New Cycle, Test E fun!

[leatherface7]

Hey guys, I have done a cycle once in the past (5 years ago), and want to do another now. I am keeping it very basic but would like some comments just to see where I stand.
Age: 27
Training for 10+ years
5 7"
180lbs
9% bf

Mostly looking for strength gains, though some more muscle mass is always good. Below is my proposed cycle:

10 weeks of
600mg test E / week
2 pumps AIFM ED (1morning 1night) .. (if too much, drop to 1)

Week 12
2 pumps AIFM ED (1morning 1night)
20 Mg Nolvadex EOD

**week 13-16
50mg clomid/day
1 pumps AIFM ED

*use AIFM 1-2 weeks beyond clomid
start clomid about 2 weeks after last shot


Any questions or comments are greatly appreciated!

 

[warrior08]

Pct is weak!!!! Do some research and in about 5 min. You'll understand why.

 

[Leather Neck]

You'll need something to counteract the clomid effects also 600mg is a little high for a second cycle. More isn't always better

 

[Leather Neck]

Also chuck the nolvadex in the garbage

 

[leatherface7]

Pct is weak!!!! Do some research and in about 5 min. You'll understand why.

I did do some research, as well as scour other forums to see what some first/second time users were doing for PCT. Seems to be many mixed opinions, but this worked good for me in the past so I thought I would stay with it.

I will continue to do more research though to see what else I can come up with. Thanks man

 

[leatherface7]

You'll need something to counteract the clomid effects also 600mg is a little high for a second cycle. More isn't always better

If 600mg (300 twice a week) is really too high, I can cut back down to 500 (that is what I did the first time).

 

[Leather Neck]

I would stick with 500 personally, no need to be a hero

 

[EZ_E]

500 mg/week is fine....

PCT sucks....read any one of Dylan Gemelli's posts for the right PCT..

~EZ

 

[leatherface7]

500 mg/week is fine....

PCT sucks....read any one of Dylan Gemelli's posts for the right PCT..

~EZ

500 it is then!

I have been looking into more PCT options for the last couple hours, and it seems like many 1st/2nd time user's stick to Ldex during the cycle and nolva/clomid for the PCT. With that said I would probably switch out the AIFM with Ldex @ 0.25mg/EoD until PCT starts, and then do something like
Nolva 40/40/20/20
clomid 100/100/50/50

I read through some of Dylans more recent posts, but couldn't find exactly what I was looking for. I will keep searching though.
Thanks!

 

[leatherface7]

So after researching some more and whatnot, here is what I currently have:

W1-12 500mg test/week 250/monday and 250/thursday
W1-14 Ldex 0.25mg EoD

PCT
W 15-18 Nolva 40/40/20/20 clomid 50/50/25/25

I am considering adding some form of HCG but not sure if this is possible yet. Can anyone provide anymore input on adding some form of HCG? Is there an oral alternative? I will continue to look into this more tomorrow.

Thanks a lot for all the help.

 

[UA_Iron]

1. AIFM is more of a topical aromasin than anything else. It probably is superior to adex. I'd choose ERASE over any of them.
2. 600mg/week isn't too much if you're really at 9%. It's 20% higher than 500mg/week, but guess what, most gear is dosed +/- 10% anyway.
3. There are better PCT options out there now.

 

[joeblow12345]

I think 500 mg test is enough for a 2nd cycle. I would kick start it with dbol or superdrol. Both of those will yield great strength gains. Dbol will have more bloat but an ai can take care of that. I suggest trying out the new transdermal forms of these. Oral forms are only safe for 4-6 weeks, transdermals can be ran 8-12 weeks. So you get twice as long to gain. For pct run this.

Clomid 25 mg day( higher doses= more sides and no additional benefits)
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[EZ_E]

^^ There's your PCT

 

[leatherface7]

I think 500 mg test is enough for a 2nd cycle. I would kick start it with dbol or superdrol. Both of those will yield great strength gains. Dbol will have more bloat but an ai can take care of that. I suggest trying out the new transdermal forms of these. Oral forms are only safe for 4-6 weeks, transdermals can be ran 8-12 weeks. So you get twice as long to gain. For pct run this.

Clomid 25 mg day( higher doses= more sides and no additional benefits)
Post cycle/ unleashed
Forma
Daa

I was thinking about kick starting with dbol, but I think I will hold off until next time for that.

As I said, I was using AIFM for my AI originally, (topical), and that worked well for me in the past. Most people seem to lean towards Ldex now though so I was going to switch to that.

As for the rest of the recommended PCT, apparently I need to do more research because I am not familiar with much of that other than the Clomid!

 

[Dolphrundgren]

Dbol is fun and my favorite kickstart. You wouldn't be disappointed.

 

[wootoom]

If he dies, he dies...I had to lol

 

[Dolphrundgren]

It's been my nick name since 84 when the movie came out.

 

[leatherface7]

Lol, i did heavily consider it and I will definitely do it next cycle.