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BigCracker said:
OK, if you use it one time death is imminent.

Gimme a break-lying will only further fuel the curiosity. Just look at high school kids and AAS-the more they hear how bad AAS are, the more they realize that nobody's dying from using them. Since they feel they're being lied to, they overlook any real dangers AAS as if they're lies as well. Discussing stuff like this is a necessary evil-otherwise guys won't be able to get 1st hand 411 on what it's all about. It's up to them whether they wish to dance with the devil or not.


I agree. I have used GHB on/off for probably 10 years. It by far the best sleeping aid with regards to the occassionly insomnia that I get.

Out of the probably 20 close friends that I know that use GHB, I do not know one that has ever had a problem with it as far addiction. I have some friends that have had problems with cocaine and at least one with alcohol.
But I have never seen any crave GHB. I know it can happen with some individuals but I believe it is extremely rare.

I also have used it recreationally to provide a similiar feeling as alcohol but without toxic effects and the short duration allows you to be "sober" up quickly.

I always find it funny that people on this board complain that others that don't understand their use of AAS and laugh when people claim how dangerous AAS is. But when the same people don't understand or themselves personally can't manage another substance like Nubain or GHB, then they demonize it and say it has not place.

Claim all you want that "you" have a problem but please stop short of claiming that GHB has not purpose for anyone or that everyone will have issues. Otherwise, "you" will be just like the "them" that "you" complain about.
 
buckwheat1 said:
I agree. I have used GHB on/off for probably 10 years. It by far the best sleeping aid with regards to the occassionly insomnia that I get.

Out of the probably 20 close friends that I know that use GHB, I do not know one that has ever had a problem with it as far addiction. I have some friends that have had problems with cocaine and at least one with alcohol.
But I have never seen any crave GHB. I know it can happen with some individuals but I believe it is extremely rare.

I also have used it recreationally to provide a similiar feeling as alcohol but without toxic effects and the short duration allows you to be "sober" up quickly.

I always find it funny that people on this board complain that others that don't understand their use of AAS and laugh when people claim how dangerous AAS is. But when the same people don't understand or themselves personally can't manage another substance like Nubain or GHB, then they demonize it and say it has not place.

Claim all you want that "you" have a problem but please stop short of claiming that GHB has not purpose for anyone or that everyone will have issues. Otherwise, "you" will be just like the "them" that "you" complain about.


Your post is largely being viewed by the blind. Numerous times I've pointed out that everyone has some sort of vice that makes none of us better than the other. However, many roid guys feel their choices are superior to anyone else's in the same way fat asses pull the roid card around anybody with a decent physique. This type of hypocrisy is sheer ignorance no matter how you slice it. There's nothing wrong with having your personal beliefs, but when you start forcing them on others in a condescending manor, you are a true asshole.
 
Yes i think they should be allowed. If anyone says they ran out and used and became addicted to either Nubain or GHB because the read it on the internet has their own issues anyway.

If it is not dicussed in the open (benefits and disadvantages) then it becomes the unknown and more exciting for some.

Anything to do with opiates are dangerous but sshould we not be allowed to discuss? then i would say of course we should as that will actually prevent people from having problems. For those that use and abuse then i am afraid but banning it form Elitefitness will nto save them IMHO

Wrongun!
 
buckwheat1 said:
I agree. I have used GHB on/off for probably 10 years. It by far the best sleeping aid with regards to the occassionly insomnia that I get.

Out of the probably 20 close friends that I know that use GHB, I do not know one that has ever had a problem with it as far addiction. I have some friends that have had problems with cocaine and at least one with alcohol.
But I have never seen any crave GHB. I know it can happen with some individuals but I believe it is extremely rare.

I also have used it recreationally to provide a similiar feeling as alcohol but without toxic effects and the short duration allows you to be "sober" up quickly.

I always find it funny that people on this board complain that others that don't understand their use of AAS and laugh when people claim how dangerous AAS is. But when the same people don't understand or themselves personally can't manage another substance like Nubain or GHB, then they demonize it and say it has not place.

Claim all you want that "you" have a problem but please stop short of claiming that GHB has not purpose for anyone or that everyone will have issues. Otherwise, "you" will be just like the "them" that "you" complain about.


Well, I have used Cocaine off and on for 10yrs, never got addicted to it... I have at least 20 friends that have done the same.... Does that mean Coke isn't addictive? Does it mean others don't have problems with it? I hear your point, but you aren't conveying it very well bro..... I have no prob with Nubain, used it 100's of times, never got addicted.... However, GHB grabbed me by the balls, and I was physically addicted to that stuff for YEARS.... The withdrawl required me being tied to a bed for 4 days, and heavily sedated, so GHB addiction is REAL, even if "none of your friends" got addicted to it....

I too think this board should be open to Nubain/GHB posts questions..... Whether you agree with their use or not, they are being used by BB's.... What makes them worse then AAS? Other then the law is tougher on them....

rizz
 
Prizz said:
Well, I have used Cocaine off and on for 10yrs, never got addicted to it... I have at least 20 friends that have done the same.... Does that mean Coke isn't addictive? Does it mean others don't have problems with it? I hear your point, but you aren't conveying it very well bro..... I have no prob with Nubain, used it 100's of times, never got addicted.... However, GHB grabbed me by the balls, and I was physically addicted to that stuff for YEARS.... The withdrawl required me being tied to a bed for 4 days, and heavily sedated, so GHB addiction is REAL, even if "none of your friends" got addicted to it....

I too think this board should be open to Nubain/GHB posts questions..... Whether you agree with their use or not, they are being used by BB's.... What makes them worse then AAS? Other then the law is tougher on them....

rizz


AGREE, GHB had me by the nads too.....but anyways i think we might should be able to discuss them but NOT to tell someone to use them for a reason....such as if you can't sleep just get you some GHB......ya know

we shouldn't point out to people who aren't already using to go try something that very well might put them in the ground....make sense?
 
one of my lifelong friends just died from heroin, age 26, well, he died from the bullshit bad heroin that's being sold in chicago.
 
If you need nubain then you should find a new hobby.
completely agree. arent we supposed to feel our muscles with a mental connection? why interrupt that?

i have that personality that will do everything to the extreme. luckily this personality locked into hardcore dieting and training as a compulsion. cause thats what it is. thats why i've never done cocaine, heroin, crack.... all the hard things that ruin lives. i'd be an after thought.

nubain always has and always will seem pointless to me. but i understand the hunger if you get bit by the bug. somethings can become so important if you have that hunger for it.
 
drrman said:
i used to say the same thing about GHB bro, but you NEVER know how you will react to somethign in the FUTURE, you might not be addicted now, but it CAN happen even to the MOST NON addictive people in teh world.....i've seen it happen, guys that took a bit once a week for a year, then their wife leaves them or something happens, then its twice a week, then three times, then 5 times a fucking day!

believe me bro, i've been down this road, go back 4 or 5 years and read some of the posts i used to make on GHB defending it, saying if used responsibly it had its place, no way i would abuse it, etc etc........shit changes in life bro, its just best if we as a group on this board do NOT promote the usage, selling, price shopping etc of drugs such as these

here is a good example bro....read what i wrote and thought 5 years ago

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=21481&highlight=GHB+drrman



MAN oh MAN i have changed my mind
Ahhh GHB...welll I never used it except for sleep so to be honest ..@ 3.5% today and insomnia from being so lean rampent in my life now.......I miss it. But Nubain! It just never seemed like a really good idea and the dudes I saw on it drooling on a couch...pretty!....same with Special K! I agree that hard Narcotic threads need to be kept closed unless it is someone asking for help.

Q.
 
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