no2

[Dio]

Ok.....If it is garbage, tell me why. I have people calling 1-AD crap and I know thats BS. I'm not trying to be a smart ass...............just want the facts. Like have you tried it.....or anything that has arginine alpha-ketoglutarate in it.
thanks

KJ

Well I haven't tried it but I know sh*t when I see. Let's see:

1. The web site does not list the product ingredients
2. the consistent use of quotes to say something without really saying it "dilation differnential" WTF
3. Not one scientific reference - plenty of scientific mumbo jumbo

AKG works as anticatabolic in high dosages (in the grams range) even that has not been substantiated in resistance trained athletes.

Arginine isn't bad either, although to have any effect you need grams.

So let's see at 500mg a cap, I wonder how many servings of anhting you're getting

Spend your money on something else

 

[Trenimator76]

bump! Has anyone actually tried this product yet? Im still waiting for mine anyday now.

 

[youngyoung]

NO2

I have the direct number for Ed. I'm going to call him when I get a chance and let him defend all the hype claims. After reading all the hype, anyone who has basic knowledge of physiology and endocrinology should know a "all day pump is not possible". Blood can not be shunted from organs all day to supply muscles with extra blood. Also if all your blood vessels dilated, your blood pressure would drop. I hope he will give me an answer.

In the mean time, L-Argenine is great for pumps if taken preworkout. Try Effergin by Scitec and Trac creatine by MHP. Both give good pumps.