Nipples leaking 2 weeks into Tren -Help with blood work please

[NorCal1]

I went to the doctor last week and told him my arm hurts when i do this... he said stop doing that...

so relax.. and stop touching your nips.. it wont help.

you are doing everything right. if you do not have a lump forming dont worry about it.

assuming all your stuff is legit that is..

Good Luck

One of my bro's has been telling me that this happens to him everytine he does Tren, Deca, or Androl. He said it's common for him to be able to squeze liquid out of his nipples when on these types of gear but he has never gotten Gyno and it always stops after PCT. Does not sound right to me. I found this another post where a bunch of bro's were talking about this like it is normal for them though. Does anyone else out there have this problem regularly? Check out this post " --http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/anabolic-steroids/leaky-nipples-457121.html--- ". Pull the - dashes out of the link for it to work.

 

[NorCal1]

Just got blood work back. Everything was in range except the following.
BUN/Creatine Ration 21 (range 8-19) - Not too worried about this but figured I would include anyway
Test was >1500 - (Range 350-1150) - To be expected
Luteinizing Hormone (LH) .01 (Range 1.7-8.6)
FSH Serum - .02 (Range 1.5-12.4)


My prolactin, estradoil, and progesterone were all in check.
Prolactin 9.2 (range 4-15)
Progesterone - 1.2 (Range .02-1.4)
Estradoil - 14.5 (range 7.6-42.6)

So here are my questions.
1. Based on what I'm seeing in my blood work I should not worry about gyno at this point, would you agree?
2. My understanding is you want you progesterone on the higher side of the range because when progesterone starts to drop, prolactin can go up. Is that correct? If my my assumption is that since my prolactin is low, and my progesterone is on the high side of the range I don't have anything to worry about (at this point) as it relates to Tren related gyno, would you agree.
3. I have four weeks left on my cycle, do you think I'm safe to throw the tren back in at a low dose, say 60/mg EOD
4. How long should I continue the Letro and liquid Caber/Dostinex for?
5. Should I start to transition off of Letro and start on Arimidex?
6. People have told me Forma Stanzol helps control progesterone/prolactin as well, should I start to transition off of caber/dostinex and on to foam Stanzol.


I really need to get some experts involved here. This is not your typical scenario where someone doesn't have a clue what the heck their doing and is screaming gyno. I had the signs, had everything I needed on hand, tried to follow the correct protocol to stop it, and now I believe I'm good, but again, I would feel much better if I can get some experts to chime in here. If your a rookie please don't give your two cents on this one. Thanks in advance to ANYONE who can provide meaningful advice/recommendations here!

 

[stevesmi]

just looking at your results after skimming this thread and i am guessing you are on testosterone. you are shutdown and the testosterone you are injecting is good stuff... i hope you have an excellent PCT lined up once your test ester clears.. also you should be on hcgenerate/hcg NOW to give your LH a headstart.

i would stop the tren and never run it again if you have those kinds of sides.. or at the very least run caber while on.

and yes i would run forma as part of your PCT .. it can't hurt.

have you run creatine at all in the past month or two? that can manipulate your BUN number

 

[NorCal1]

Thanks so much for the quick feedback on the blood work. MUCH APPRECIATED!!!!

I started HCG at 250IU twice a week four days ago and just took my second injection. Do you think I should throw HCGenerate on top of the HCG?. I was taking tribulis once a week (every monday at 8,000mg a day) hoping that would keep my natural test going but I guess not.

Now on my PCT.
I was planing on using
-Nolva starting a week after my last injection of test.
-Tribulus at 8,000mg a day
-Caber .05 EOD
-B6 200mgX3 times
-HCG for the first two weeks
-Foma-Stan ten pumps a day for six weeks


Should I add Parmi? Any advice on anything else I should add in here?

On the creatine, I have been on creatine for the past six months or so. Should I just come off the creatine?


As far as not running tren again, I have about 50CC's of top of the line 125 tren ace. I'm not the type to try to sell something it or even really mention anything to others so I don't want to toss it. I got a steal on it from my bro how makes it along with the test. Got enough to run two cycles for less than I would have paid for 20CC's typically. The guy who turned me on to my guys has lab connections and has ran the lab work on this stuff, it's legit and always on point. Needless to say, I want to give the tren a chance again but I will defiantly run armidex and caber (pills, I got them now) from the start! I wasn't running caber or arminidex, letro when I started this cycle and I should have from the start. As I started earlier in my posts the reason I did not is my when I ran blood work before I started my estrogen was low so I thought I would be ok for 4-6 weeks.

 

[stevesmi]

Thanks so much for the quick feedback on the blood work. MUCH APPRECIATED!!!!

I started HCG at 250IU twice a week four days ago and just took my second injection.
should of started hcg sooner, but its too late.. your LH is at 0 meaning your body is totally shutdown.

Do you think I should throw HCGenerate on top of the HCG?.
yes that is a great idea.

I was taking tribulis once a week (every monday at 8,000mg a day) hoping that would keep my natural test going but I guess not.

Now on my PCT.
I was planing on using
-Nolva starting a week after my last injection of test. <i prefer a low dose of clomid over nolva.
-Tribulus at 8,000mg a day
-Caber .05 EOD not necessary, only take the caber while you are taking the tren. that should do it as illustrated in your bloods
-B6 200mgX3 times
-HCG for the first two weeks run a higher dose of hcg while your test esters are clearing then run your SERM.
-Foma-Stan ten pumps a day for six weeks follow the instructions on the bottle for pct.


Should I add Parmi? Any advice on anything else I should add in here?

NO, prami and caber do the same thing, you don't need two of them. add UNLEASHED and post cycle.

On the creatine, I have been on creatine for the past six months or so. Should I just come off the creatine?

yeah and this is why your creatinine and BUN levels are high as I said above without even knowing you took creatine!!! it helps when I have done dozens of bloods on myself and studied them. no you don't have to go off creatine, but keep in mind it will continue to manipulate your levels which is not a big deal IMHO based on the research i have read. and since creatine has a long half life don't think just cause you stop it then do bloods a month later it still won't show up

As far as not running tren again, I have about 50CC's of top of the line 125 tren ace. I'm not the type to try to sell something it or even really mention anything to others so I don't want to toss it. I got a steal on it from my bro how makes it along with the test. Got enough to run two cycles for less than I would have paid for 20CC's typically. The guy who turned me on to my guys has lab connections and has ran the lab work on this stuff, it's legit and always on point. Needless to say, I want to give the tren a chance again but I will defiantly run armidex and caber (pills, I got them now) from the start! I wasn't running caber or arminidex, letro when I started this cycle and I should have from the start. As I started earlier in my posts the reason I did not is my when I ran blood work before I started my estrogen was low so I thought I would be ok for 4-6 weeks. okay but you need to run caber from the start next time, don't play with fire and wait.. you always have to cover all bases especially with tren or deca

in bold

 

[NorCal1]

Once again, I can't say enough for the expert level feedback you can get on this site. Thanks again! I'm going to start the tren and run it for four weeks along side my test prop (gonna thro some masteron in there too 100eod). I'll run the test (and mast) one week after I stop the tren though. I'll update this post if any signs come back or with my findings post cycle if I don't have any problems. Will jump on HCGenerate next week (have to order).

Any advice on how much hcg though I should be running bow though? I'm doing 250iuE3D now. Also, how much would you run during pct and how far I to pct. At this point I'll have 5 weeks left on test p for a 13 weeks.

 

[Judo Tom]

i never take nolva after a tren or deca cycle and i think in your case its even more of a concern.

id start caber and run it for 1 week before you add tren back into your system just to be safe.. but thats me.. and to be honest Steve does know more about this tren/deca stuff then i do..

 

[stevesmi]

Once again, I can't say enough for the expert level feedback you can get on this site. Thanks again! I'm going to start the tren and run it for four weeks along side my test prop (gonna thro some masteron in there too 100eod). I'll run the test (and mast) one week after I stop the tren though. I'll update this post if any signs come back or with my findings post cycle if I don't have any problems. Will jump on HCGenerate next week (have to order).

Any advice on how much hcg though I should be running bow though? I'm doing 250iuE3D now. Also, how much would you run during pct and how far I to pct. At this point I'll have 5 weeks left on test p for a 13 weeks.

read the link in my sig.. thats why i put it in there!

also don't run tren longer than 6 weeks.. this will assure you recover from it fine.. any longer and you are gambling