with before middle and after pics.

Thanks again you guys are great.

 

[dylangemelli]

Thanks everyone for the input. I will definitely be running the test at 300mg/w. And thanks a lot Dylan for mapping that out for me. I will be throwing in HCGenerate for sure and I will definitely be looking to get some HCG. I will probably run my cycle exactly as you mapped it out. As for pics... Im going to put together a progress type of album with before middle and after pics.

Thanks again you guys are great.

Anytime bro...

 

[nickb86]

like others have said id get all you can from low doses, and then move on up when you actually need too