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NJRipped's Guide for Getting Below 7% Without Drugs

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I'm very happy you could get that lean coming from a fat background. Gives the rest of us hope. I mean, more hope than some skinny dude who got fat, then got lean again.
 
Bro
You don't need steroids to get to where I am. All it would do is maybe get you there faster but what happens when you stop using them? It's really all about controlling your diet.

LeeJunFan said:
hey bro, you got a good look there, that's the physique I am looking to have.
what's your opinion on the DNP question?
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JKurz1 said:
Pssstt....Hey Chewy.........No one posting on this thread is 3%, I promise you that.......not sure who you are talking to, but it doesnt matter.........
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This actor Ryan Reynolds is on the cover of men's health supposedly is 3% but even he doesn't look it either. He's got some abs though. I was 6.5% once and I had way more definition up top they he currently has, but never had his abs.
 
DNP is Crap, dont do it, too much risk involved, put down the doughnuts, give it time and you will look great.
 
ncmil said:
DNP is Crap, dont do it, too much risk involved, put down the doughnuts, give it time and you will look great.
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Yeah, that's the key, TIME. Give yourself quite a few months.
 
All of my meals take less than 2 mins to prepare except 10 eggs in the morning. I've been seperating 60 eggs at a time in 6 containers to save time there too.

abarlament said:
njripped, what is your quickest preparing meal?
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NJRipped said:
All of my meals take less than 2 mins to prepare except 10 eggs in the morning. I've been seperating 60 eggs at a time in 6 containers to save time there too.
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Congrats on your progress man...pics look good, except I swear you got that fing little bit of gyno hanging on those tits....not sure why since you claim to never use aas..I'd be pissed, work that hard and eat strict to have the droop........not a flame bro...something Id have a doc look at..............or maybe its just the lighting........
 
Thanks. Keep in mind that my BF levels were pretty high before I started my diet a few years ago so my skin isn't as tight as someone who has been lean most of their life - and as a kid I was even fatter (kept a shirt on at the shore). lol

JKurz1 said:
Congrats on your progress man...pics look good, except I swear you got that fing little bit of gyno hanging on those tits....not sure why since you claim to never use aas..I'd be pissed, work that hard and eat strict to have the droop........not a flame bro...something Id have a doc look at..............or maybe its just the lighting........
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Current diet is the same as it always has been 45% protein/45% carb & 10% fat. All clean and never cheat - chicken, eggs, tuna mostly.

ASU said:
njripped, others might asked you this before .. but what is your current diet like? ratio?
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do you eat carbs after your night-time cardio or just have protein?
I don't own any cardio equipment so I am thinking of going to the gym at about 7:00am, doing some cardio until about 7:30am and then go to work straight from the gym, the only problem is I won't be able to eat anything until 10:30am, is this going to be a problem or should I eat near enough straight after I have done my morning cardio?
 
NJRipped said:
Current diet is the same as it always has been 45% protein/45% carb & 10% fat. All clean and never cheat - chicken, eggs, tuna mostly.
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10% fat ?
That's not much

What are daily fat intakes (source & quantity) ?
 
LeeJunFan said:
do you eat carbs after your night-time cardio or just have protein?
I don't own any cardio equipment so I am thinking of going to the gym at about 7:00am, doing some cardio until about 7:30am and then go to work straight from the gym, the only problem is I won't be able to eat anything until 10:30am, is this going to be a problem or should I eat near enough straight after I have done my morning cardio?
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That is a big problem.....at least take a shake bro.......you surely can do that.

NJ - Legit? I'm as legit as they come.....I got a pic. cell...does the job......
 
NJRipped said:
Current diet is the same as it always has been 45% protein/45% carb & 10% fat. All clean and never cheat - chicken, eggs, tuna mostly.
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Do you count the fat coming from dry oats, plain brown rice, etc...?
 
You always have time to eat - I can eat one of my meals consisting of 300 calories in less than a minute if I don't have much time - just be creative. Prepare your meals in advance and always have a quick back up meal on hnd if needed.

LeeJunFan said:
do you eat carbs after your night-time cardio or just have protein?
I don't own any cardio equipment so I am thinking of going to the gym at about 7:00am, doing some cardio until about 7:30am and then go to work straight from the gym, the only problem is I won't be able to eat anything until 10:30am, is this going to be a problem or should I eat near enough straight after I have done my morning cardio?
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It was only a general statement - not directed at you or anyone else specifically. I stay in prime shape year 'round and have no problems posting pics to show my current condition.


NJ - Legit? I'm as legit as they come.....I got a pic. cell...does the job......
 
Anthrax

You know me better than that - that I dont post my specific diet. lol Everyone seems to believe that there exists a secret macro/food combo that will magically change their appearance (this isn't directed at you Anthrax).

I have tried many different diet changes over the years. Since I never cheat and have no problem eating the same thing on a daily basis I feel this to have been a pretty controlled study (at least as far as myself). I've even tried the pre/during/post workout theories (including "Nutrient Timing" by John Ivy - it's for sale if anyone wants it). :)

None of it made a bit of difference.

There are only two secrets:
1. Eat high protein/high quality food; and
2. Control your eating.

ps Oh, also buy my book when its released. lol


Anthrax said:
10% fat ?
That's not much

What are daily fat intakes (source & quantity) ?
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I count the fat/protein/carbs from every source of food I eat. I consume 2300 calories per day and eat the same thing everyday so its pretty easy to track.

ASU said:
Do you count the fat coming from dry oats, plain brown rice, etc...?
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Anthrax said:
10% fat ?
That's not much

What are daily fat intakes (source & quantity) ?
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How about 45% protein 35% fat 20% carb? 3/4 can (8.5oz) of almonds / macademia / peanuts would cover the 35 percent and give you all the efa's you needed. I'm staying away from flax as someone posted that flax promotes prostate cancer.

I think the lower the carbs the better for a larger person to lose weight
 
NJRipped,

I'm not convinced you've the best diet ever but your marketing skills are undeniable :)
 
His diet is the best.. well, not 10 % fat.. But the process is slow
With low carb diet, you see the changes in few days
 
Now all I need is something to sell. :)

At times I think my diet has zero possibility of working since people are so "consumed" by food that I'm unsure they would be able to give it up despite the many benefits. I've actually been giving some thought of switching to the dark side - targeting the fat market with a product(s) that would make their life easier while remaining fat (ie reinforced furniture or something similar). I think "fat" may just be the "in" thing someday.


Anthrax said:
NJRipped,

I'm not convinced you've the best diet ever but your marketing skills are undeniable :)
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NJRipped said:
I think "fat" may just be the "in" thing someday.
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It is
But there are already 10,325,321,256 books + 5,666,854,598 DVDs + 2,545,214 magazines and just as many nutrition gurus all over the place on that subject
 
What fat magazines are available now? I'm talking about fat acceptance and not trying to change their ways.

Anthrax said:
It is
But there are already 10,325,321,256 books + 5,666,854,598 DVDs + 2,545,214 magazines and just as many nutrition gurus all over the place on that subject
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I read one pretty funny interview about a fat resort down in Mexico, they were talking proudly about their triple reinforced chairs, because fatties are sick of breaking chairs when they sit in them... I find it hard to believe but the interview is out there...
 
ok then, I am going to get up 8:30am tomorrow and try this, I'll probably mix the cardio up a bit to keep it interesting, the cross trainer first then the bike and finally the treadmill, I will get back at my house at approx 9:20 after relaxing in the steam room for 10 minutes, I will then eat my first meal or drink a shake.
By the way, what is ideal after morning cardio, carbs or protein / or both?
Thanx!
 
NJRipped, since a few months ago, I was on a similar pro/carb/fat breakdown to you (high protein, high carb, low fat). My BF% was between 3-4% however it was extremely hard for me to gain muscle due to my restricted fat intake. I believe this is because dietary fat helps preserves nitrogen (protein is 16% nitrogen, so a negative nitrogen balance has a catabolic effect) and fat (particularly saturated and monounsaturated) increases testosterone levels.

As a result of this, I lowered my carb intake and increased my fat intake to provide roughly 27% of my daily energy by using more olive oil (80% monounsaturated fat), fish oil and flax oil (source of omega-3s). As a result, I think I have been getting better results and I don't believe my BF% has changed much, if at all.
 
He's right, I just had two clients retain me on steroid possession cases in the last month and one of them was pretty damn ripped. :) Do you have any pics posted that we can view?



wnt2bBeast said:
my guide to getting below 7%
eat what you want and add test/tren/var
no need for 7 pages of this garbage

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I have both post cardio. Good luck!

By the way, what is ideal after morning cardio, carbs or protein / or both?
Thanx![/QUOTE]

Yes, usually strawberries.

njripped- how do you get your simple sugars in? ie: fruit?
 
NJRipped said:
He's right, I just had two clients retain me on steroid possession cases in the last month and one of them was pretty damn ripped. :) Do you have any pics posted that we can view?
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i dont understand why you keep asking me for pics of my cock???
 
Here we have a typical example of a member with many posts under his belt and very willing to dispense free advice. This is why it's important to look closely at the person giving advice.

wnt2bBeast said:
i dont understand why you keep asking me for pics of my cock???
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very true.......if you want to be skinny and ripped listen to NJ

If you want to be stronger than shit, list to the beast..quit simple.
 
NJRipped said:
Here we have a typical example of a member with many posts under his belt and very willing to dispense free advice. This is why it's important to look closely at the person giving advice.
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bro you dont wonder outside the diet forum do you even lift??? anyone can starve themselves..if dont like what i say dont listen simple as that..

you created this guide and yet i look a few threads down you r looking for advice on diet? youre the expert why are you seeking validation from others
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JKurz1 said:
very true.......if you want to be skinny and ripped listen to NJ

If you want to be stronger than shit, list to the beast..quit simple.
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true however one day i will be big and ripped then who willyou listen to?
:chomp:
 
NJRipped said:
Here we have a typical example of a member with many posts under his belt and very willing to dispense free advice. This is why it's important to look closely at the person giving advice.
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i have a solution for you..you can make a thread in these forums and ask if my advice has been good to those who have listened to it..
just so you know im a MOD at a few other boards as well..so it seems those people think i know a thing or 2..

anyway go to the training forum and make a thread there
make a thread in the anabolic forum as well
however i havent posted much in either pof these forums because of people like you..its overrrun with amateurs and know it alls..so i mainly stay in the chat forum..
 
NJRipped said:
Here we have a typical example of a member with many posts under his belt and very willing to dispense free advice. This is why it's important to look closely at the person giving advice.
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i have news for you, beast knows a lot more about getting stronger than most people here. there are a few knowledgeable about strength and he's one of them. I've been involved in powerlifting for years- i couldn't give a crap about getting ripped, but if thats all your into, knock yourself out. sounds a little feminine to me though.
 
Can you please translate into the English language? Are you attempting to say that I have asked for diet advice - if so, give me a link.

wnt2bBeast said:
bro you dont wonder outside the diet forum do you even lift??? anyone can starve themselves..if dont like what i say dont listen simple as that..

you created this guide and yet i look a few threads down you r looking for advice on diet? youre the expert why are you seeking validation from others
:rolleyes:
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As I have suggested many times in the past, lets let the members judge each of our physiques - the fact that you're juicing now makes no difference to me. ;)

JKurz1 said:
very true.......if you want to be skinny and ripped listen to NJ

If you want to be stronger than shit, list to the beast..quit simple.
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NJRipped said:
Can you please translate into the English language? Are you attempting to say that I have asked for diet advice - if so, give me a link.
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im its pretty self explanatory..see the lack of carbs are affecting your brain..eat dude you may even gain some lean muscle lol
 
NJRipped said:
As I have suggested many times in the past, lets let the members judge each of our physiques - the fact that you're juicing now makes no difference to me. ;)
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im natty bruh have been for about 9 months..
i can gain and make progress without super supps
 
NJRipped has got a good physique, I don't think it is too skinny at all and this thread is about getting ripped not about strength or muscle mass!
 
LeeJunFan said:
NJRipped has got a good physique, I don't think it is too skinny at all and this thread is about getting ripped not about strength or muscle mass!
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good then you two can get a room and have homo sex together..
why get below 7% if you have little muscle mass???
:rolleyes:
 
NJRipped said:
As I have suggested many times in the past, lets let the members judge each of our physiques - the fact that you're juicing now makes no difference to me. ;)
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i can see your body in your avatar. You're too skinny for me. i like my men to look like men. :)
 
NJRipped said:
As I have suggested many times in the past, lets let the members judge each of our physiques - the fact that you're juicing now makes no difference to me. ;)
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I only could wish I was on the sauce right now..........decent attempt to rattle me.........next...........

It all comes down to really want you want.........90% of the people on these boards want to be BIG and ripped..........plain and simple. The rest, either would like to be ripped and could less less about strength and the others only care about strength and mass and could care less how fat they are.......just how it is..........
 
JKurz1 said:
I only could wish I was on the sauce right now..........decent attempt to rattle me.........next...........

It all comes down to really want you want.........90% of the people on these boards want to be BIG and ripped..........plain and simple. The rest, either would like to be ripped and could less less about strength and the others only care about strength and mass and could care less how fat they are.......just how it is..........
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i think big and i dont mean to say everyone needs to be ronnie coleman big..
but some size and then cuts...

whats the point of being a ripped string bean when you can barely bench your bodyweight???? no one here will be stepping on stage so why torture yourself t get to a defined bf level to look good for bitches on teh beach? who cares about those ho's ive seen fat guys with super hot chicks so whats the point?
you wanna be an underwear model? most of them suck cock? and if you think they dont use roids your kidding yourself
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NJRipped said:
That's ok, if that is you in your avatar I prefer girls with flat stomachs. :)
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:)
my stomach is flat as a board. see my gallery.....
i know wnt2b personally- he's HOT.
 
Sorry, this is my last response to you as I don't "chat" with children.

wnt2bBeast said:
i think big and i dont mean to say everyone needs to be ronnie coleman big..
but some size and then cuts...

whats the point of being a ripped string bean when you can barely bench your bodyweight???? no one here will be stepping on stage so why torture yourself t get to a defined bf level to look good for bitches on teh beach? who cares about those ho's ive seen fat guys with super hot chicks so whats the point?
you wanna be an underwear model? most of them suck cock? and if you think they dont use roids your kidding yourself
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hey, why has this bacome a bitching thread, Wnt2bbeast if you don't like NJ's methods then go look in the training or chat forum, some people are actually taking this thread seriously.
 
NJRipped said:
Sorry, this is my last response to you as I don't "chat" with children.
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so i touched a nerve you do like cock?

nothing wrong with his methods just see no point in being 7% when it looks like you dont even work out..then you see a ton of threads why arent i growing..because people listen to this garbage and think they can do both!!!
plus im just having fun lol
 
All I ask is that those people who like to take shots at my physique (for instance when you call me skinny), simply post pics of their own for comparison purposes to show me what a truly great physique looks like. Funny how you bros never take me up on the challenge though. lol


JKurz1 said:
I only could wish I was on the sauce right now..........decent attempt to rattle me.........next...........

It all comes down to really want you want.........90% of the people on these boards want to be BIG and ripped..........plain and simple. The rest, either would like to be ripped and could less less about strength and the others only care about strength and mass and could care less how fat they are.......just how it is..........
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NJRipped said:
Our definitions of "flat" conflict. Let it go, we're simply not attracted to each other.
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lol...
i have a feeling its cause i don't have a penis, but you're very right, i've never been attracted to skinny boys.
:rose:
 
how bout people post up their results from this guide?
im interested in this..did you maintain strength/size? be specific with your lifts if possible..ty
 
I hate to be the one to point this out but all NJ is trying to do is tell people the methods that keep him/got him ripped, he didn't have to start this thread, if you don't like it then, like I said, go to the chat forum!
 
and the reason I am sticking up for him is because I don't think is very mature to come into someones thread who is giving advice and just brag about being big. As NJ said, lets see some of your pics and then see who is more ripped, after all that is what this thread is all about... getting ripped!
 
LeeJunFan said:
I hate to be the one to point this out but all NJ is trying to do is tell people the methods that keep him/got him ripped, he didn't have to start this thread, if you don't like it then, like I said, go to the chat forum!
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im asking who has followed this and had results..if you dont like it thats not my problem..you seem to be very defensive have you followed this regiment? tell us your results? im curious

just so you know lee ive never once have said i was at a lower BF than NJ or eve claimed to have a better physqiue.. (even though i do) but this diet will doom most people who work hard to gain muscle
 
NJRipped said:
Can you please translate into the English language? Are you attempting to say that I have asked for diet advice - if so, give me a link.
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wnt2bbeast brings alot to the table. I don't feel that wnt2bbeast should have to defend himself from the likes of njripped. I would like to see threads atleast stay on topic. I don't care about the little jabbing that goes on from time to time, but some people just do it every time they post on a thread...

But from what I understand a platinum solution to this problem is coming very soon... :chainsaw:
 
gjohnson5 said:
wnt2bbeast brings alot to the table. I don't feel that wnt2bbeast should have to defend himself from the likes of njripped. I would like to see threads atleast stay on topic. I don't care about the little jabbing that goes on from time to time, but some people just do it every time they post on a thread...

But from what I understand a platinum solution to this problem is coming very soon... :chainsaw:
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thnx bro
:)
 
Its all good........he's right.......people have intrigued on how he got "skinny" (which you are man, it's ok....) so he's helping them........this is getting old.........NJ - I've posted pics before, so dont go there.........anyways.......
 
JKurz1 said:
Its all good........he's right.......people have intrigued on how he got "skinny" (which you are man, it's ok....) so he's helping them........this is getting old.........NJ - I've posted pics before, so dont go there.........anyways.......
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your right my man its getting old..
what would be nice is a diet board with some solid info from people that have actually prepared for contests..

as well as some info on gaining weight the proper way..not a see food diet..
but there are very few faces i even recognize in here
 
This thread rules & it clearly fails to suck

I'll say it again and again, you can do tren until you're pissing blood, grams of test a week but it wont magically get you ripped unless you've got the genetics.. look the 'good bros' who couldnt pass up on McD's on their ridiculous cycles, they pissed away $100's and ended up looking like shit

NJRipped isnt to everyones taste but his methods work if you want that look, and that look might not be what you think you want but I guarentee it'll get you laid. How much ass do you think shawn lattimer gets? :p (more fuel on this fire.. burn burn burn)
 
someone please nuke the mutha farkin thread! im so sick of seeing it under my profile.

nj, im glad you found yourself a way to look and feel the way you want to. but plain and simple, your plan will do more harm than good to 98% of the people trolling these boards.
 
NJRipped said:
Many people have asked about my technique for getting below 7% BF. This is what worked for me:

1. Cardio first thing in the morning before breakfast - 30 mins medium intensity;
2. Cardio at night - 15 mins high intensity;
3. Consume about 200 cals below your maintenance level once you reach 7%. It will be slow but otherwise your body may go into starvation mode (ask me how I know).
4. Eat your largest meal in the morning and gradually reduce the caloric intake of your later meals.

One of the main reasons people cannot reach low body fat levels is that they're over-estimating their caloric intake. Weigh or measure your food so that you accurately calculate your caloric intake.
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Guys you are getting ridiculous. This plan is pretty simple and straightforward. Nothing really revolutionary. It's what a lot of people do anyways, maybe with the exeption of doing less cardio, evidently NJ wanted to create more of a deficit with the cardio, big deal. It worked for him. You guys jump all over him, like others have said, for going for his goal and finding out what worked for him, why do you freak out so bad?
 
Tweakle said:
This thread rules & it clearly fails to suck

I'll say it again and again, you can do tren until you're pissing blood, grams of test a week but it wont magically get you ripped unless you've got the genetics.. look the 'good bros' who couldnt pass up on McD's on their ridiculous cycles, they pissed away $100's and ended up looking like shit

NJRipped isnt to everyones taste but his methods work if you want that look, and that look might not be what you think you want but I guarentee it'll get you laid. How much ass do you think shawn lattimer gets? :p (more fuel on this fire.. burn burn burn)
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i know people eating mcd's while cutting with tren
latt gets plenty of ass lol you and i agree on many things
i dont think you even need to lift a single weight to look like NJ..follow his diet and do cardio youll get cut for sure youre prolly better off not weight trainng since it will do more harm then good
 
Exactly! What I have accomplished is no great feat. Look at my workouts - 2 sets per bodypart - and the fact that I was chunky before starting my diet. What does that tell you? Anyone could get into the shape that I am in. Yet all these people call me "skinny" and anorexic and refuse to post any pics of their own showing a better physique. Hell, I even have people accusing me of juicing (that's you JKrew). This is just sad.

These same people back one another simply because they too do not have the physique to compete (despite the fact that they juice). And why don't they have the physique? The answer isn't because I have superior genetics but that they're too damn lazy and weak to follow their diet.

The main point of this post was to say that anyone can get ripped with a little dedication. I knew exactly how most would react and that the thread would be a riot. It is pretty damn sad that these "bodybuilders" can't compete with "skinny" me. lol

Tweakle said:
This thread rules & it clearly fails to suck

I'll say it again and again, you can do tren until you're pissing blood, grams of test a week but it wont magically get you ripped unless you've got the genetics.. look the 'good bros' who couldnt pass up on McD's on their ridiculous cycles, they pissed away $100's and ended up looking like shit

NJRipped isnt to everyones taste but his methods work if you want that look, and that look might not be what you think you want but I guarentee it'll get you laid. How much ass do you think shawn lattimer gets? :p (more fuel on this fire.. burn burn burn)
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NJRipped said:
Exactly! What I have accomplished is no great feat. Look at my workouts - 2 sets per bodypart - and the fact that I was chunky before starting my diet. What does that tell you? Anyone could get into the shape that I am in. Yet all these people call me "skinny" and anorexic and refuse to post any pics of their own showing a better physique. Hell, I even have people accusing me of juicing (that's you JKrew). This is just sad.

These same people back one another simply because they too do not have the physique to compete (despite the fact that they juice). And why don't they have the physique? The answer isn't because I have superior genetics but that they're too damn lazy and weak to follow their diet.

The main point of this post was to say that anyone can get ripped with a little dedication. I knew exactly how most would react and that the thread would be a riot. It is pretty damn sad that these "bodybuilders" can't compete with "skinny" me. lol
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they should make you a mod on the diet board!!!
bro your very full of yourself you told NS his physique wasnt all that in the mac/cheese thread lol
and nothing wrong with doing 2 sets it all depends on what you do in those 2 sets that counts..
your a god in my book
 
i forgot one thing i dont deny ive ever used gear..but i do not abuse like those that seem to be on never ending cycles of ever increasing doses..i have not used any for 9 months so dont assume you know anything about the kind of cycles i may or may not run..
 
its always the fat guys, bloated guys who attack the more disiplined...

i used to be fat a natural endomorph but since i like to look good and feel good i follow a more stricter eating schedule.

sure im strong when i eat whatever but im still a fat bloated pig. same goes for 97% of big guys at the gym..sure there powerhouses but if you yanked there tank top off they would shivel up like a slug in a salt bath in emberessment
 
georgie24 said:
its always the fat guys, bloated guys who attack the more disiplined...

i used to be fat a natural endomorph but since i like to look good and feel good i follow a more stricter eating schedule.

sure im strong when i eat whatever but im still a fat bloated pig. same goes for 97% of big guys at the gym..sure there powerhouses but if you yanked there tank top off they would shivel up like a slug in a salt bath in emberessment
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youve never seen me how can you call me fat???
it makes no sense
 
NJRipped said:
Exactly! What I have accomplished is no great feat. Look at my workouts - 2 sets per bodypart - and the fact that I was chunky before starting my diet. What does that tell you? Anyone could get into the shape that I am in. Yet all these people call me "skinny" and anorexic and refuse to post any pics of their own showing a better physique. Hell, I even have people accusing me of juicing (that's you JKrew). This is just sad.

These same people back one another simply because they too do not have the physique to compete (despite the fact that they juice). And why don't they have the physique? The answer isn't because I have superior genetics but that they're too damn lazy and weak to follow their diet.

The main point of this post was to say that anyone can get ripped with a little dedication. I knew exactly how most would react and that the thread would be a riot. It is pretty damn sad that these "bodybuilders" can't compete with "skinny" me. lol
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lol...oh come on..the SOLE reason for me accusing you (if thats what you call by inquiring), of juicing was the slight case of gyno that it LOOKED like you had...tis all.........Plus, I know a ton of kids that juice and look like they have never touched a weight.......I never flamed you man, so don't treat me like it...all I said was it was your perrogitive........you eat to live....many live to eat....personally, I'm middle of the road...when I cut, I'm strict as fuck....when I'm trying to add some mass, I losen up a little or add in some foods I normally wouldnt eat........tis all.
 
how do i know? i know because your poor attitude towards the more diciplined. also the red k i got from ya.

im not into the squabble matches here anymore lol so i should stop posting
 
georgie24 said:
how do i know? i know because your poor attitude towards the more diciplined. also the red k i got from ya.

im not into the squabble matches here anymore lol so i should stop posting
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right you know everything
didnt yo back out of posting pics once??? what happened????
 
georgie24 said:
how do i know? i know because your poor attitude towards the more diciplined. also the red k i got from ya.

im not into the squabble matches here anymore lol so i should stop posting
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the red k was for insulting SP..you wanna argue with me that fine but leave her out of it
:LockMe!:
 
i was entertained and laughed...is that a crime? also i find sp and my girlfriend to have the same body type, nice and curvy with big tits..i like that

also i was going through real life shit and couldnt handle it at the time. thats why no pics where posted.

i can easily score 50 or so more posts if i keep coming back to this thread
 
good id like to see you hit 11k
i see a lot more people who lack discipline in gaining size..they all eat well for 5 weeks then they stop because they are afraid of losing abs..wheres the discipline there??? then they all complain about thier gear..its sad..


this is not a very good guide for someone to follow..wearing 3 sweaters to keep warm is not normal..i dont see the point of someone suffering like that if they are not going to step on stage..you will get people that will follow this advice who dont know any better and will lose most of the gains they have tried to make..

NJ is ripped but he has no desire to add muscle to his frame so if he lost 8 lbs of muscle through diet he could care less..is that how you feel as well? i dont think you do otherwise you wouldnt use AAS...most people dont want to drop muscle while dieting :rolleyes:
 
georgie24 said:
its always the fat guys, bloated guys who attack the more disiplined...

i used to be fat a natural endomorph but since i like to look good and feel good i follow a more stricter eating schedule.

sure im strong when i eat whatever but im still a fat bloated pig. same goes for 97% of big guys at the gym..sure there powerhouses but if you yanked there tank top off they would shivel up like a slug in a salt bath in emberessment
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Georgie , you had better become silent...
 
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