New Cycle - your thoughts please :)

[adz11]

Hi Guys I'm 31years old and 12.5stones I've just started a cycle which consists of the following;

1-12 week test400 1ml per week
1-6 week deca 200 1ml per week
3-9 HCG 5000ui - 500Ui per week

15-19 PCT clomid 100/50/20/20
Nolvadex 40/40/20/20


My question is should i do test400 2ml i.e. twice a week mixed with deca 200? And should i run deca for 12weeks too?

Would it be beneficial to run HCG from week 1 - 9 as I'm getting mixed views on threads.

I took my first jab on monday and test400 mixed with deca 1ml each (2ml) hurt the next day a lot, some people get the painful leg and some don't I've read so is this normal as i jabbed clean with air being pulled out from muscle, plus massaged and heat patch. Is test400 just a harsh oil?

 

[25homes]

Deca def needs to b extended 6 weeks total waste and you dont need 800mg test..your pct needs some work

 

[adz11]

How about

1-12 week test400 1ml per week
1-12 week deca 200 1ml per week
2-10 HCG 5000ui - 500Ui per week

15-19 PCT clomid 100/50/40/20
Nolvadex 50/40/20/20

 

[Elijah V]

1-12 Test 400 @ 400mg/week total
1-10 Deca @ 300mg/week total (200 is fine, 300 is optimal)
1-12 hCG @ 250iu twice a week
1-12 Arimidex @ 0.5mg EOD

14-18 PCT
Clomid @ 100/50/50/50
Nolvadex @ 40/20/20/20

If estrogen sides arise:-
Nolvadex @ 20mg ED for seven consecutive days

*Use your blood work results in order to find your correct and optimal AI dosages.





Elijah

 

[adz11]

thanks a lot that really helped.

So def not 2ml test and 1.5ml deca week?

 

[Race121]

Might I ask why you have such a boner about running Deca in your first cycle after the guys in your other thread told you it was a bad idea?

I'm just curious what led you to include Deca. Was it a friends advice or did you read something that led you to believe it was needed to achieve a certain outcome?

 

[bonacris]

At 175 lbs you don't need 800mg of test. And deca is a horrible drug to recover from it really isn't suitable for a guy who cycles. And definitely not for a 1st time..

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[adz11]

hi mate i did read some info about it, good to gain mass and the guy who i bought of said it was an easy cycle to run with test400

 

[MaxxReps]

Test 400 can be painful. It has a high concentration of hormones which is painful and can contain Test Prop, which is also painful on its own.

 

[tiggerizme]

Deca is outdated, drop it and run Test by itself for 1st time user

 

[jester72]

hi mate i did read some info about it, good to gain mass and the guy who i bought of said it was an easy cycle to run with test400

Any cycle is an easy cycle to run. Deca-Durabolin however, is the single hardest steroid to RECOVER from. Drop it completely!!! Not only do you have no business running it for a 1st cycle, your dosing is wrong, as well as the length of time you want to run it. I won't even get into the fact your running nothing for prolactin control, and you want to use Nolva at that dosage to PCT a 19-Nor steroid. You've basically laid out what could amount to a disaster in the making.

You obviously listened to this person, and just took their word as gospel without researching anything yourself beforehand. In the future, you'd be wise to do a LOT more research, and have your AAS, PCT, and all proper ancillaries on hand before starting a cycle.

 

[adz11]

so 1ml test 12weeks

should i not finish the deca off as it has about 2-3ml left?

 

[John McLane]

Get rid of the Deca. Its a NIGHTMARE to recover from.

 

[Dustodrol]

Just run 4-Androstenediol with your test for your first 8 weeks it will not be as hardcore as deca but it will cut down on sides and is easer to recover from.

 

[Dustodrol]

Oh my bad you already did the deca look into getting Cabergoline it's good to do about .25mgs of it twice weekly depending on prolactin.