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Okay girls..here's what happened

Karmic Pendulum said:
So, my niece consumed about 10 out of the 11 servings of natty peanut butter (shmuckers) between yesterday and today. How bad is this? She ate it with baby carrots, cottage cheese, and sugarfree, low carb (4 grams per packet) hot cocoa mix...

She's probably not yet in full ketosis, but she woke up feeling like death today, so I'm assuming she's almost there...

How much trouble is she in? I'm not sure how many cals she consumed overall, but with the PB probably a few hundred over her limit.

Responses/opinions?

Even in the context of the initial post, I am still confused. Regardless of ANY condition, ONE day of wacked-out eating won't destroy a person.

Sounds like she is struggling with finding a manageable diet - both for her sanity and for her medical concerns. In my opinion, SHE needs to start some serious research into her options and start doing some trial and error on these options.
 
Diabetes runs in my family big time. The only way for he to avoid this condition is gaining control of her eating habits that is it plain and simple self control. I have seen family members lose limbs b/c of the disease that is more then enough motivation for me to keep my eating habits and exercise in check. It is nice of you to try to help her out but fact of the matter is that there must be some effort from her. Get her started by logging everything she eats at www.fitday.com also keep the journal up to date if she eats based on emotion. How old is she and what kind of physical activity does she do now?
 
superqt4u2nv said:
Diabetes runs in my family big time. The only way for he to avoid this condition is gaining control of her eating habits that is it plain and simple self control. I have seen family members lose limbs b/c of the disease that is more then enough motivation for me to keep my eating habits and exercise in check. It is nice of you to try to help her out but fact of the matter is that there must be some effort from her. Get her started by logging everything she eats at www.fitday.com also keep the journal up to date if she eats based on emotion. How old is she and what kind of physical activity does she do now?


She is 17 years of age. She weightlifts and runs. I'm not sure whether sprinting or long distance. Her intensity has decreased by 1 1/2 miles...that is more than enough. :worried: She just can't do it anymore. I just recently heard from her that the low carb/high fat thing has caused her SERIOUS gastrointestinal problems. She had to reset everything. She ate a cup of oatmeal, some fruit and jumped straight for the candy. She'll be going to the gym to do some cardio in about 2 - 3 hours.
 
Oatmeal, yams, brown rice these carbs are fine and she needs them they will not spike her insulin. If she is on a low carb diet get her off it. If she is trying to lose weight take her body weight x 10 to get her cals then her split should look something like this 40% protein 40% carbs 20% fat. If on the first week she doesn't lose and follows it to the letter tweak it 50% protein, 30% carbs, 20% fat. If that does not work tweak it again. It is all a matter of playing with it eventually your crack the code. She needs to know that type diabetes is preventable but she needs to take control of her body and eating habits.
 
superqt4u2nv said:
Oatmeal, yams, brown rice these carbs are fine and she needs them they will not spike her insulin. If she is on a low carb diet get her off it. If she is trying to lose weight take her body weight x 10 to get her cals then her split should look something like this 40% protein 40% carbs 20% fat. If on the first week she doesn't lose and follows it to the letter tweak it 50% protein, 30% carbs, 20% fat. If that does not work tweak it again. It is all a matter of playing with it eventually your crack the code. She needs to know that type diabetes is preventable but she needs to take control of her body and eating habits.

It is about the body's ability to process the sugar , and it can not be processed with insufficient amounts of insulin. Insulin carries the sugar from your blood to the cells. Diabetics do not produce enough insulin.

The reason why low carb diets work for diabetics , is because it limits the amount of sugar in the blood , that can not be "processed". High levels of sugar in the blood is what leads to the problems with nerves , eyes , heart, kidneys.

My mother has diabetes , and I have to say that once we moved her to low carb after research and advice from her doctor and a nutritionist , it has kept her diabetes in check , and has allowed her to stay off of insulin shots.

With that said , what I mean by "low carb" , is not the "low carb/high fat" variety.

She simply follows a diet , that I believe is healthy for all individuals , whether or not you are diabetic. She limits her amounts of bread , pasta,rice , refined carbs , and eats plenty of fish , chicken , veggies , berries.
 
vachelle72 said:
It is about the body's ability to process the sugar , and it can not be processed with insufficient amounts of insulin. Insulin carries the sugar from your blood to the cells. Diabetics do not produce enough insulin.

The reason why low carb diets work for diabetics , is because it limits the amount of sugar in the blood , that can not be "processed". High levels of sugar in the blood is what leads to the problems with nerves , eyes , heart, kidneys.

My mother has diabetes , and I have to say that once we moved her to low carb after research and advice from her doctor and a nutritionist , it has kept her diabetes in check , and has allowed her to stay off of insulin shots.

With that said , what I mean by "low carb" , is not the "low carb/high fat" variety.

She simply follows a diet , that I believe is healthy for all individuals , whether or not you are diabetic. She limits her amounts of bread , pasta,rice , refined carbs , and eats plenty of fish , chicken , veggies , berries.

I agree with both you and the fine lady above you with the gorgeous legs. :) We shall see where this leads us. Thanks to all! Also, if anyone has a good story to share with her (she reads this) about their past failures and eventual successes, she'll read them with joy. She is easily motivated.

THANKS AGAIN!
 
Why doesn't she find a nutitionist that has a lot of experience with this type of person/condition? Her GYN should be able to help her find resources to deal with this.
 
it takes more than 24 hours to hit ketosis for most....excluding slin use - but thats a WHOLE 'nother story
 
Daisy_Girl said:
Why doesn't she find a nutitionist that has a lot of experience with this type of person/condition? Her GYN should be able to help her find resources to deal with this.


Her insurance doesn't cover nutritionalists. Her GYN was the one who put her on Birth Control. He finds it no need to put her on an insulin aiding drug (Met., Gluc.) and when she asked if she should go on low carb, he said no.

Only birth control, basically, for the rest of her life.
 
Obvious thing is to switch doctors.

As for insurance not covering .... I am thinking that if it going to impact her health SO considerably ... it is worth the extra expense.
 
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