Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below I am 42yrs old, this is my third week of denkall anavar! 40mg ed.I take two doses of 20mg per day.So far I dont feel or see any results at all.I am doing anavar only.OH I am male,I lift hard and eat pretty clean.my stats are 5' 9" 185lb approx 10-12% bf,also I feel the var I have is legit cause I know my source very well.The bottle is all sealed up oxandrovet 5mg tabs ,I would appreciate any input,p.s after 6weeks of takeing the var what should I do for post cycle..clomid? or novedex? and how much for how long? thanks for any help.
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HighIntensity
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What are you expecting from a var only cycle?
It is a hardner, strength gainer not a mass builder. I am on my second day of a 100 day denkall cycle right now.
A. Denkall has been lab tested and came out perfect
B. Every account from real life body builders that I have read on 5 different boards has had nothing but positive things to say about this var. In fact your the first neg post I have seen.
C. Denkall Var does seem to take longer to kick in, so you say you just finished three weeks you may be entering the week that it finally kicks in.
See this is way 6 week cycles are var are not worth it, you would have been better off hitting 20mgs for 12 weeks then 40mgs for 6 but hindsite is 20/20.
The bottom line is Denkalls var is legit and one of the best, so unless you have fakes which is highly unlikely since its a newer product and yours came sealed, then it has not kicked in yet.
youll need clomid yes...about 50 tabs of 50mgs because the ox has shut you down already.
basic clomid cycle is as follows
300 mgs day one
100 mgs days 2-5
50 mgs until you run out
also at 42 years of age I would recommend MACA herb.
keep in mind gear is only a tool, not a majic solution.
It is a hardner, strength gainer not a mass builder. I am on my second day of a 100 day denkall cycle right now.
A. Denkall has been lab tested and came out perfect
B. Every account from real life body builders that I have read on 5 different boards has had nothing but positive things to say about this var. In fact your the first neg post I have seen.
C. Denkall Var does seem to take longer to kick in, so you say you just finished three weeks you may be entering the week that it finally kicks in.
See this is way 6 week cycles are var are not worth it, you would have been better off hitting 20mgs for 12 weeks then 40mgs for 6 but hindsite is 20/20.
The bottom line is Denkalls var is legit and one of the best, so unless you have fakes which is highly unlikely since its a newer product and yours came sealed, then it has not kicked in yet.
youll need clomid yes...about 50 tabs of 50mgs because the ox has shut you down already.
basic clomid cycle is as follows
300 mgs day one
100 mgs days 2-5
50 mgs until you run out
also at 42 years of age I would recommend MACA herb.
keep in mind gear is only a tool, not a majic solution.
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HighIntensity
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T2O said:
keep in mind the age factor, he test levels shouldl take longer to recover. Hence the longer run of clomid I advised.
btw as low as 2.5 mgs of var ed has been shown to shut down a persons natty test.
djdjdjddjon
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its such a mild steroid dood, i wouldn't expect a whole lot from it, especially by itself, maybe with some primo, winny, halo, etc...but var byitself not to mentioned stacked with anything is pretty much useless and way too expensive (jmho), best of luck nevertheless
djdjdjddjon
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id say the gains are from the cyp, lol, and probably a little synergy from the two, but everyone knows var isnt some miracle AAR, call a spade a spade...
Nutrient-Nut
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Many people think that Anavar is some kind of a perfect steroid, but in reality it's not! It shuts one down and requires Clomid, but duration can be for 2 weeks and a dosage of 50 mg's per day is usually all that one needs for recovery. It is mild and gains aren't going to be significant by any means, but your strength should go up nicely. I'm suprised that you haven't noticed anything though and I would be concerned about the legitimacy of the compound that you have.
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CanadianBro
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Nutrient-Nut said:Many people think that Anavar is some kind of a perfect steroid, but in reality it's not! It shuts one down and requires Clomid, but duration can be for 2 weeks and a dosage of 50 mg's per day is usually all that one needs for recovery.
NN
This statement is false.
I feel that Anavar is one of the best anabolics in the world. Why?
1. Great LEAN muscle gains
2. Keep ALL of your gains
3. Practically ZERO sides
4. Oral - No injections
5. Awesome strenght gains
6. Does NOT aromatize at any dosage
7. DOES NOT stops body's own Test production
For 40mg/day, Clomid is not necessary. There has been much debate whether or not Anavar shuts your natural testosterone production.
HERE'S THE FACT:
Oxandrolone does not influence the body's own testosterone production.
To clear this up: Oxandrolone does not suppress the body's own hormone production. The reason is that it does not have a negative feedback mechanism on the hypothalamohypophysial testicular axis.
This means that during the intake of Oxandrolone, unlike during the intake of most anabolics, the testes signal the hypothalamus not to reduce or to stop the release of GnRH (gonadot-ropin releasing hormone) and LHRH (Luteinizing hormon releasing hormone).
This wonderful feature of Oxandrolone can be explained by the fact that the substance is not converted into estrogen.
When given to normal men in high doses does not reduce the seminal volume or count, nor can it be converted (aromatized) into estrogen.
As far as your cycle is concerned, you should definitely run Oxandrolone for AT LEAST 8 weeks. It usually takes 3-4 weeks to begin seing results.
It is truly a wonderful substance although VERY expensive.
CanadianBro
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Baxter said:
Yes, Anavar is a great bridge cycle. It is not used more often in this situation because of the high price.
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WARBIRDWS6
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CanadianBro said:
too expensive. seems to me you can get better results for less money with barely any extra sides with a few other compounds. JMO after pondering it for next cycle.
CanadianBro
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WARBIRDWS6 said:
Interesting...
Which compunds would you be speaking of?
And yes, the price is incredible however the compund itself is truly awesome.
Nutrient-Nut
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CanadianBro said:
What's false, the statement that it's not a perfect steroid or the fact that Clomid is recommended for after cycle therapy?
No steroid is perfect and if you think that one is, then that shows your true lack of knowledge about the drug. Now, the Clomid thing can go either way. Sure, one can do an Anavar only cycle and not run Clomid afterwards, but it's better to at least run it for 2 weeks at 50 mg's per day due to the fact that most people that take Anavar by itself are taking it somewhere in the neighborhood of 40 mg ed. This dosage will shut one down. What about those studys floating around here that prove that Anavar even shuts one down at a lower dose than this.
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CanadianBro
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Nutrient-Nut said:
To state that Anavar shuts you down is false. As far as the studies, please feel free to PM them to me and I will review them.
The fact remains, I have over a dozen DOUBLE-BLIND human clinical trials that show Oxandrolone does NOT effect thew bodies own Test production.
Although, I do appreciate and respect your opinion NN
Nutrient-Nut
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CanadianBro said:
I agree that most everything out there - steroid profiles, steroid reviews, and overall literature on Oxandrolone state that the drug doesn't shut one down, but I'm not going by what the gurus write about Anavar. I believe in viewing actual experiences from friends that have used Anavar by itself in a cycle, and they all claim that the drug has shut them down. As far as the studies that prove this, HighIntensity said that 2.5 mg ed is enough Anavar to shut one down. I would like to see this study myself. I PM'ed HighIntense and mentioned this to him.
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djdjdjddjon id say the gains are from the cyp, lol, and probably a little synergy from the two, but everyone knows var isnt some miracle AAR, call a spade a spade...
The differance between cyp alone and cyp plus anavar is striking, have you ever used real anavar and I don't mean some IP shit. Anavar has little to no effect on htpa. Anavar will build quality muscle like nothing else. If you can't afford it, that's fine but don't bash something that you have no knowledge of.
The differance between cyp alone and cyp plus anavar is striking, have you ever used real anavar and I don't mean some IP shit. Anavar has little to no effect on htpa. Anavar will build quality muscle like nothing else. If you can't afford it, that's fine but don't bash something that you have no knowledge of.
CanadianBro
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DaMan said:
Already did that and NO it did not shut me down one bit. This was at 40mg BTG per day.
CanadianBro
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mvmaxx said:
I don't want to criticize however I find these tests hard to believe considering I have seen several blood tests proving the exact opposite.
Interesting though....
CanadianBro said:
Well, it wasn't me so I can't really confirm or deny it but I don't know why he'd lie. It was also the first person I had seen that showed before/after blood test results after running var.
I sure hope your studies hold true as I'd love to run a var bridge. I may turn myself into a test subject here soon and will post before and after blood results.
Could you shoot me some of those studies. I'd definitely like to read up on them. Thanks bro.
CanadianBro
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Will do mvmaxx
I'll scan the actual blood test and shoot them over to you. You will find the Anavar bridge is excellent yet expensive
I'll scan the actual blood test and shoot them over to you. You will find the Anavar bridge is excellent yet expensive
CanadianBro
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Axe said:
It really depends on which 2 cycles you are looking to bridge.
I usually run a bridge EQUAL TO or LONGER than the amount of the previous cycle.
For examply, if I just came off an 8 week SUSTANON cycle, I would run an Anavar cycle for AT LEAST 8 weeks.
The dosage also depends on which cycle you completed and at which point you are in your bodybuilding.
For example, if you just cam off a Deca/Fina/Test cycle, I would run 20mg/day or if you are 5'10" and 230lbs at 8% BF (which is much over your genetic potential) I would also run the var at 20mg/day
However, if you came of a mld test or mild deca cycle and/or you are around your genetic maximum, you could get away with 10mg/day.
Basically, it depends on a lot of things but the fact remains, Anavar will get the job done and allow your body to function fairly stable.
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HighIntensity
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I will look for some studies but yes var suppresses the HPTA.
To say it doesn't is fool hearty.
With that said I agree that var is one of the best riods to ever hit the market.
To say it doesn't is fool hearty.
With that said I agree that var is one of the best riods to ever hit the market.
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CanadianBro said:
QV EQ 800mg 12 weeks with 50mg proviron ED.
2-300 bucks vrs over 600 bucks for denkall ox. bet i get better results!CanadianBro
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WARBIRDWS6 said:
QV EQ 800mg 12 weeks with 50mg proviron ED.
Possibly, however would you have the same results using the QV EQ BY ITSELF.
I agree that you can achieve wonderful results with steroids other than ox however each of those roids on their own does not really compare to Anavar.
Test: Great Strength and Mass - Terrible Sides - Major Loss Post-Cycle
Fina: Great Strength and Mass - Terrible Sides
Deca: Solid Size and Strength - Uncontrollable Sides
Winny: Small Gains - Great Strength - Bad Sides
Anavar: Solid Gains - Great Strength - Keepable Gains - Little or Zero Sides
Sure, when you stack roids and use anti-e's, you can achieve results better than ox on it's own. However, on its own, no steroid can touch Anavar for Keepable Gains vs Side Effects.
Great comments though. I appreciate everyone's feedback.
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