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Newbie to PH's needs guidance with One+

Madd Hatter

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Yeah, I know PH's suck, but I couldn't find a source, so I had to go with this. Please don't remind me I wasted my cash and my balls will fall off w/o any muscle gain.

I'm 6'2" 215lbs (hopefully be down a few lbs before cycle in April), a lot of fat, but I do not care about how much fat I have during this as long as I pack on muscle.

I bought 2 bottles each of One+ and 6OXO. Since I've never done PH's before, I was thinking about 7-8 sprays 2x a day, is this enough? I don't have enough for two complete cycles at normal length, so would it be ok to just go until both bottles are out (about 8 weeks I'd guess)? Or two smaller cycles?

Where's the best place to apply it? Chest, forearms, shoulders? Is it better to spread it out some? Do I just spray and rub in with my hands?

I usually workout 60-90 minutes after waking up. Should I wait until my post-workout shower to apply it or do I want it on pre-workout?

When do I want to start taking the 6OXO and for how long? I have 120 caps, and was just gonna take til it was gone. X pills at dinner, right? What should X equal?

I hear a lot of people undereat, and Avant suggests eating 20-25xbw in calories for maximum benefits. That's gonna be pretty damn hard for me. Is it ok if it comes in the form of whole milk, peanuts, and N-Large or do I want to make it healthier than this? Or does it not matter that much, the cals are so important? Because if I ate a frozen pizza every day I could probably meet calories. Mmmmm….pizza.

Do I want/need to be taking creatine on my cycle (Loading for a few days, then taking until I start the 6OXO). I'm not convinced I'm a responder to creatine, but I ordered some more anyway, because I want to do everything possible to maximize benefits.

What kind of routine do I want to be doing? Recently I’ve been doing HST, but don’t think I want to keep that up. Traditional HIT 3 day split? 5 days a week? More? In the past I’ve tried everything, and I don’t have a clear preference towards anything. I know that I rarely get sore, and often feel like I can do more routine than I’m doing. And Avant says less than 7 hours a week in the gym would be undertraining for most people. But of course I don’t want to overtrain.

Is cardio a big no-no on cycle? I did say I don't care about fat levels, but I don't want to have to buy balloon seat pants.

Are there any added concerns in smoking? I've pretty much given up drinking, but smoke one cigarette a day and smoke weed on the weekends.

If I like my results, what should I go to next now that One+ is no more? How long should I stay “off”? Will I wither back down if I don't keep cycling?
 
Well first off, you didnt waste your money, thats a very good 1-Test product and WILL yield satisfactory gains, good choice. I would apply 6 squirts a day to begin with, then up it if you're not happy with the results. If you're bulking, avoid long and intense cardio. I like to apply transdermals where there are a lot of veins (top of the feet, back of knees, side of the lats, etc.) Make sure the area is clean and clean shaven for better absorbtion. I would do a 4week on, 4 week off, 4 back on cycle, that has been the favorite of most of the members of my board (we specialize in homebrewed PHs, especially 1-Test) You want to rub the ONE in until it is gone. Done be afraid to rub hard, get the area warm.

As for a routine, I like GVT while on heavy PHs or AAS, I see the most gains from it, but only a suggestion. As for 6-oxo Im not sure of the dosages, but I will get back to you. As for caloric intake, try for around 250 cals over your Basal Metabolic Rate a day. If you need any further help, you can PM me for the BMR formula if you wish. Best of luck.
 
Thanks for the reply. If I have enough 6OXO to get me thru two cycles, I'll split it up.

Only 250 cals over BMR? Wow, I figured it'd be more than that.

Edit: I did my own damn research, and GVT (2000?) is interesting to me. Can't decided between that or Needsize's 5x5. With either routine, I was thinking about working out 6 days a week on cycle. Is that about right or still too much?
 
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