Newbies using 1000mg of testosterone a week?

[solidspine]

I mean their first time with testosterone, not anabolics in general.

Would recommend something else for a first cycle?

 

[pitbullrocco]

receptor downregulation what?

more like receptor annihilation.

 

[mr.nitrofish]

I can't belive this thread dates back to 2001

 

[thegoodfoods]

here are my stats at the start of my first cycle, which was 3 days ago...

Age: 18
Weight: 231
16% bf

My goal(s) is to get as muscular as possible. i don't want to gain a lot of bf, but i wouldnt mind some if it gets me goin to my goal. i injected 250mg/test enanthate three days ago. i want to gain some noticeable, quality muscle so that i'll keep most of it. So what do you guys think of a newbie just starting out on 250mg of test/week. think they'll (I'll) make any good gains?

 

[r1ck]

here are my stats at the start of my first cycle, which was 3 days ago...

Age: 18
Weight: 231
16% bf

My goal(s) is to get as muscular as possible. i don't want to gain a lot of bf, but i wouldnt mind some if it gets me goin to my goal. i injected 250mg/test enanthate three days ago. i want to gain some noticeable, quality muscle so that i'll keep most of it. So what do you guys think of a newbie just starting out on 250mg of test/week. think they'll (I'll) make any good gains?

200mg test-e twice a week

 

[Quadsweep]

I would use the smallest amount it took to make me grow so I wouln't experience receptor downgrade. If newbies ran this amount right off the bat, what are they going to do years from now. Run a bottle a day.

That is what i have always said...actually probably said this in post somewhere as this post is like years old. I never went over 500mg P/W for 5 years and no PCT.

Quad

 

[markshark]

Hypothetical question here fellas. What is your opinion on someone using 1000mg (or more) of testosterone a week for their first time. By the first time, I mean their first time with testosterone, not anabolics in general.

i wonder about this. ive heard of newbies taking doses of 500mg of test and 400mg of deca in their first cycle..and both compounds aromatize, so i wonder.

 

[drols of steel]

Nope, I think its a waste at that dose...They can get the same results with 1/2 that Amt.

 

[BountyHunter700]

I see too much on this board about if you start with 600mg then you must goto 800mg to grow on the next cycle due to receptor saturation bla bla....To date there is no proof that this is true....and there never will be

Your body continuosly produce new receptors....yes once you hit your genetic peak, you will need a larger amount to continue, but it has nothing to due with receptor saturation.....

The only problem I have with a newbie starting with 1000mg is the fact that once the sides kick in, he will not know how to handle them due to lack of experience...Also, he may be wasting money being that he may have gotten just as much results with 600mg other than that, it's his choice!!

Now, run to the bar and tell your buddy that you can have just as much fun with 2 beers as you can with 5!!!

 

[medical]

I see too much on this board about if you start with 600mg then you must goto 800mg to grow on the next cycle due to receptor saturation bla bla....To date there is no proof that this is true....and there never will be

Your body continuosly produce new receptors....yes once you hit your genetic peak, you will need a larger amount to continue, but it has nothing to due with receptor saturation.....

The only problem I have with a newbie starting with 1000mg is the fact that once the sides kick in, he will not know how to handle them due to lack of experience...Also, he may be wasting money being that he may have gotten just as much results with 600mg other than that, it's his choice!!

Now, run to the bar and tell your buddy that you can have just as much fun with 2 beers as you can with 5!!!

I agree the whole "receptor" thing is BS.....what happens is that gains become more difficult and most aren't willing to up the intensity of their workouts and the level of their diet, plus if you started at 200# and you now weigh 250 then you need 25% more juice to have the same levels per lb of body mass. I know some disagree with this but it is true....the bigger (lean) you are the more you will need to make the same progress with the same (relative: calories to mass) diet and workout.