Novaldex or proviron? (oh yeah...hello guys)

[ItalianSweetness]

Sorry fellas , i had to leave the board for a while for 2 reasons #1 A person you all have heard of got caught with a lot of stuff and he was my very good friend. I wanted to lay very low after that as you can imagine.
#2 I decided after getting gyno, i didn't want to mess with anything anymore..................so hello everyone again!!

I am thinking about doing one for the summer. I have searched proviron and novaldex and have came up with conflicting thoughts. Some say proviron helps gains in a cycle and some say it hurst gains (muscle gains i am talking about , not water!) Some say it binds to the receptor and some say it doesnt. The same stuff i hear about nolvadex. So whats the final thought on this.

 

[ItalianSweetness]

bump to top.....you guys might of forgot me already

 

[loomisH]

Italian,
If you're gyno prone, which it sounds like you are, you may want to spend the xtra money and go with arimidex. Neither proviron or nolva will get rid of estrogen, so you can still have a post-cycle rebound effect. I still got puffy nips from a cycle of test/d-bol in spite of using nolva at 2 tabs a day...the puffiness still persists 3 months after my cycle. BTW, just wondering what brought on your gyno -- was it from test, deca, or fina? Hope it isn't too bad!!! Peace,
LOOMZ.

 

[lawnsaver]

First off, you have plenty of receptor to go around. Proviron is my choice. There is no rebound effect and it ups your androgen levels, making you harder.

 

[ItalianSweetness]

This is what i mean!!! Is there or isn't there a rebound effect? I got the gyno from doing trenbolone for a week with test propinate for a week. I had to stop right away.

 

[lawnsaver]

I wouldnt have done tren without winny. When you combine test and deca/fina and get gyno, you wont know where it is coming from.

Nolva will give you a rebound effect and arimidex and proviron wont. Alway extend your porviron/nolva/arimidex into your clomid therapy.

 

[Suspension]

lawnsaver, what dosage of proviron do you recommend?

 

[ironram]

bump....lets hear some more opinions on this!

 

[therealj]

50mg ed

 

[Cornellius]

Hey bro, it has been a long time!!!!
Well, about the nolva/proviron, it cuts your water gains and as you know more water means bigger and bigger means stronger and stronger means bigger muscles. Water makes an important factor in streng by lubricating the articulations. The gains cut won´t be to much anyway, but the overal body weight will be cut a lot.

I know that my spelling is like shit, sorry.

 

[Mass Monster]

ItalianSweetness, first off welcome back bro long time no see! I am currently in week 7 of my cycle and from the d-bol and test I started getting puffy nips well I have been on nolvadex for 4 weeks and it worked but I think I got the puffy nips permenatly, sucks! anything you did to take care of that in the aftermath??

Well as for nolva hindering gains. I don't think so. I am holding no water but I am still up 30 lbs of lean muscle. I can't gain anymore but I think its froma platue with little to do with the nolvadex.

However, bro if you do have gyno...Watch out!!! even at 40mg of nolva a day i don't think you can hold it off! This is my first gyno experience and I have been on nolva most of the time at 40mg and it barely held it back!! Face it bro if we are prone its coming to get us! Good luck bro and glad to see you back!

Mass Monster