New HRT plus 1-T...low HDL cause anxiety?

[lincolnsvo]

Great site. thank you all for the flood of info. I've been studying this stuff for years but only recently got more serious about for myself. I cycled a lot of prohormones 10 years ago... UR-24, T-Bomb, TestorGel, Legal Gear's topical methyl, Andro Edge, Dermadrol...I liked the topicals to avoid liver strain and they worked well for me. Well, Doc just put me on androgel this week. It sucks. (he should be easy to switch to injectable...I knew more about it than he did. He was glad I had done research).
Ironically, I had also started a cycle of Primordial Perf's 1-t mass stack. 2 nights this week I had some chest anxiety where it feels like you can't get enough air and keep trying to yawn deeply, but can't always get it...frustrating. I've had it before but the testgel seemed to trigger it hours after dose. I noticed my HDL was low - 38. Sides of that can cause this symptom. Wonder if the extra Test forced the symptom? I excercise 3 days a week...solid workouts...that should be helping HDL right? Any thoughts? Maybe shouldn't be doing the 1-T stack right now. Free Test was 44, Total Test was 364. didn't look like a complete panel. No est, DHT.

 

[thelion2005]

Some comments IMO and experience:
- Androgel is a fine product. I like the gel better than a cream compound. And it will raise your numbers.
- I would guess the chest action is from the added test and will pass.
- You are doing everything correctly. Give yourself 90 days and keep it simple. Leave out the exotic supps until you see what added testo alone does for you.

 

[lincolnsvo]

Thanks Lion...good advice.
Yeah, and I remembered that I also took T-Bomb 2, post WO supp as usual. It does work for me, but don't need that right now...
I'm 44 with Johnny Depp syndrome...people always assume I'm 27-30. That's great, but maybe it's time I felt like him too. lol.

I'd rather do injections for benefits. Doc just prescribed the gel on thursday but I already had a box and started the 5g packets earlier in the week. So I haven't used his script yet. Monday, I'll just tell him that talked with girlfriend over the weekend..she has too many concerns of contact, I lead an active life, so need to do the shots.

From what I've read, he should prescribe either cypionate or enanthate...is that right?

 

[lincolnsvo]

Well I know what's causing the anxiety... it's Jack3d. I've been taking it for quite a while. Sometimes caffeine bothers me, sometimes it doesn't. I can't deal with it consistantly anymore so I think i'll start cutting it out of my diet. I'm sure the added test doesn't help right now.

Back to the new HRT...I told the Doc that I didn't want the Androgel for too many reasons. Now I have an appointment to go in tomorrow so the Urologist can show me what to do and how much. Apparently, at this place, the urologist handles injection education. Curious to see how much and what they prescribe.

 

[gissim0]

While trying to decide which hrt to get on I looked at androgel. I did read a medical paper that said more of it gets changed into E because it passes thru a layer near the skin than with injections. I dont recall exactly what it was now. SO I tried implants. The doctor gave me 16 of them! I dont know how high my test got but I was having anxiety attacks and high blood pressure episodes as well as my face turning red and now none of that happens when my test levels are approaching 1500. So it must have been thru the roof! Ive found that my body doesnt break test down very much at all and doses that are too low for a 180 pound man are too high for me even though Im MUCH bigger. Free test is 44? my "normal " range is 2.5 to 3 on my tests. Also 364 for test is border line low on my tests.

 

[lincolnsvo]

I switched to injectable a month ago. Love it. 50mg every 3 days.

I was okay for a few days...then started waking up with anxiety. It was horrible. It would go away once I got up and moving, but it would return around bed time. WTF!

The Doc had prescribed some Ambien because I've always had trouble getting to sleep and now was changing my schedule around.
Then I read that odd anxiety was an Ambien side effect with some users. I had him switch me to 5mg Valium and haven't had a problem since. glad that's over!