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John McLane
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I'm repeatedly told that liv 52, milk thistle etc etc are a scam and waste of money - your thoughts?
On cycle protectors a waste of time??
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Health should never be put on the back burner. I would always cover my bases as much as possible and run all the need supports like N2guard and TUDCA
John McLane
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But Rick people keep telling me they dont work and are a scam!
I can say that N2GUARD is NOT a scam. My general practitioner monitors me on cycle, and I can tell you with 100% certainty, it keeps my blood pressure in check. I have no more than a 2-3 point fluctuation between systolic/diastolic wether on or off cycle.
With some of the orals I've run that are supposed to be murder on blood pressure, mine has been largely unaffected. So firsthand, I'll confirm that it does what it says for blood pressure control.
yes the majority of supps out there are scams guys.. that is what the OP is saying.
you need to make sure ANY SUPPLEMENT, not just support supps are from trusted and legit companies.. how hard is it to tell? not that hard.. just read the ingredients.. if it has soy and other fillers then its bullshit!!
the vast array of supplements like TUDCA, n2guard, forged products that are sold at mr supps and NTBM are 100% legit, and anyone who disagrees has obviously never used them. your bloodwork doesn't lie and how you feel doesn't lie either.. guys who say these are scams are the guys who have 150/100 blood pressure on cycle and are too dumb to know that is unacceptable
you need to make sure ANY SUPPLEMENT, not just support supps are from trusted and legit companies.. how hard is it to tell? not that hard.. just read the ingredients.. if it has soy and other fillers then its bullshit!!
the vast array of supplements like TUDCA, n2guard, forged products that are sold at mr supps and NTBM are 100% legit, and anyone who disagrees has obviously never used them. your bloodwork doesn't lie and how you feel doesn't lie either.. guys who say these are scams are the guys who have 150/100 blood pressure on cycle and are too dumb to know that is unacceptable
Does that mean that after multiple before and after lipid bloods (on and off cycle) without any change in diet or supplementation that my taking "lipid stabil" is a scam? When my cholesterol drops 30+ points HDL remains the same and LDL drops and my triglycerides are virtually non existant?
And BTW I don't mean first bloods on cycle and second bloods after cycle when everything would drastically change anyhow.
And by that token all the shit I used in my last PCT which had before, after and further after bloods was a scam? No drugs, all supplements.
John McLane
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Ok, any particular brand of Tudca you would recommend? But what about the brands that were about before Mr Supps and NTBM that sold similar supps - surely someof them are decent? I'm from the UK so ordering from Mr Supps is a killer as I have to pay tax on top of the stuff when it's delivered!
bonacris
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Check out predatornutrition.com its a UK based company
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