Now that the primo pushers are gone...

[LT3]

Well that's all very true but a lot of us were afraid to take the guy on because the mods had his back and it wasn't worth the risk of getting banned. Myself and Needsize PM'd back and forth a few times about how blatant the self-promotion and hawking of one's own product really was. Just because a guy has a lot of Primo he touts primo primo primo, and 1000mg/week. Buy LOTS OF IT and look no further than me! Then it's human grade, human grade, human grade, until he gets a load of GTP UG and then GTP is the bomb even if its not human grade but rather no grade (underground). Then it's IGF-1. It's refreshing to hear your words but why did it go on for so long unchecked? $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

I called him up on a bunch of stuff including the IGF and Primo, but when he realizes that he cant argue back ,he just doesnt answer back. i feel bad for the guy for all his troubles but lets be real he wasnt the best influence on the board.

 

[shoestring]

I wish the guy well if he did not do anything bad to people and truly got into trouble.

Yes, me too..

 

[shoestring]

i know some shit about this.

Post up bro..

 

[alexmichael]

I didn't know him personally but he seemed like a genuinely nice guy. He emailed me numerous times when I asked him for help with a lot of newb questions. His posts always seemed sincere and he was always there to help out with anyone's questions or problems. Was he also promoting himself at the same time? Of course he was. He was in a business to make money and he was good at it from what it seemed. I seriously doubt that there are many others like him out there that were as dedicated to taking time to help others as well as pushing their products. You can argue that helping others also helped build his business and it would be hard to disagree with you on that point. For those who disagreed with him, I could see where it was frustrating to take him on. He had a lot of friends on the board and some of it was political. I for one believe he took pride in what he did and believed every word he typed. Whether you agreed with him or not, its hard to fault a guy for preaching what he believed in. At least that is my humble opinion.

 

[LT3]

I didn't know him personally but he seemed like a genuinely nice guy. He emailed me numerous times when I asked him for help with a lot of newb questions. His posts always seemed sincere and he was always there to help out with anyone's questions or problems. Was he also promoting himself at the same time? Of course he was. He was in a business to make money and he was good at it from what it seemed. I seriously doubt that there are many others like him out there that were as dedicated to taking time to help others as well as pushing their products. You can argue that helping others also helped build his business and it would be hard to disagree with you on that point. I for one believe he took pride in what he did and believed every word he typed. Whether you agreed with him or not, its hard to fault a guy for preaching what he believed in. At least that is my humble opinion.

I dont disagree. but i still think that a lot of his info was biased and driven from his desire to make money as opposed to just helping the person genuinly. for example if you asked him whats better gh or igf, he would right away say igf, why coz he benefited of that.

 

[alexmichael]

I dont disagree. but i still think that a lot of his info was biased and driven from his desire to make money as opposed to just helping the person genuinly. for example if you asked him whats better gh or igf, he would right away say igf, why coz he benefited of that.

Didn't he also benefit from answering gh? I guess if his answer was always igf and never gh without taking into consideration the person's goals and stats then you have a very valid point. By the way, I have never tried igf but was thinking about it. What do you think would be better for a 40 year old that was trying to remain as lean as possible. I'm 5-10 180 and about 8% bf. I wouldn't mind getting down to 5-6%. Right now I have a prescription for gh at 1.8 iu's per day (.6mg genotropin). What do you think adding igf to the mix would do for me?

 

[zips92]

I've always admired the general attitude of the people on these boards who choose to do something that improves them and harms no one [SIC] and truly understands the risks involved and just doesn't throw caution to the wind.

Amen brother.


I hope this thread does not get out of control.

 

[UA_Iron]

I agree, he seemed to be a genuine guy. I got sick of the blatant primo pushing and as far as I am concerned he did help a lot of people out on the board.

Nonethless, I will never bash an AAS product or give negative feedback just because I don't like another bro that pushes it. Seems contradictory to the purpose/objectives of the EF board.

Well whats worse: hyping a product to sell it-special interest conflicts or calling him out on it?

 

[alexmichael]

I agree, he seemed to be a genuine guy. I got sick of the blatant primo pushing and as far as I am concerned he did help a lot of people out on the board.



Well whats worse: hyping a product to sell it-special interest conflicts or calling him out on it?

Hyping a product that you don't believe in to sell it is hypocrytical and wrong. Calling someone out on it is a good move in my book. I think the disagreement lies in everyone's personal opinion of primo and the boogieman's motives and sincerity. I for one think he believed in his favorite product and I can't fault him for expressing his views and beliefs. I also like primo but probably wouldn't be a fan if my goals were to get huge like a lot of the guys on this site. I agree it is a weak product compared to most. It works well for me.
I don't think anyone was wrong for calling him out on his views. A good debate is always welcomed in these threads. It is always in everyone's best interest to get as much information as possible about anything they want to put into their body. Getting as many opinions as possible helps me make decisions on what I might want to try. It is amazing what I have learned from my short time on this board. The scary part is the more I learn, the more I realize that I still don't know shit compared to most of you guys.

 

[jdvert]

R.i.p.