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enock; thnx for giving me the numbers, I like comparing myself to other lifters my age.
hey, when you squat, do ya just lift the weight over your head and place it behind your neck, or do you use a machine? 'cause I always lift it over my head and 245 seems a lot (at least to me!) to lift over ya head. and I agree with you about parallel
you say your bis and tris suck? well, maybe I could help ya with the bis, cause I always think of that as my strong point, although my tris arent that great, either.
so what exercises do you do to work your bis?
shoulders I use the 50s too (where I come from we do the math in kgs, but I think I'm right about this), and my neck hurts like a mofo sometimes when I don't use back support while doing military presses!
o yeah and, over what time period did you gain those 10 lbs? just wonderin?
6(Sic)6;
if u can do more than 8 reps, 4 sets then you simply up the weight!
hey, when you squat, do ya just lift the weight over your head and place it behind your neck, or do you use a machine? 'cause I always lift it over my head and 245 seems a lot (at least to me!) to lift over ya head. and I agree with you about parallel
you say your bis and tris suck? well, maybe I could help ya with the bis, cause I always think of that as my strong point, although my tris arent that great, either.
so what exercises do you do to work your bis?
shoulders I use the 50s too (where I come from we do the math in kgs, but I think I'm right about this), and my neck hurts like a mofo sometimes when I don't use back support while doing military presses!
o yeah and, over what time period did you gain those 10 lbs? just wonderin?
6(Sic)6;
if u can do more than 8 reps, 4 sets then you simply up the weight!
Sic, Thnx man
Dannyb,
Theres a squat rack that has 2 catch bars that you position to just below your shoulder height so that you can place a bar across the, and load the weight up and then position your self under it so you lift it w/ you back and then you back out. When you done you just walk back in and place it back on the bars.
I'm not really sure how long its been for the added 10Ibs, Some of its water my water weight fluctuates like crazy. I've actually started to cut again, I had set a goal w/ my self that I would bulk to 180 then cut (even if I didn't need to) untill I start to lose strength. I don't think its going to take very long for that to happen since I didn't put much fat on during the bulk. I'm gonna update my pic as soon as I'm done, that way I can see the true net muscle gain and BF% change.
I do bis after back, I usually start w/ standing dumbbell curls, I curl both up at the same time, and I tend not to curl them directly infront of me but instead put off to the sides, so I don't have to worry about back swing as much. I'm not sure if that hurts/helps or doesn't make a bit of dif.
I also found I quite like cable curls, while laying down, I don't have to focus on not swinging anything since I'm up against the ground, and I don't have to stand or balance moreself or anything so I can completely focus on just bending my arm.
Thats it, I usually do a few sets of each and I'm spent after all the back work they are usually a pretty spent.
Tris, I do after some of the major chest movements then I switch between chest work and tri work. I do rope pull downs and laying skull crushers w/ an EZcurl bar.
Thats it I hate working them I guess, so I don't have much variety for them, these were the excersices I found most bearable.
Dannyb,
Theres a squat rack that has 2 catch bars that you position to just below your shoulder height so that you can place a bar across the, and load the weight up and then position your self under it so you lift it w/ you back and then you back out. When you done you just walk back in and place it back on the bars.
I'm not really sure how long its been for the added 10Ibs, Some of its water my water weight fluctuates like crazy. I've actually started to cut again, I had set a goal w/ my self that I would bulk to 180 then cut (even if I didn't need to) untill I start to lose strength. I don't think its going to take very long for that to happen since I didn't put much fat on during the bulk. I'm gonna update my pic as soon as I'm done, that way I can see the true net muscle gain and BF% change.
I do bis after back, I usually start w/ standing dumbbell curls, I curl both up at the same time, and I tend not to curl them directly infront of me but instead put off to the sides, so I don't have to worry about back swing as much. I'm not sure if that hurts/helps or doesn't make a bit of dif.
I also found I quite like cable curls, while laying down, I don't have to focus on not swinging anything since I'm up against the ground, and I don't have to stand or balance moreself or anything so I can completely focus on just bending my arm.
Thats it, I usually do a few sets of each and I'm spent after all the back work they are usually a pretty spent.
Tris, I do after some of the major chest movements then I switch between chest work and tri work. I do rope pull downs and laying skull crushers w/ an EZcurl bar.
Thats it I hate working them I guess, so I don't have much variety for them, these were the excersices I found most bearable.
oh so you use a squat rack!! hehe that clears it all up! at my gym they don't have one, the lazy bums! but I have seen one before, it's just that I used to train at home for years so I never went to any gym for a looooooooooong time.
are you gonna cut at this stage already? hmmm, that's interesting.....or was your goal not specifically bulking?
now, I'll try ta help you with your bis:
the routine I used when I first started out seriously was(keep in mind that I also trained my back and bis on the same day);
standing barbell curls
hammer curls
concentration curls
now, when you said that your bis suck, didya mean size, definition or.........?
anywayz, these exercises REALLY worked for me, added a couple inches in NO time flat.
now, you said your bis are spent when you do all your back exercises? well the logical thing for me to say would be to cut down on those back exercises so you have more energy to work your bis, but if you hate doing bis then you probably wont listen to me anywayz!
but I always think it's important to be balanced, that's why I always try to improve my muscle groups that lag behind. well, that's my two cents!
are you gonna cut at this stage already? hmmm, that's interesting.....or was your goal not specifically bulking?
now, I'll try ta help you with your bis:
the routine I used when I first started out seriously was(keep in mind that I also trained my back and bis on the same day);
standing barbell curls
hammer curls
concentration curls
now, when you said that your bis suck, didya mean size, definition or.........?
anywayz, these exercises REALLY worked for me, added a couple inches in NO time flat.
now, you said your bis are spent when you do all your back exercises? well the logical thing for me to say would be to cut down on those back exercises so you have more energy to work your bis, but if you hate doing bis then you probably wont listen to me anywayz!
but I always think it's important to be balanced, that's why I always try to improve my muscle groups that lag behind. well, that's my two cents!
absolute hardgainer
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DannyBoy: At 182lb and 6% BF you sound like you are doing very well. My advice is, if your gym has the audacity and nerve to remove the bench (or the squat rack, or deadlift platforms) then you should draw the consequences and leave for a gym that caters to your needs. I am pretty ticked off at gyms who cater only to 'health and fitness' members and leave weight trainers behind.
McBain: 'static hold' is a self-explanatory term. You hold a weight at a constant 'static' position, neither in the concentric or eccentric phase but at the top of the lift. It can be used to increase strength, much like doing negatives at the end of a set, it's benefits for bodybuilding have been debated, but not conclusively analysed to my knowledge.
hardgainer (pump)
McBain: 'static hold' is a self-explanatory term. You hold a weight at a constant 'static' position, neither in the concentric or eccentric phase but at the top of the lift. It can be used to increase strength, much like doing negatives at the end of a set, it's benefits for bodybuilding have been debated, but not conclusively analysed to my knowledge.
hardgainer (pump)
thnx hardgainer ! yeah I guess you're right about the gym an' all, I know exactly what you mean by "health and fitness members" and all. it's really quite sad, the max weight of the peck deck machine is about 180 lbs, which I find a piece of cake! but the subscription was for a year, it seemed like a nice gym in the beginning (and it was) but they removed all kinds of things, even 70 lbs db's because they were "too heavy for most people there" argghh.... well, guessa I'll be looking for a gym sometime soon!
! yeah I guess you're right about the gym an' all, I know exactly what you mean by "health and fitness members" and all. it's really quite sad, the max weight of the peck deck machine is about 180 lbs, which I find a piece of cake! but the subscription was for a year, it seemed like a nice gym in the beginning (and it was) but they removed all kinds of things, even 70 lbs db's because they were "too heavy for most people there" argghh.... well, guessa I'll be looking for a gym sometime soon!
