new cycle question

[looking to lean]

Im almost tired of the crazy derma push here. no offense, but somehow this board has gone from having options given to people asking... to "fuck clomid use dermacrin for pct bro....10x as good" and "dont need the clomid but its still ok to take with derma".

I dont know alot about it, but dont disregard years of science for a new product just cuz someone has said to.

Do some research for yourself.

good luck sir

 

[looking to lean]

so is the 10 weeks just to short to show me gains with e.q.?

it takes 8 weeks to get to a consistant level in your blood. that leaves 2 weeks of its full potential for your top gains on it.

 

[needtogetaas]

Im almost tired of the crazy derma push here. no offense, but somehow this board has gone from having options given to people asking... to "fuck clomid use dermacrin for pct bro....10x as good" and "dont need the clomid but its still ok to take with derma".

I dont know alot about it, but dont disregard years of science for a new product just cuz someone has said to.

Do some research for yourself.

good luck sir

so show me the years of science on clomid being used for pct.o and not on rats ether.

 

[needtogetaas]

Im almost tired of the crazy derma push here. no offense, but somehow this board has gone from having options given to people asking... to "fuck clomid use dermacrin for pct bro....10x as good" and "dont need the clomid but its still ok to take with derma".

I dont know alot about it, but dont disregard years of science for a new product just cuz someone has said to.

Do some research for yourself.

good luck sir

and you might as well get used to it.dermacrin works for pct so I am going to keep telling people to use it.....is there some thing wrong with telling som one to use some thing that works and is going to help them....no I think not.

 

[Mac173]

Run the test e from the beginning. Test e takes 4-6wks to kick in so there will be a big gap between the time the prop clears and the test e kicks in.

Run the prop eod not 3x/wk.

Run eq minimum 12wks and I wouldn't go lower than 600.

Var shouldn't be run for PCT, it is suppressive.

Start the clomid 2-3wks since you are using eq or end the eq a wk before the test and start clomid 2wks after the test.

 

[dbell51]

if i run the prop after the eth then what should i do to kick start my cycle....thats why i was going to do the prop in the beginning

 

[SpyWizard]

ditto.

use of another aas is not PCT. take the anavar for the first weeks when you arent taking the winny. then switch to winny to finish. or var all the way thru to finish if you have enough. Id switch from one to the other personally. maybe proviron through out.

EQ should be run 12+weeks and usually 15+ weeks. I would personally drop the EQ for this cycle if you are only going to do 10 weeks. save it for another/longer cycle after. or get more test and EQ and take it to 15 weeks.

AIFM throughout sounds good.

if you are going to switch esters, I would use the prop last... not first. giving TestE's longer ester time to clear as the prop kicks in much sooner and leaves much sooner. this will make PCT make easier. TestP should be EoD or ED.. not MWF. blood level consistancy being the issue.

clomid should be fine for PCT IMO. 4 weeks min...

Im no expert here, just my point of view.

but your point of view is right on...

the issue with doing prop then the test e.. there will be about 3-4 weeks before the test e kicks in.. so we will see about 3 weeks where your test levels will be low..

 

[looking to lean]

and you might as well get used to it.dermacrin works for pct so I am going to keep telling people to use it.....is there some thing wrong with telling som one to use some thing that works and is going to help them....no I think not.

not trying to ruffle your feathers Need. not at all. just seeing that post non-stop and had to say my peace. nuff said.

 

[Mac173]

if i run the prop after the eth then what should i do to kick start my cycle....thats why i was going to do the prop in the beginning

You run them both from the beginning.

 

[luke_moore]

fuck clomid use dermacrin for pct bro....10x as good.

Any you've personally run it as PCT? So you know first hand?