No recovery 6 months after deca need desperate help

[badguysingh]

When taking steroids we play a game like taking chances bro. theres ppl i know who run 3-4 long cycles per year or ppl i know who run 1-2 cycle per year and been doing dat for over 8-10 years and they have recovered fine and then i know guys who cycled like 2 times in there life and still havent recoverd and done pct after pct. Do a POWER PCT or PERFECT PCT. Plus DECca is gonna take a long time 2 get out ur system nd take long time 2 recover bro. Those pct are pretty long and Try them and then stay cleab eat right and train for a few months atlest and get tested. after dat if u dont recover TRT is ur option or stay like how u r .

 

[RickRock13]

No AI in PCT is a very bad idea. That's where estrogen rebound comes into play, and a lot of people find out the hard way and end up with titties after their cycle is finished

Aromasin is perfect for recovery in PCT by preventing estrogen rebound, lowering SHBG and increasing IGF

 

[stevesmi]

azazell Thanks I know this PCT, 8 shots of 2500 iU EOD with serms then serms alone for a while. There are a lot of topics about that.
I'm gonna try it in 2 months. The problem is I don't want to use HCG again in PCT. But maybe HCG is the only way to bring balls back to life.

A problem is that my balls constantly shrinks and grow. Last two days they were big, now shrunk like hell. Maybe tomorrow big again etc. for 6 months.

Wolfpack alpha tanks too, but I don't think I need to buy N2Guard for recovery and I I don't need aromasin too, low estrogen is not good for recovery, I've heard a ton of people saying NO AI DURING PCT. SERMS can cause HPTA shutdown too. I don't see any benefit of the Perfect Post Cycle Therapy except buying expensive stuff from your sponsors.

My plan now is :

- Stop the serm (it is my 6th week)
- Unleashed/HCGenerate/Bridge
- Pray and check blood

If I still have not recover in 2 monthsm I'm gonna do the thing above (8 big HCG shots with SERMS).
If it fail, TRT for life at 22......only after one 10 weeks deca cycle.

HRT at 22 after 1 cycle? ... I hope the results were worth it .. if you resort to doing that it will be your first major mistake of your life.

 

[stevesmi]

Just do the PoWeR PCT, it works and backed up by research. I am not saying anyone is wrong but I found it this is the best PCT for restarting HPTA.

Day 1-16 : 2500iu HCG every other day.
Day 1-30 : Nolva 20mg/day; Clomid 100mg/day (50mg was taken twice per day)
Day 31-45 : Nolva 20mg/day

Google it, its one of the best PCTS.

is that why the OP did that pct twice and is still shutdown after 6 months? cause its the best pct ? I don't need some nerd at some university up north who never even popped a nut into a girl above a 3 doing tests on rats to lecture real life experiences what is a good pct and what isn't. research doesn't trump real life. just like how watching porn doesn't count as having sex just like how Chuck Norris shooting up a bunch of people on a movie set doesn't count as real military experience

 

[Hiver13]

I think i can avoid HRT I guess...
I hope so

@stevesmi who is the OP ?

 

[Zyglamail]

My opinion is you are so far past your end of cycle now lay off the HCG, thats just further keeping your pituitary depressed.

If in the past your testicular size increased with past PCT rounds that a decent indication your testis are responding to LH/FSH your body just isnt releasing LH/FSH and it wont as long as you keep jumping on and off HCG.

At this point you need to stop doing anything that it going to hamper any natural hormone production anywhere in the chain.

 

[Hiver13]

Hey guys I have a friend (girl but not girlfriend) who has pity of me and proposed me wild sex every day to boost sexdrive and maybe test...
Sounds like a joke but this is serious, there is definetly a link between libido and test.

Do you think it could help ? This was my idea and she has accepted I won't say no

 

[Hiver13]

My opinion is you are so far past your end of cycle now lay off the HCG, thats just further keeping your pituitary depressed.

If in the past your testicular size increased with past PCT rounds that a decent indication your testis are responding to LH/FSH your body just isnt releasing LH/FSH and it wont as long as you keep jumping on and off HCG.

At this point you need to stop doing anything that it going to hamper any natural hormone production anywhere in the chain.

Woaw thats a great point here ! I know my testicles are responding because they shrink sometimes. The problem is the LH/FSH

HCG can be sometimes used in PCT with heavy ass doses to kick the balls and show them how to work again. It means in my case, if the balls grow sometimes HCG is useless. Thanks.

I take HCGenerate, it should boost LH but hasnt done that much..Bridges too
Can SERMS help restart the LH/FSH factory in the brain ? Should I do another SERMs therapy after a 2 weeks break ? (just done a 6 weeks of clomid/nolva without any result)

Gonna buy phytoserms on monday hope it is always on sale.

 

[stevesmi]

^^^ okay but what we are trying to explain to you is that hcg suppresses LH and FSH, so its not a good idea to use in pct. but to use to kickstart pct. there is a big difference.

phyto-serms should still be on sale on Monday.. you just have to use the link here >>> Ruthless Supplements

 

[Azazell]

is that why the OP did that pct twice and is still shutdown after 6 months? cause its the best pct ? I don't need some nerd at some university up north who never even popped a nut into a girl above a 3 doing tests on rats to lecture real life experiences what is a good pct and what isn't. research doesn't trump real life. just like how watching porn doesn't count as having sex just like how Chuck Norris shooting up a bunch of people on a movie set doesn't count as real military experience

I believe that research matters. Real life experience is governed by so many factors. In research, its a controlled environment, you know that X is happened because Y.In his research all the men recovered after doing that cycle even men that were suppressed for a long time..

Now, I know that you have more real life experience than most of us and I am pretty sure that you know more than me. I was just suggesting to him something that worked and was documented. However, he should take the advice of an experienced individual such as you.

But I still believe that the PoWeR PCT has its place. It's well documented PROVEN with blood tests, and all the men that tried it recovered well. I personally tried and I recovered the fastest on it.