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we5happy

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Hey there,

I am new to all of this stuff...and my boyfriend is a health nut who is at the gym 2 hours a day...

I am 5' 2.25" and weigh 185 lbs. I am in desperate need of help. I can follow any diet that is outlined with specific foods...but my workout time is limited...I have 3 kids and have an extremely busy lifestyle. Seems like there is never enough time in the day to fit in a workout that is longer than 30-45 mins. I also have added Hydroxycut to my previous routines and am now looking into Xenadrine for the extra kick in the ass it may give me.

My goal is to loose about 45 lbs then work on toning etc, but I have no idea where to start. It seems everywhere I go for help I have to fork out a fortune that I just dont have and everyone seems to give different advice. So I just dont know who to listen to...my boyfriend tries to help but only knows guy stuff...Bulking up...etc. He recommended this site.

I am extremely serious about this and desperately need an expert opinion. Please help!

We5Happy :confused:
 
Welcome to Elite! :D The advice won't cost you anything (you just have to deal with the pop up ads!) & you normally won't hear much conflicting advice on the woman's board (Can't speak for the other boards).

First off - as for diet - think CLEAN! Forget processed foods, such as cereal in a box, bread, instant oatmeal, white rice - definitely toss out sweets. Close to nature as possible. Here's a link to my diet:
http://boards.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=122134&highlight=critique+my+diet

As for workouts - you can do a lot with 30 min, so long as you lift HEAVY! In that time crunch, I recommend circuit training. It's not ideal for strength gains, but you WILL gain strength (you gain a lot the first few months when you begin anyway) & it can also be cardio if you work non-stop (no rest between strength sets). www.muscleandfitnesshers.com has some great circuit weight training routines.

Your man can help you with form for weight lifting - b/c it's all about form.
 
"Hey there,

I am new to all of this stuff...and my boyfriend is a health nut who is at the gym 2 hours a day...

There is really no reason why anyone should be at the gym for 2 hours every day

I am 5' 2.25" and weigh 185 lbs. I am in desperate need of help. I can follow any diet that is outlined with specific foods...but my workout time is limited...I have 3 kids and have an extremely busy lifestyle.

You dont need to start out with some incredibly complicated diet. Just eat clean and varied and write down what you eat, the same every day. then make changes according to what changes in your body. Be sure to supplement with some vitamins as you eat the same daily

Seems like there is never enough time in the day to fit in a workout that is longer than 30-45 mins. I also have added Hydroxycut to my previous routines and am now looking into Xenadrine for the extra kick in the ass it may give me.

you can kick some serious ass in 30-45 minutes if you know how. get a lil educated on lifting specially form and volume etc.
The thermogenics you take help, but they may not be very relevant if your diet and training is not yet in good order.

My goal is to loose about 45 lbs then work on toning etc, but I have no idea where to start. It seems everywhere I go for help I have to fork out a fortune that I just dont have and everyone seems to give different advice. So I just dont know who to listen to...my boyfriend tries to help but only knows guy stuff...Bulking up...etc. He recommended this site.

Tone is another word for muscular definition, and one which you may want to avoid using amongst people who are serious about training. losing fat will directly result in more muscular definition hence you prevent losing any muscle as well

I am extremely serious about this and desperately need an expert opinion. Please help! "

Elite is good. good luck
 
Thanks for the warm welcome!

Thank you for responding...I really want to see results fast and worry about the toning later...

What kind of exercise will show weight loss results the fastest? Cardio is what I hear mostly... Is your diet for weight loss? or muscle building...like I said I am totally new to all of this. Any advice for specific excercises or a particular diet? What is circuit training? I feel like a nob but I really have no idea where to start. I just get frustrated....:bawling:

Thanks!
 
HI! Good for you--deciding your direction is half the battle.

Building muscle helps you burn fat. The more muscle you have, the faster your body will work. YOu'll lose fat as you build msucle and while the scales might not show any change, your jeans will.

I have a very low thyroid and after years of being thin, one day I woke up pudgy! I swear it happened overnight, but I guess it had been building for quite a while.

SO, if it took you a while and three kids to get to where you are now, it will take you a while to reach your goal. I'm not saying that to discourage you, but many people fall off the work-out wagon because they don't see results fast enough and that makes them feel terrible and then they give up..

I use an on site called FitDay (Sorry, I don;'t have the link on this computer, but it's www.FitDay.com) which helps me keep track of my calories, carbs, fats., etc. I found that at the beginning, I wan't eating enough!

Do a search on this board or just scroll thru the past posts and you'll find a wealth of info and motivation.
 
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we5happy said:
Sorry about the misuse of the word "toning" I am new so please excuse me... my vocabulary is limited...:worried:
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I wouldn't worry about it :). I'm sure that everybody understood what you meant.
 
Re: Thanks for the warm welcome!

we5happy said:
What kind of exercise will show weight loss results the fastest? Cardio is what I hear mostly... Is your diet for weight loss? or muscle building...like I said I am totally new to all of this. Any advice for specific excercises or a particular diet? What is circuit training? I feel like a nob but I really have no idea where to start. I just get frustrated
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This site has GREAT info for women who are new to weight lifting: www.stumptuous.com/weights.html It includes sample workouts for beginners and intermediates.
 
You said you want to work on "toning" later - does that mean you plan on doing just cardio now and no weights? If that is so, please reconsider! I know that starting an exercise program AND eating better seems so overwhelming that you want to just focus on one thing at a time, but lifting weights is really important to losing weight/fat. Muscles burns more calories than fat (even at rest!) and takes up less space (so your clothes get looser!). Building some muscle will help you reach your goals quicker. Cardio is likely to be your focus right now, but don't totally rule out lifting from the beginning. Others have given you good links to workout pages. M&F Hers (and Oxygen) usually have good weight wrokouts that do the totaly body in 30 minutes or so. Good, quick, easy to do/understand workouts.

And yes, no matter where you go for information, there will ALWAYS be conflicting advice. What works for one doesn't always work for another. That's what can be both exciting and frustrating about working out (at least to me) - it's all trial and error. When you find a workout plan you think sounds good, try it for awhile and see what does/doesn't work. Every time you figure out what works/doesn't work for you is a step forward. That's why I think it is so good you are asking for advice in the beginnning - the more information the better!

Good Luck! You've got a great resource here - everyone here is super helpful and very knowledgeable...it's awesome.
 
Thanks guys!

I really appreciate all of your help...and yes DaisyGirl I am asking for advice in the beginning so that I will have as much information as possible...

I was ruling out lifting because I guess I was under the impression you had to go to a gym and that I was going to end up looking gross...sorry...no offence...I didnt realize the importance of it all. I know now that I wont look gross. I am actually excited to do it...:D

All I need now I guess is an exact beginner workout with some instruction. When someone tells me to do back and rear delt for example...really I have no idea what you mean...could you provide me with specific exercises or something? My problem area is my rear and thighs. Although I need to loose fat everywhere. Also what would be a good weight to start lifting. Does it just depend on what you can do?

I am checking into a nutritionist's diet...I started this last thursday so hopefully this plus the excercise will show some results. I am so excited!

Thanks again for all your help and advice...keep it coming...knowledge is power!:D
 
You can look at websites for exericse examples and we can describe them, but I'd really get a trainer for at least a few sessions so your form is okay, since you are totally new at it.

Here's one directory, there's tons more out there.

http://www.exrx.net/Lists/Directory.html

You can also search the muscle and fitness and muscle and fitness hers archives for exercise examples. They have a snippit each month that concentrates on the form of a particular exercise.

Also please ignore the scale! As a beginner you're going to be dealing with adding muscle weight, dropping fat weight and the always fun shifting water weight. Please don't let scale numbers discourage you. Take a picture, remember how certain pairs of pants fit.
 
Re: Thanks guys!

we5happy said:
All I need now I guess is an exact beginner workout with some instruction. When someone tells me to do back and rear delt for example...really I have no idea what you mean...could you provide me with specific exercises or something? My problem area is my rear and thighs. Although I need to loose fat everywhere. Also what would be a good weight to start lifting. Does it just depend on what you can do?
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You REALLY need to go to that site that I recommended. The page with sample workouts links to different workouts and pics of each exercise. Storing fat on your rear and thighs has no bearing on what kind of lifts you should do. There's no such thing as "spot reducing." For example, doing crunches won't flatten your abs.

The general rule is that the weight you should use to start lifting is a weight that feels difficult at 8 reps or so. You won't know until you try. The weight will be different per exercise because muscles vary in size and strength. Get your boyfriend to help you with this.
 
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we5happy said:
I was ruling out lifting because I guess I was under the impression you had to go to a gym and that I was going to end up looking gross...sorry...no offence...
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No offense taken - just my sympathies. You believed what almost every women believes (including myself in the past) till she learns what I call, "THE TRUTH"!!!! Lifting hevy & eating clean equals hard & ripped body. Period, end of story.

Actually, I vastly prefer free weights to machinery anyway - you don't need to go to the gym. Get yourself an adjustable bench (incline or flat), barbells, (short ones for 'dumbells' & a long barbell) & some weight plates & you are SET! www.muscleandfitnesshers.com is good for info too.

In order to get "Huge" as in, gain an amount of muscle so significant as to turn heads (without AS - Anabolic Steriods - I mean), you must:
1. LIFT, not only lift, lift intensely, lift regularly, & lift for a period of time (NO ONE gets huge overnight).
2. Eat enough calories & enough protein to support gaining the muscle mass.
3. HAVE THE GENETICS FOR IT!!!

Many people can do #1 & #2 & still not see significant hypertrophy (muscle growth) - witness plenty of ladies complaining they can't get a 'peak' on their bicep. Without the genetics you'll just get hard as anything & ripped with a nice shape. Even with the genetics you won't get huge (I'm a 'mesomorph' - a body type that builds muscle fairly easily & I'm still no monster).

So do cardio in moderation, lift HEAVY - use your man to spot you (while you learn your strength) & help you with form. Do not underestimate your strength - if you reach rep #10 in a set & could do a few more - INCREASE WEIGHT! Think CLEAN CLEAN CLEAN on diet & do NOT starve yourself (that will totally stall any gains). Eat veggies till you feel you'll burst & allow generous portions of lean protein as well (chicken, fish). If you're new to clean eating, you will be amazed how much food a CLEAN 2,000 calories is - you shouldn't feel hungry. You'll see changes quickly - trust us! ;)

p.s. TONE is a NOUN - it is the condition of visible muscle on a body. It is NOT A VERB! There is NO SUCH THING as a TONING Workout - workouts are strength training, muscular endurance training (not your best route to a hard, lean body) & cardio.
 
Fantastik Information

You all have been extremely helpful! Thank you so much!:D

When I came home from work yesterday I looked over every site that all of you had in your messages and was amazed at the resoursed available to those who ask for help. The directory that Pink Space Biscuit pointed out was great. It even showed a little clip of someone executing each excercise. That was great!

I have recommended this site to all of my friends and hope they have as much luck as I do. I am going to keep using it and I hope you all keep the information coming. If you have it to give then I want to hear it. Also the modivation factor of the site is awsome.

Thank you all so much!

L
 
Gladiola says...

"Without the genetics you'll just get hard as anything & ripped with a nice shape. Even with the genetics you won't get huge (I'm a 'mesomorph' - a body type that builds muscle fairly easily & I'm still no monster)."

Gladiola and everyone else, I am NOT trying to be difficult. I swear to God. But I want to tell this newbie that I DID get "huge"--a regular woman's definition of "huge," which was that I gained two inches on my hips, abs, and thighs WITH A BODYFAT PERCENTAGE OF 15.3 PERCENT.

My measurements went from 34-26-34 to 36 (chest development) 27.5 (squats bulk up your waist) 36. Also, my thighs went from 20 to 22.

Now, perhaps a BB or powerlifter wants these measurements. I'm not arguing; more power to y'all. But I didn't want that at all. And everyone kept assuring me that I'd end up looking faboo. Well, if you want your measurements to go UP, great. I was upset.

I, too, recommend lifting--it's great for your body. But I wouldn't lift extremely heavy unless you're an ectomorph. If you're a mesomorph, like me, proceed with extreme caution.

My two cents. But yeah, it happened to me. Good luck to you, whatever you decide.

Evil
 
evilqueen said:
Gladiola says...

"Without the genetics you'll just get hard as anything & ripped with a nice shape. Even with the genetics you won't get huge (I'm a 'mesomorph' - a body type that builds muscle fairly easily & I'm still no monster)."

Gladiola and everyone else, I am NOT trying to be difficult. I swear to God. But I want to tell this newbie that I DID get "huge"--a regular woman's definition of "huge," which was that I gained two inches on my hips, abs, and thighs WITH A BODYFAT PERCENTAGE OF 15.3 PERCENT.

My measurements went from 34-26-34 to 36 (chest development) 27.5 (squats bulk up your waist) 36. Also, my thighs went from 20 to 22.

Now, perhaps a BB or powerlifter wants these measurements. I'm not arguing; more power to y'all. But I didn't want that at all. And everyone kept assuring me that I'd end up looking faboo. Well, if you want your measurements to go UP, great. I was upset.

I, too, recommend lifting--it's great for your body. But I wouldn't lift extremely heavy unless you're an ectomorph. If you're a mesomorph, like me, proceed with extreme caution.

My two cents. But yeah, it happened to me. Good luck to you, whatever you decide.

Evil
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If this happened overnight and did not take you more than a year to accomplish then I think you are lying or something is wrong with you physically, like a Thyroid problem or something making you bigger.
 
evilqueen said:
Gladiola and everyone else, I am NOT trying to be difficult. I swear to God. But I want to tell this newbie that I DID get "huge"--a regular woman's definition of "huge,"
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Well, I never said women CAN NOT get huge. I said in order to get huge, you must do #1, #2, & #3.

If you're not a mesomorph, you can do #1&2 to your heart's content & rest assured that you won't get huge.

If you ARE a mesomorph, you still have to do #1&2 to get huge. I have seen lots of women lift & lifted with women. VERY few lift intensely. VERY few. & so many are already afraid of getting huge that they will not put forth effort in their lifting. Even those WANTING to work hard don't often really push themselves. Heck, Arioch works with serious athletes & he'll tell you any day of the whining he hears & sometimes lack of motivation. The last thing a newbie needs is ANOTHER excuse not to work hard.

Also very few are careful with diet. Even fewer manage to keep up the diet & training more than a couple months. (I'm sure we can round up some stats on that.)

I also highly doubt that muscle will pop up so quickly as to SURPRISE you. How many women do you know who DON'T spend time analyzing the shape & size of their bodies?! I can't fathom a women not noticing if she's growing (particulary if she's already afraid of it!).

Besides - even if someone gains more muscle than they want - stop lifting & POOF - ATROPHY! It's far from permanent.

So to wrap up here - scientifically, I agree. BUT - being that I deal frequently with the general public in a fitness setting (i.e. NOT PLers, BBers or serious athlets) as I'm an aerobics instructor - I have my reasons for stating what I do.
 
No thyroid problem.

I track what I eat on fitday--40/30/30.

Cut back on weights. Not lifting the pink dumbbells--I'm not the type--but no more squats.

I would not lie, CaptainMouse. I have no reason to lie. I don't know why you guys can't honor what I'm saying. I'm not saying YOU'RE lying. I'm just saying that this is my experience, I write regularly about health and fitness, and I'm not just some schlub off the street. And I think this newbie deserves to hear the other side, because no one told it to me. Not just you guys--the people at my gym, too.

And spats, I'm not sure what you think you are accomplishing by reposting my threads. I remember them well. They start out with me being reasonably happy and become increasingly distressed because of my Depo issue. Why would you voluntarily point out someone else's pain? Is it that you are trying to insinuate that I'm unbalanced? In those posts, I consistently state my bodyfat is 15 percent. I just got it measured May 4, far after all my complaints about getting "big." So if it ain't fat, it must be muscle.

By the way: I'd advise you, spats, to use your considerable intellect trying to understand the Depo issue. More and more women are taking this stuff, and it's about to come to the fore as a major issue in feminist health politics. I think you'd find the politics--and the physiology--fascinating.

It's amazing...saying anything that deviates from the gospel, and you're a pariah. Oh well. I'd rather be a pariah than misinform someone else that way I was misinformed.
 
Also for a woman to get big (or a man for that matter - just look at all those 'hard gainers' out there on the male board!) you need #4 - Excess amounts off drugs!

I eat like a horse - I do put weight on. I squat like a power lifter and look great. I also take test - I am still not huge. My diet is pretty groggy at the moment, I'm going through some distressing personal stuff at the moment and have just spent the last 6 weeks eating bowl after bowl of muesli and drinking 6 pints of strong cider every day. Now I have just managed to hang onto the gains I have made over the last 12 months by doing the bare minimum training. I am still no huge - OK so I have developed a rather noticeable 'beer' belly, this by the way is where fat goes on primarily for me. But I am still not 'huge'. I believe the muscle mass I have built up over the last few years has helped keep me looking firm and helped burn at least some of the excess kcals off.

Now I am looking to move forward, start serious cardio, get the diet sorted and lift even heavier than before. The fat will come off and I will get back to where I was before and probably even better for the rest.

What I am saying is lifting and building muscle is good - it gives you a foundation from which to build a good healthy body and once you have got it, you never lose it. BUT it takes time - quick fixes i.e. trying to lose lots of weight at once, backfire and leave you with metabolic legacies or rebound effects.

Guess I had better stop preaching now!
 
wow!

I thought I would give you an update...

It has been a week officially since the start of my diet...or should I say life change! I was on the scale and in a week I have lost 6.5 lbs. Just from changing my diet to include more protien and waaaaay less carbs. It has been very hard but its paying off already.

I bought the Xenadrine RFA-1 yesterday and started those today...(see my new Xenadrine vs. Hydroxycut thread) and hope these give me the extra boost I need.

I saw that there was a little tension in the previous posts and want to thank you all. I really enjoy this site and just want you to know that I want to hear all of the opinions...good and bad...I am to modivated to be discouraged at this point...but I want all of the knowledge I can. Im like a sponge, eh?

Anyway...I think I am on the right track! Although I still want to hear your feedback. Keep it coming, I love it!
 
Great job, we5!

I may not espouse the party line about lifting heavy, but I'm sqaurely in the majority when it comes to low-carb eating. Someone a few posts back suggested that you try using fitday.com to track your ratios of protein, fat and carbs. It really is a great site; I find it really helps me stay on track, dietwise.

Again, congrats on your progress!
 
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we5happy said:
It has been a week officially since the start of my diet...or should I say life change! I was on the scale and in a week I have lost 6.5 lbs. Just from changing my diet to include more protien and waaaaay less carbs. It has been very hard but its paying off already.
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Nice work. Just so you know, though, the loss will slow down within a couple of weeks. That's because carbs hold water in the body. When you drop carbs, you drop water, voila, weight loss ... but not necessarily FAT loss. Keep an eye on the mirror (in conjunction with the scale if you have to use it) and the fit of your clothes. BF measurements are better if you have access to calipers or something.

For now, though, just concentrate on intense lifting and eating clean. Don't worry too much about weight/measurements, etc.

Good luck.
 
Thanks everyone!

Like I said before...just looking on this site has given me inspiration. Everytime I come on here I check out my responses and then take a peek to see if there is any other threads will help. Everyone is so helpful that I learn something new everytime...:D

I have also said that knowledge is power and I think that is the key, because I feel like I am always eating and the weight (be it water or fat or whatever) is falling off. My friend is on this diet too and her first week she lost 6.5lbs and the second week (she's a week ahead of me) she lost 7.5lbs. A wopping 14lbs in two weeks....WOW! :) Knowing the right food to eat and the right excercise is the key combination!

The more I read the more I know...so if you have anything to add...I want your opinion.

Thanks!
We
 
Good for you! One word of caution, and not to rain on your parade--cutting way, way down on carbs will definitely make you shed pounds, and it's mainly water. That's fine and good for your spirit, but you'll need to be careful when you gradually reintroduce carbs (and you will, eventually) so that you don't have a rebound weight gain.

Personally, I split my diet into equal protions of carbs, protein, and fat--Isocaloric. I've eaten this way for years and it's much easier to maintain. When I dumped my carbs to less than 10, I had so little energy for lifting.
 
NEW UPDATE

Just thought I would share my success...Week two I lost 4.5lbs.

So altogether in two weeks I've 11lbs. I am also doing 15 mins of Cardio before breakfast in the morning and I am going to start lifting tonight.

One question for anyone....

My boyfriend says I should have (need to have) a protein shake post-workout with a bunch of carbs in it (30g or so). Like some low-fat frozen yogurt or something to spike my insulin, and that they will all get used up right away. Is this true? I really don't want to frig up my low carb diet that is working so well so far.

Thanks for all your help!

We:D
 
Say what?

spatterson said:
Absolutely get whey and dex. after a workout. Not too keene on the frozen yogurt idea though.
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Thanks. Why not the yogurt? What is dex? Can you explain why this is important? I am totally not understanding this. Sorry, really I am.
 
The yogurt, even fat free, is so high in simple sugars and high calorie. And basically nutritionally empty. Yes, your body will suck up what you put in it after a workout - but you STILL need to make smart, nutritionally dense choices. You still need food that will put you closer to your goals. Don't get sucked into the "I workout therefore I can eat whatever I want" - doesn't work that way! :(

Whey protein is absorbed very quickly and you need that to replenish your spent muscles. 'Dex' is dextrose (which technically is a sugar, I think) is a carb that will help you replenish and recover. Someone else can explain that better I am sure....

Oh, congrats on your progress so far! You're doing great!
 
THANKS!

Yeah guys I am totally psyched! I did a workout last night and I felt great. I kinda felt like a nob when my boyfriend came home...I was in the middle of Tricep kickbacks and he complimented my form...:) I didn't feel like a nob then, but my cheeks were a little rosy.

Then we went over all of my exercises for last night and what I will be doing tonight so that I would have the proper form. This is doing wonders for my body and my relationship has taken a drastic turnaround. :loveyou: lol

So where would you find this Dex stuff...would they sell that at GNC? Also is there a difference in the whey protein and Soy protein? What is the difference, and which should I use? I have Soy protein that I have been using and it is fat and carb free.

Opinions please! I'm almost there...

We
 
Have I been Forgotten Already?

Anybody here? This is the first time I have posted without a response...

So...I guess I'll just post to let you know I am still here. :) and waiting for a little more advice.

Thanks.
We
 
Hey. HAven´t read the other posts so sorry if I repeat some things.

If you currently have been leading a sedentary life just working out some 45 mins to an hour 3 days a week will do a great deal. I also have come to the conclusion that a big reason Americans are such fat asses (maybe you´re not AMerican but anyway) is the simple sugar carbs they eat so often. IF you eat them often enough you train your body to live off the energy in your stomach rather than what´s already stored away.

It´s pretty simple. After playing around with about every variable you can think of both my girlfriend and I are now at the same point in thinking that all those supplements and fancy diets are just designed to seperate you money from you wallet.

a link to some of her pics if you are interested: www.picturetrails.com/aaurelius
 
spatterson said:
My whey costs me $15 a month or so at the most. I can deal with that.
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Even if you don´t really need it? Whatever.

Hey, only 15 bucks! According to Nitro Tech your muscles MAY NOT be gettnig the protein they need due to "low quality" whey. Hours of sweat and iron pumping wasted due to counting pennies with your physique!

p.s. lovely avatar. How do you darken it like that? Mine is all washed out.
 
I'm beginning to see why a lot of you guys disagree when I say that women can "bulk."

Your definition of bulk seems to be a Ms. Olympia-type bulk--bulges everywhere--that's BIG HONKIN' MUSCLES.

My definition of bulk means that I went from looking lean to looking, well, thick.

So I apologize. I mean, "thick," not "bulky." Luckily, I seem to be deflating, but very, very slowly. Like a balloon with a slow leak.

No, I don't have any photos. But as I said on another thread, I'm thinking of posting a pic of J'Lo's ass and saying it's mine.

Who would ever know?

Except NYM, of course. :)
 
YEAH!

I totally agree with you evilqueen! I thought of posting a pic of someone else! I think it would be funny...When I first came on here I thought that people all had pics of themselves where their names were...until I saw Gladiola, lol...then I clued in. ha ha ha

When I get to my goal weight I will post before and after pics...cant wait.
 
I don't have a freakin' camera or a scanner, idgit.
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You see, this is what makes this site a nuthouse. If you´re going to give lifting advice and tell tales about bulk you need to back it up. There´s enough fakes running around here already.

You are in America, no EQ? And you don´t have any access to a scanner or camera? Non sense. Keep on making things up if you want.
 
aurelius said:


You see, this is what makes this site a nuthouse. If you´re going to give lifting advice and tell tales about bulk you need to back it up. There´s enough fakes running around here already.

You are in America, no EQ? And you don´t have any access to a scanner or camera? Non sense. Keep on making things up if you want.
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God give it the hell up. You can learn and share advice without showing a bunch of strangers, freaks and some generally nice people your picture.
 
spatterson said:
I don't think it's necessary to take a "tone" with someone for not wanting to post pics. She doesn't have to do that just because you want her too.

On the other hand, post a pic, EQ. Worked for me...shut him up pretty fast.
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You couldn´t be more wrong. If you want to talk about your experience and give advice here you need to back it up. Too many fakes around here for people like we5 to expect any real advice from people who know.

Yes, post a pic, EQ. I´m not here to "win" arguments.
 
I'm not that stupid...

aurelius said:


Too many fakes around here for people like we5 to expect any real advice from people who know.

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Man, this seems like an awful lot of bullshit! I am not worried about people's pics or if they can back up their advice. For one thing, some people don't want to show the world their bodies...these days the internet is not some place that a lot of people are comfortable enough with to do that. Some think it's not the safest thing to do...and they are probably right.

Secondly, I am not going to follow just anyone's advice...whether they post a pic or not. Who is to say the picture they post is really them anyway? I would only follow someone's advice that I get backed up myself from people that I trust here at home and at the gym, or fitness club etc. I could post any picture and say that it was me. Even Spat's advice (No offense Spats) I had my boyfriend and friends go over to see what they thought. If I were to find that to many people were not in aggreeance I would not have taken that advice. That would not be the smartest thing for anyone to do.

Anyway, enough bitching...I just found that people were taking the pic thing to far...just my opinion...and they are like assholes...everybody has one. I feel better now. :)

We
 
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we5happy said:


Man, this seems like an awful lot of bullshit! I am not worried about people's pics or if they can back up their advice. For one thing, some people don't want to show the world their bodies... Mine isn´t that great either. The point is to show you at least have some experience in the gym. these days the internet is not some place that a lot of people are comfortable enough with to do that. Some think it's not the safest thing to do...and they are probably right.

Secondly, I am not going to follow just anyone's advice...whether they post a pic or not. Who is to say the picture they post is really them anyway? I would only follow someone's advice that I get backed up myself from people that I trust here at home and at the gym, or fitness club etc. ]Then why come here? Just cut out the middle man. You obviously haven´t perused this place very throughly. There are many here who don´t know what they are talking about freely offering advice. I could post any picture and say that it was me. No, you could take a pic with you holding something like a doll or something. You don´t have to show your face either. Even Spat's advice (No offense Spats) I had my boyfriend and friends go over to see what they thought. If I were to find that to many people were not in aggreeance I would not have taken that advice. That would not be the smartest thing for anyone to do.

Anyway, enough bitching...I just found that people were taking the pic thing to far...just my opinion...and they are like assholes...everybody has one. I feel better now. :)

We [/QUOTEIn the end, if you don´t care that´s your business.
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Re: Re: I'm not that stupid...

Originally posted by aurelius Mine isn´t that great either. The point is to show you at least have some experience in the gym.
Then why come here? Just cut out the middle man. You obviously haven´t perused this place very throughly. There are many here who don´t know what they are talking about freely offering advice. No, you could take a pic with you holding something like a doll or something. You don´t have to show your face either. In the end, if you don´t care that´s your business. [/B]
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Well where do I start...? Again who is to say that the picture I post is me...what is the point of a doll...I could take a picture of a anyone holding a doll or whatever...what difference would that make. With Photo Editor I could put my face on a dolphin for Pete sakes!

And obviously I do take some people's advice if I got my split from Spatts...I said I'm not going to follow just anyone's advice...And that I like to get a second opinion...Most Doctor's know what they are doing and many patients ask for a second opinion. Here I get many opinions...I love that. I am one of the people who has no idea what I am talking about and freely offering advice. I offer what Ive heard and what has worked for me...what people do with it is completely up to them.

Anyway, just because she hasn't posted a pic doesn't mean that her advice can't be legit.

Chow!
We
 
Once again I agree with Spatts. Two people whose posts I always read are MS and W6. Their posts are generally always informative, and based on a combination of experience, education, and research. Referenced when necessary. I could care less how big either one of them are, how much they can lift, or what bodyfat they walk around at.

Although I am pretty sure I am bigger than MS.
 
Arioch said:
Although I am pretty sure I am bigger than MS.
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:FRlol: :FRlol:

We5 - that is what Arioch is getting at. That W6 and MS have proven themselves through their knowledge and not what they look like.

Just because someone "looks good" doesn't mean they can give advice - we all know that genetics is a powerful thing! We all know people that genetically will always be bigger, more muscular, less BF, etc and they know NOTHING about working out. We should listen to their advice because they can back it up with a picture?

Ain't nobody seein' no picture of me until I lose a ton more BF! :D
 
And it is not just appearance. James Henderson is a perfect example of how someone can be incredibly strong based soley on genetics. I have watched the man train on several occasions. On one occasion, he had to ask what someone was doing. They were performing dumbbell rows. The man has managed to bench 711 pounds, in a lift that deserved the three white lights it received, with no bench shirt. He also did this with no fixed program, no coach, no working knowledge of anatomy and phsiology, no boat, no life, no motor car, as clueless as can be.

And while I hope to have a bench within 211 pounds of his in the next year or so, I certainly will not be asking him for training advice.
 
I hear ya!

Not me either!

I just read my first post...and I just felt a little bit depressed because I am 175 lbs. But when I wrote my first post I was 186.5 so... (that was only 3 weeks ago) so now Im happy again. :D

Nope, no pics until I have a deadly before and after duo to show!

It's a comin' though!

We
 
Well congrats on the progress!

Sometimes it seems like you are progressing SOOOOOOO SLLOOOOOOOOWWWWWW. But you gotta keep plugging away.... results come, you just have to work hard and be patient! Sucks, huh? :fro:
 
Arioch said:
And it is not just appearance. James Henderson is a perfect example of how someone can be incredibly strong based soley on genetics. I have watched the man train on several occasions. On one occasion, he had to ask what someone was doing. They were performing dumbbell rows. The man has managed to bench 711 pounds, in a lift that deserved the three white lights it received, with no bench shirt. He also did this with no fixed program, no coach, no working knowledge of anatomy and phsiology, no boat, no life, no motor car, as clueless as can be.
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JAMES HENDERSON aka. The Shirtless Sheriff

6'4" 385...and the true definition of a genetic freak. People like him remind me of Superman...they are strong without having to work at it. Giving him all the respect in the world...I am more in impressed with a "Batman" sort of a guy...a normal guy that had to put in the work.
 
It's the same with all those people...

Guys and girls alike..You know who you are...all those ones that can eat whatever they want and never gain a ounce of fat...it all just melts away mysteriously.

I hate those people!:mad:

We (Just kidding though)
 
we5happy, I know exactly what you are talking about! I see all these skinny girls in class eating candybars everyday.

What I really hate are the slim attractive girls at the gym that just sit around and talk and flirt with the personal trainers. I hardly ever see them working out. And there I am busting my butt and it seems like I'm not getting anywhere. (well, maybe I am a little but not very quick!)
 
"My problem area is my rear and thighs. Although I need to loose fat everywhere. Also what would be a good weight to start lifting. Does it just depend on what you can do? "

ya you should lift as heavy as you can as long as you use the proper form (technique), use the number of reps your supposed to on the routine you have, and warm up before and stretch properly afterward.

you can either warm up using some cardio, doing 5-10 minutes of cardio before you start the weights, but i think most people on here prefer to warm up by simply doing the exercise they plan with a light weight they can easily handle, which is at least as effective and has the advantages that it doesn`t tire you as much and lets you practise your form again before you start.
 
Great Idea!

The whole doing the exercise with less wieght to warm up... That is good. I usually just do some deap stretches and jump right in!

That idea seems like it would feel good to.

We
 
Man I hate that...

wannabeBB said:
we5happy, I know exactly what you are talking about! I see all these skinny girls in class eating candybars everyday.

What I really hate are the slim attractive girls at the gym that just sit around and talk and flirt with the personal trainers. I hardly ever see them working out. And there I am busting my butt and it seems like I'm not getting anywhere. (well, maybe I am a little but not very quick!)
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I dont go to the gym a lot but when I do...I notice that a lot of the girls are there for some kind of fashion show and to pick up! Then they go home and eat a tub of Ice cream the bitches! :FRlol:

Don't worry our after pics will look just as good and well have the know how and be proud to say that we worked hard for it and will work hard to keep it that way...Who need ice cream anyway? :bawling:

We
 
This thread has gone off in so many directions. :lmao:

I generally read everyones posts, no matter who they are and what they are about. Although my attention span can't always handle the huge articles that scroll down for 20 pages, I give them a shot though.

Regarding the ice cream. I do cardio in our apartment complexes gym and people are always leaving muffin papers and regular coke cans in the cup holders! At least your ice cream divas wait until they get home.
 
I always used to make fun of my old PT in a stupid gym where i was at who was always drinking coca cola in the gym
 
We5--you're not stretching cold muscles, are you? I stretch afterwards, personally. I read the paper for warmup on the bike, and then jump in. I stretch like crazy afterwards, but I've got reasons, like my neck stuff.
 
Don't worry, nature catches up with the thin ice cream eaters. I was one of those annoying people in my teens and early twenties. However I am MUCH healthier, stronger and fitter now, although I am fatter too - I started exercise to help lift my depression (I am manic depressive) and although it has not stopped me gaining weight due to crappy diet I am now gaining MUSCLE due to lifting and better diet. Spent 120 mintues flexing in the mirror this morning :D .

The thin ice cream eaters can also easily get heart disease as much as the fat guys. THin does not equal healthy, especially if heart problems and strokes run in the family, which they do for many folks.... stuffing yourself with garbage is bad for you, whether it shows up on yoru gut or not. Same shit in your internal organs, whether you burn it off or not. I am having a cheat day today tho so I am stuffing myself with garbage, but I'm defrosting the chicken for the next 2 days' of meals now...

circusgirl
 
Dont I know it!

The thin ice cream eaters are skinny but I have a different goal now...I want to be muscular. I did want to just be thin...but now that I have been looking...I really didn't notice before...The thin ripped up girls look 10x better. (Plus my boyfriend digs the muscular chicks!)

My life has done a complete 360. I was one of those thin Ice cream eaters before in my teen years too...I was also a smoker, drinker, and I did a lot of other things I shouldn't have. I quit drugs 6 years ago, smoking 2 years ago and the, and the drinking a week ago. I feel better physically than I have in a long time.

Obesity runs in my family so it always seemed inevitable that I would be fat too. I now know that I'll just have to give it 110 percent and I will eventually be where I want to be. I am feeling better about myself already. I find it's like a puzzle and that I can sculpt myself to be what ever I want...so exciting.

Please explain a cheat day (In great detail :D)...I want one...

L
 
A cheat day is exactly that: a day where you cheat on your diet. You plan this to allow your metabolism a boost, give yourself a break mentally, etc. Some athletes do not seem to need one at all (witness Brickgirl's incredible accomplishment) whereas others need them regularly. The reason for planning them is so that you do not go overboard, and so that you do not feel guilting for 'cracking under pressure'.

MS has some excellent posts about this, as well as Par Deus on the diet board.
 
I couldnt have a cheat day!

If I had cheat day than I would feel like I was sabotaging myself...the guilt alone would depress me. I almost allowed myself to have a York Peppermint Pattie yesterday but...after trying on a pair of jeans I wasn't able to where a month ago and having them about 2 inches to big...I decided to skip the York. My success is giving me will power. The more success I have it seem the more will power I have too. I can totally live with that! :D

We
 
There's going to come a point when your body might cry out for a cheat day to refuel itself and to boost your metabolism. But, I wouldn't waste it on candy. Jump the carbs with some complex carbs, not simple sugars.

Also, give up guilt about eating. Food is what runs your body, and you're in control of what you eat. I think that feeling "good" and "bad" about food and eating is self-destructive. Food's not a punishment nor is it a reward.
 
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That's unfortunate. A cheat day, or refeed, is a necessary and good thing. Without it, you sabotage yourself.
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this is so very true! :)
 
You have no idea how I loved to hear that...

I just said to my boyfriend a few minutes ago that I think I may schedule in once a week a low-fat frozen yogurt on a cone...just a small one. :)

Like I said before...obesity runs in my family and my entire life has been full of watching people on diets and feeling "guilt" about food. I cant help the fact that I feel bad about it. :( I just do.

I have three kids too and I just baked them a couple dozen double chocolate chip cookies...That took a ton of will power. I almost crumbled...

We
 
A low fat frozen yogurt? You glutton. You have got to be kidding me.

Eat a friggin' pizza, fer chrissakes.

Shesh.
 
I absolutely hate cheat days. They usually mess me up. But anyway, I cant eat just one cookie....I end up ending the entire bag. That's why my husband and I cleaned out the entire kitchen yesterday and took everything (bad stuff) to the food bank. I have to have it out of here. If I take one cheat day, it turns into 3 or 4.
Then it's hard to get back on track. It's like if you are trying to stop smoking, you wouldnt allow yourself a cigarette once a week. That would cause you to go back to your ways. That's how I am. I am so all or nothing. All picture perfect diet all week or bad bingeing. I understand the concept of free days but I just cant get them to work for me. But that is just me.
I know they are good to have, but I just cant get them to work for me.
 
oops - above I meant to say I spent 10-12 minutes flexing in the mirror - not 120! Even I am not that vain!
circusgirl
 
lol circusgirl, I thought that was a long time!

Spatts- I know what you are saying. But I guess some people have a food addiction. I am okay if I dont cheat though. Cheating seems to send off some kind of trigger. I want to get over this but still havent found out how I can.
 
It does take practice! Cheat days will become necessary eventually (for most). Once you have been eating clean for weeks on end - you will feel the need for *something* not on your diet. But like they said before me, moderation is the key.

Sunday is my cheat day - basically I eat what I want, but still HAVE to make sure I get all my protein in like normal. I look for small protions of my cheat foods - a small dairy queen ice cream cone, small bag of candy, etc. NO king sized anything or I will eat the whole thing!

By the end of Sunday I am anxious for Monday so I can eat stricter again - I like the structure. Cheat *days* are also holding much less desire now - will change to a cheat *meal* soon.

Like Spatts said - you gotta take the time to eat milk and cookies with your kids! When they are grown you won't be wishing you spent more time on your diet - you'll be wishing you spent more time enjoying things like milk and cookies.... take that walk afterwards! :D
 
If sweets are a trigger, you can "cheat" with bread and butter or fresh tortillas or chips or whatever.

I can easily eat one cookie but salty and greasy set me off in a big way. So, I'll cheat with cream-based soups or hollandaise sauce or bearnaise on steak, but i don't even think about chips.
 
Yeah maybe...

I am just not ready for a cheat day yet...I just started this diet a month ago thursday...I am making tremendous progress. I am afraid that if I cheat, I wont stop cheating. I will be ready soon enough though...I cant eat like this forever...

Could someone explaing what ALA is...I heard some things about it helping people with cheat day...What is it? What does it do?

Check back soon...(I'm at work again) :D

We
 
Sorry Wannabe!

I haven't got a pm before...

Here is my diet...Although I don't know how healthy it is...

I drink a hellova lot of water (12 glasses at least) and I eat very low carb stuff.

Typical day (but not restricted to) this is just what I plan on eating today...

7am--3egg whites scrambled with fresh mushrooms and little cheddar cheese chunks (I just cant eat them white) and a little ham bit of shaved ham. (I cook this in a tsp of flax oil.) A cup of green tea with mint.

9:30 or 10am--Yogurt. (fat free w/ lowest carbs I can find as with everything I just look them all over and pick the best one.)

12:00pm--2cps salad (lettuce, tomato, and cucumber or w/ whatever no carrots) with Balsamic Vinaigrette. 2-3 oz of lean meat. Pickle (Sugar free) --or-- sometimes just a cup of soup and meat.

2:30 or 3pm--1 cup of light Jello. (Try with club soda instead of water, mmmmm)

5pm--2-3 oz of lean meat with a little bit of salsa and a bit of salad on a whole wheat pita. --Or-- sometimes I just have a salad with my meat.

7-8--I work out and have a vanilla protein shake afterward with 1tsp cocoa and a sweet n low.

9pm --(If I'm up and need something to go with my movie) 4 cups popped light popcorn. (I put vinegar on it, I'm weird I know.)

And that is it...pretty much...I don't know how healthy it is but...Oh well...It's working.

For exercise I have been doing about 15mins on the stationary bike before I eat breakfast and I do that routine that I modified from Spatts. I posted it before, not sure if its this thread or the "Newbie got weights" one, but it's there here somewhere...

I think though that I may add a small ice cream from dairy queen on Sundays...:D

What do you think?

We
 
I think you are starving yourself and eventually it's going to bite you in the ass.

For 5 hours between noon and 5pm you eat nothing! Sugar free jello is like saying, oh I had a diet coke for lunch. Just yogurt isn't too nutritionally sound either.

Cooking in flax breaks down it's good qualities, use pam for your eggs and toss the flax uncooked on your salad instead.

The only carbs I see are a whole wheat pita, and you replace that with salad sometimes?

Lettuce mix has like zero nutritional content.
 
Personally, I wouldn't worry too much about finding ultra-low fat stuff--a little fat makes you feel satisfied. Natural peanut butter is a good fat and even as little as one tablespoon goes a long way. Fish oils are a good fat, too. I eat canned tuna, packed in olive oil--the water packed stuff is just too gross for me. I probably eat more fat cals. than many other people here, but it's all good fat and it works for me.

I use Flax Seed Meal, and stir it into full-fat, active cultures plain yogurt or cottage cheese or sprinkle it on salads. Fiber and good fat all at once. That's my ALA source.

If you're counting carbs all day, you'll undo it with 4 cups of popcorn at night. When I'm cutting I don't eat carbs after 6. I use Finn Krisp or RyeVita if I'm longing for a crunchy snack.

I'll agree that you're not eating very much. Low carbing will give you an good weight loss at the beginning, but I found it to be a very difficult way to eat for the rest of my life. YMMV.
 
That's low-carbing, low-fatting and low-proteining though! Please just give a good plan a shot, the results in the long run will be so much better. You need to feed your muscle growth.
 
Oh my...I thought I was ready for that...

Oooops! My boyfriend told me to post my diet...He said you would all laugh at me and say that I was starving myself...:FRlol: though I am finding that I have trouble getting it all in during my workday. :(

He said I need more everything too...I heard somewhere on here that a low carb diet consists of less than 30 carbs...how the hell can anyone do that? :confused: My protein shake has 28 g carbs all together with the skim milk etc. yogurt has 9 gr. carbs...

I will start to eat more when I get close to where I want to be and I know a little more about how the body breaks it down etc. (Plus I still have the guilt thing goin' on) If I knew where it went I would feel better about eating it. Do you know any sites or web pages that explains about food consumption and breakdown of carbs/protein/fat, etc?

We
 
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yes low carb dieting is very hard. some go below 10 or below 5 even. Its almost impossible but for some people it works very well. most people feel like crap while on these diets tho
 
Low carb under 30!? I've done low carb under 10. And the rebound was dreadful.

You need to eat more now or else your body will get used to the tiny amount of fuel and will balk at losing more weight. The dreaded "starvation" syndrome--your body thinks you're starving and so hangs on to every spare ounce it's got. Better to lose a tich more slowly and keep it off for good.

Do a search here for different eating plans. I like Isocaloric--my total daily cals. are equally split among fats, carbs and protein.
I maintain on 14-15 cals per pound and cut on 10 to 12 cals per pound. I'm much older than other posters and I have a very underactive thyroid. I'm 5' 9". 150 and 17% BF.

Some people do better with a Zone type diet--40% carbs, 30% protein, 30% fat. Some people want even lower fat percentages and more protein, esp if they're growing more muscle mass.

If you want to get stronger so that you can burn more body fat, you need to eat to get muscles. Every calorie has to count-- you might not need to eat great quanities of food (or then again, you might) but you can up the calorie count pretty easily.

Here's a good site that may give you some more info: http://home.earthlink.net/~vinnyi/dieting/diets.htm
 
High fat diet?

Isocaloric...a high fat diet? That sounds baaaad...:) and good!

Ill be checking out more thoughougly those diet listed in the link you sent...Thanks a plenty! :D

Just wondering still if anyone can tell me what ALA is...Spatts it's been awhile since Ive heard anything from you? Any thoughts on ALA? What is it...what is it used for...What does it do?

Need...more...info...!

We
 
I would like to know what ALA is too! I think it's some sort of supplement people take before cardio to keep muscle?? anyone know?
 
Hey there Wannabe!

wannabeBB said:
I would like to know what ALA is too! I think it's some sort of supplement people take before cardio to keep muscle?? anyone know?
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I heard that it does something to mask the effects of carbs or something like that. That some people use it when they are in ketosis. I dont know though that is why Im asking. I figured someone would get back to me on it...

We
 
ALA is this stuff: it's why we all go on and on about flax, seed, oil and meal:
Flax Seed and Flax Oil

Ancient records show that the human
race has consumed flax seed since the
beginning of civilization. Over the
centuries, the growing of flax seed
has spread across Europe, Africa, and,
finally, to North America. Today, scientific findings are
confirming the nutritional benefits of flaxseed in a balanced
diet.

Flax seed is a remarkably good source of Alpha Linolenic Acid
(ALA). ALA is an essential fatty acid and is one of the essential
nutrients that is necessary for life. ALA must be obtained from
the diet - the human body is not able to manufacture it.

ALA is useful in protecting against heart diseases, improving
immune function, cancer prevention, and improving male
infertility.

As well, approximately 20% of the ALA we consume is
transformed in our bodies into two other fatty acids: EPA and
DHA (these are the same beneficial compounds found in fish
oil). The benefits of EPA and DHA include: protection from fatal
heart attack, decreased inflammation and pain in arthritis, and
protection from thrombotic disease. DHA alone is noted for its
effects on brain function, mood and behavior. DHA is one of the
building blocks for brain growth and development. Numerous
animal and human studies suggest that DHA improves learning,
vision processes, memory, and concentration.

Due to the benefits of EPA and DHA produced from ALA in the
diet, flaxseed consumption may be particularly important for
vegetarians and people who prefer not to eat fish often.

The easiest way to get the ALA you need is to supplement with
capsules of flax oil, or use bottled flax oil in salad dressings and
other cooking. However, raw flax seed (preferably milled or
ground) is another way to add ALA to the diet. Raw flax seed is
also a valuable source of soluble and insoluble dietary fiber,
which helps relieve constipation. In addition, raw flax seed is
the highest plant source of lignans, which are strong
antioxidants that could reduce the aging process, promote
bone health, help prevent cardiovascular disease, and protect
against some environmental toxins. Lignans may help reduce
the risk of certain forms of cancer, particularly cancers of the
breast and colon. For women, lignans have added benefits.
Lignans are phytoestrogens which normalize hormone levels,
which can fluctuate at any stage in a woman's life.

Now, I'm not being critical, but this board has a very good search engine. Many questions have been answered in glowing detail in past posts.
 
Thank you so much...

I do realize that there is a search thingy but I am not totally sure how to use it... Ill play with it later. As for your reply...thanks very much...I was under the impression that it was some sort of carb cutter/hider thing. I do take Flax seed oil in everyday...Is this sufficient?

Thanks again,
We
 
"200 mg taken with three meals a day for a total of 600 mg per day is the most often agreed upon amount to be effective for helping to keep carbs from turning into stored fat. 100 mg per day is just fine for the purpose of general antioxidant. The safety issue has not been clearly established insofar as how much to take. Personally, if I take more than 200 mg with any meal, I get acid indigestion. If I take it between meals I get low blood sugar and have a hard time staying awake. So generally, if you want it to prevent fat, then do the 200mg with three meals for the effective dose. Making sure that you're only taking it when eating carbs as well as making sure not to take it on an empty stomach is the sensible way to go without any negative side effects."

The 'graph above was posted on the board a while ago. Personally, I've never actually experienced the whole "keep carbs for turning into stored fat' thing. I eat about 3-400 mg a day or so, and maybe that's why.
 
Glutamine is what people take to reduce muscle loss, or to prevent becoming catbolic during cardio and/or after workouts. Good to take in post-workout shake.
 
Glutamine? Catabolic?

Uh-Oh! I'm in china again...:D

Ive heard of these things but I don't really know what they are or do. Ill check the search but I am not really good with it. Or some of you really nice people could just tell me what they are...:idea:

Would that workout?

We
 
Glutamine = one Amino acid.
Amino acids are what protein is made of . There are a lot of types, a few which the body can not produce itself. these are called essential amino acids. Glutamine is an essential amino acid.

Catabolic = something that is in a state of or causes a state of catabolism

catabolism = the using up of muscle tissue for either energy (if your not eating enough kcals) or water.

Anabolism = the production of muscle tissue, taking place in a time of sufficient water, kcals and stimuli.

put simply of course
 
I think muscle mass is about 2/3 water and a third protein or something like that.... must be other shizat in there but this formula works for me most the time
 
Hey thanks...

Bonus! Thank you for explaining that! Sometimes I feel as thought there is too much to learn and other times I feel as thought I can soak it up like a sponge.

It all really blows my mind today. Im a mostly full sponge today... it may take awhile to soak in. :confused:

We
 
we5happy, glutamine is good stuff. I can't tell you all the fancy mumble jumble about it(all I know is it's an amino acid). But it helps you recover faster. I am less sore when I take it. I take about 4 tsp a day. It helps you keep muscle when dieting and losing fat.
I think alot of people take about 3 tsp a day. One before workout and one after. Also one before bed. And the powder form is best.
 
If that is the case...

If it will help with the feeling I have in my legs today and yesterday than I am on it! My boyfriend used to take it.

When is it best to take before a workout or right after, etc? Doesnt Creatine make you retain water?

We
 
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