Nelson Montana- Glutamine

[Peyomp]

That's a pretty vauge study. No mention of its application (IV?) and it refers to "injury patients," whatever that means.

There was a recent study by the University of Miami on oral glutamine among athletes. The conclusion: No effect.

Did you conclude that from the abstract, or from the article itself? I guess you wouldn't criticize an article on the basis of a vague abstract, would you?

 

[Zoomster]

Glutamine is a good suuplement for all.

I read this shit, and I still come back to the same conclusion..I take it, I feel good, especially my work outs.

Take all of the scientific study's that you want.

I fucking works in the gym.

 

[fhg43]

Glutamine is a good suuplement for all.

I read this shit, and I still come back to the same conclusion..I take it, I feel good, especially my work outs.

Take all of the scientific study's that you want.

I fucking works in the gym.

This is the placebo effect. You think its good so you feel good.

Hard to argue w/science bro; hard to argue w/science.

FHG

 

[MikeyG]

I would have to agree with most of the people here that glutamine powder is useless--

Instead of paying $$$ for supplement crap--- I'd rather get and eat real food. But I'd like to know where is the best food sources we can obtain glutamine from? Cottage Cheese? Beef?

 

[jubei]

Taking 5 grams a day of glutamine is a waste of time, you won't notice anything. If you can get it really cheap it may be worth you while to take say 40-50 (extra)grams per day may yield "some" results. Glutimine is just an amino acid. If you take in 500 grams of protien you get about 50 grams per day anyways. Is it important, well yes, but no more than the other amino acids in protien. Haven't read anything lately, I would like to read a report if anyone can dig one out.

 

[MasterChief]

Damn Andy, dont make me copy & paste your ass, boy

LOL!!

 

[Tigrones]

I mix 10g of Glutamine with 1g of MSM (Methyl Sulfonyl Methane) on empty stomach upon rising.
I tried this formula on and off with otherwise identical training and nutrition program and experienced greater and faster recovery between workouts and slight strenght increase when on it. So I know it is not placebo as I am in tune with my body.

 

[drveejay11]

I mix 10g of Glutamine with 1g of MSM (Methyl Sulfonyl Methane) on empty stomach upon rising.
I tried this formula on and off with otherwise identical training and nutrition program and experienced greater and faster recovery between workouts and slight strenght increase when on it. So I know it is not placebo as I am in tune with my body.

I have a few problems with this post.

1) How can you attribute and isolate your positive effects to Glutamine if you were taking 1 G of MSM also?

2) Define "greater and faster recovery"........are you saying that you just didn't "hurt" as much the next day as typically? This is tantamount to MSM's primary benefit. To act as an anti-inflammatory. MSM, or Methylsulfonylmethane, provides the body with extra organic sulfur. Many of the components of joints, including collagen and glucosamine, are sulfur-dependent. MSM appears most helpful for people with arthritis. Typically, the association of taking MSM becomes LESS PAIN. It's effects are comparable to Advil.

And, maybe the "strength increase" comes from "happier joints"

No personal attack here bro.........just playing Devil's Advocate with response to your comments about Glutamine.

 

[Nelson Montana]

MSM is good stuff.

I stumbled upon some literature years ago and thought 'this would make a great bodybuilding supplement'. I presented the idea to Biotest back in '98, when I was working for them, and they poo-pooed it -- said it wasn't "spectacular" enough, nobody's heard of it, and couldn't market it as an anabolic. So instead, they put out a bunch of bogus crap that claims to raise testosterone 1000000 percent.

And Tigrones; Sorry bro, but the glutamine did nothing -- because it can't. I'd say your results were definetly from the MSM.

 

[Tigrones]

I have a few problems with this post.

1) How can you attribute and isolate your positive effects to Glutamine if you were taking 1 G of MSM also?

2) Define "greater and faster recovery"........are you saying that you just didn't "hurt" as much the next day as typically? This is tantamount to MSM's primary benefit. To act as an anti-inflammatory. MSM, or Methylsulfonylmethane, provides the body with extra organic sulfur. Many of the components of joints, including collagen and glucosamine, are sulfur-dependent. MSM appears most helpful for people with arthritis. Typically, the association of taking MSM becomes LESS PAIN. It's effects are comparable to Advil.

And, maybe the "strength increase" comes from "happier joints"

No personal attack here bro.........just playing Devil's Advocate with response to your comments about Glutamine.

To answer your questions:

1. Good question. That is why I take it with glutamine. On its own, MSM did not yield same recovery results.

2. by greater and faster recovery I mean that I reduced the amount of time between subsuquent workouts. it's not so much about pain, but time elapsed between my muscles were ready to get pounded again. For example, I tried playing around with one day on/one day off, two days on/one day off cycles. I was able to do the latter while on glutamine/msm. As far as strength increase, I did say it was slight, so yes, could be happier joints.

At my age (41), it takes naturally longer to recover, so it seems to be working for me. Again, when taking only MSM, it just didn't seem to help me as much. Of course, it doesn't mean it would produce same results for everyone.

I appreciate your debate, prudent questions are always welcomed, that is our way to discovery.