Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below I don't think he is a lawyer, though not totally sure.
Last time I knew he is a jobless former cop. Though again, things may have changed.
New Search and Seizure Law
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I don't think he is a lawyer, though not totally sure.
Last time I knew he is a jobless former cop. Though again, things may have changed.
hwydopehound
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Search warrant. It's about reasonable suspicion and probably cause. If you can give indicators of criminal activity and articulate how based on your training and experience you believe there is contraband in the vehicle the judge will grant you a search warrant.. Has happened with me a couple of times.
Needmassnow is telling me I can search a vehicle if I tow it, HE IS WRONG.. I don't know why you suspect I'm a rookie when it's actually the total opposite. In regards to your thug w/ jewelry, nope thats not pc and thats not relativey close to what I meant by indicators of criminal activity. You are either a shitty defense attorney or a jobless cop-not sure which one yet. I can tell you, sir, that you have no idea of what you speak.
PS, I am not a highway specialist, I work traffic focusing on dui and drug trafficking enforcement :-D... I don't know why you are so pissed, I'm just clarifying the law. No longer can cops search a vehicle for "inventory" purposes. You may search the "lunge area" if you believe the crook has intent to do you bodily harm or has weapons, but that is it...
needmassnow
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You obviously have reading comprehension issues. When you tow someone's vehicle, you are taking care custody and control of that vehicle. You are responsible for inventorying that vehicle for two purposes. First, is safety to the person towing the vehicle and the general public. If there is a meth lab in the trunk, or TNT under the front seat, it is your responsibility to not allow someone to take control of that vehicle until it is rendered safe. Second, it is to alleviate liability from the department if someone should claim they had a million dollars in the trunk, and now it is magically gone when they retrieve their vehicle from the tow yard. So to completely contradict your idiotic statement, not only do you have a RIGHT to inventory a vehicle if you are going to tow it, you have the RESPONSIBILITY to inventory it.
If you re-read my post regarding the thug with jewelry example, you will see that you AGREE with me. So to claim that I have no idea what I am talking about is negating everything you have said as well.
Since I have disproved just about every point you have made, please explain to me how I "have no idea of what I speak," as you so eloquently phrased it.
WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG!!! Infact, the new ruling is saying the complete opposite. The only thing that has changed is that you can no longer blindly search someone's vehicle incident to arrest if no other evidence could reasonably be found inside the vehicle that pertains to the original arrest. I'll give you another example so hopefully if you ever get hired again as a police officer, you won't put yourself in a position to be sued for violating someone's civil rights (since it is quite obvious there is no way you can be currently employed as a police officer and be so misinformed).
You stop someone for running a red light. You run their name and they come back with an outstanding warrant for FTA (failure to appear) for theft. You arrest them for the outstanding warrant. Obviously, there can be no other evidence of the warrant inside the vehicle. Before this supreme court ruling, you were allowed to search the vehicle incident to arrest. The new ruling says that you can NOT search that vehicle based on the set of circumstances I have presented to you.
Okay, now the guy is in handcuffs and in the back of your patrol car. His car is parked in the left lane of the roadway. You have to call for a rotation tow to have his vehicle removed. Now, you may inventory the vehicle. This includes trunk, glove box, under the seats, etc. If you find a kilo of cocaine in the trunk, guess what; he is now charged with cocaine possession.
Read the ruling again my ignorant wannabe police officer. This ruling by no means precludes officers from conducting inventories of vehicles they are towing
needmassnow
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Now I don't even believe you are a rookie. I don't even believe you are a cop after a statement like this. Read my post above and you will see that this new ruling has NOTHING to do with precluding officers from conducting an inventory of a vehicle when towing a vehicle. I'm not mad dude, I just hate it when morons spread misinformation on the internet, and then people run with it like it is gospel.
hwydopehound....hwydopehound....
Ur a cop obviously, what are u doing on this board? Discussing how to use steroids, ..
What pisses me of is cops that do illegal shit and act like they are all clean. No offence but I had to say what I just said. Let's be honest most cops are corrupt, WTF... Messing with steroid users, who are just normal people trying to look good. Whenever it comes to drug lords, organized crime, they are scared to death and pussies, but when they catch a guy with a bottle of test they act all tough, again no offence, but F... Cops, they the real criminals
Ur a cop obviously, what are u doing on this board? Discussing how to use steroids, ..
What pisses me of is cops that do illegal shit and act like they are all clean. No offence but I had to say what I just said. Let's be honest most cops are corrupt, WTF... Messing with steroid users, who are just normal people trying to look good. Whenever it comes to drug lords, organized crime, they are scared to death and pussies, but when they catch a guy with a bottle of test they act all tough, again no offence, but F... Cops, they the real criminals
kx250rider
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I might get in trouble then, because I normally NEVER pull over on the highway. I drive at the speed limit to the next exit, then pull into a safe place. Too many cops & civilians killed on the California freeways while fooling around on the side of the road answering questions or waiting for a ticket. I'd rather be alive & jailed by an angry cop than in a coffin! I made a mistake on the Pacific Coast Highway a few months ago by pulling over right away in a spot that I thought was wide enough, but still several cars swerved and screeched their brakes, only inches from the cop and me. The Los Angeles County sheriff's deputy had me there for 20 minutes of radioing, and I asked him if it's OK to pull around the corner, and he said NO. Next time, I'm not asking; I'm just going to proceed to where I think it's safe. Every time I've done that before, incluiding 6 months ago by the CA Highway patrol when I drove 5 miles on the 118 freeway with her behind me, there's been no problem. I get pulled over constantly because I drive a Toyota Diesel, and the police keep thinking it's a gas engine with some kind of smoke problem. I never get a ticket though. Just questions.
I believe there is a law on the books in California, allowing any driver to refuse to pull over if they think there's somthething fishy about the cop. The law says you can drive to the nearest police station to stop, or to any well-lighted parking lot with plenty of people, if you feel it's safer. They can't, as I understand, charge you with any crime for failing to pull over on those grounds. But once you've voluntarily chosen a place to stop, all bets are off.
Charles
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