fitwitlem said:
do you hear and see all this shit that has been going down here, this is crazy! cant people just stick to given good information without thinkn they know everything, ive been reading here for awhile, joined not too long ago, but tryn to establish some good peeps to share wit and make some friends along the way. there is alot bullshit flying around left and right. it makes it difficult to know who is what anymore. what do you think of all this bro?
Are you asking me?
The way I see it is this.
EF is a place for like-minded individuals to get and share information. It's also a place to do business. It always has been. When people bitch about the good old days they're kidding themselves. There's always been someone bringing attention to one product or another, be it a book, or a supp or whatever. That's fine. But there's a point where some guys go over the line.
Macro and ulter did just that. They controlled the board. Bashed the competition. Deleted and editied and censored posts to suit their needs.
They had to go.
Other mods were here doing underhanded business, scamming, etc.
They had to go.
They'll always be people who miss the way it was -- even if what it was wasn't any better.
What's happened recently is a bit of a monkey fuck. I was asked to come back, share some thought and bring some attention to my products along the way. Most members are smart. They'll take the info and if it doesn't suit them, they'll discard it. They don't have to get up in arms and start insulting people.
I've always had controversial theories and whenever you think outside the box there's going to be some debate -- which is great -- but there will also be people who get out of line. That's when the fights start. Others pile on. It happens.
Then there's been people who've invited themselves in the mix. Some may have a lot to offer but it starts to come off like a bit of a free for all. And honestly, although I have no problem with people promoting their products, it's gotten to the point where threads are nothing but flat out ads with nothing to offer than to alert members of something they should buy. I think that's bad form and it puts a bad taste in peoples mouths.
Anthony is here because he has a very popular book sold on the site. If anyone has questions he's here to answer. But sometimes we wind up with threads that become shouting matches between two or three people. That's not right. It's selfish. It doesn't serve the board.
I'm here because of my rep in the industry and I love talking about bodybuilding. I also designed some products that I think many people will really like. Everyody wins. But again, some people want to take anybody down they can and someone who forces them to re-think their ways is an appealing target. Everybody loses.
I'd like to make a plea to members and sponsers alike.
Members: realize that this site exists because of the business it generates. If a product looks good, give it a tray. If it sucks, don't buy it anymore. Then you'll know. It won't take long to find out what's good and what sucks. Isnt that better than listening to some malcontent bitch and complain about something he doesn't even know about? If someone is offering advice, don't bust their hump when they make a recommendation that isn't a drug. Be respectful. We're bodybuilders and we're here to do and try everything that's going to help with our goals.
To the sponsers. Lighten up. Don't start threads that offer nothing but bringing attention to a product. Help with questions unrelated to supplement if you can. If not, bow out. Be patient with newbies. Don't hyjack threads offering your products over someone elses. Listen to the members concerns.
This is a great board. It's changing board. It always was. It can be better than ever but let's take a step back now and then and make sure we stay on track so everyone walks away with what they need.
That's my take.
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