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absolutechris

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Hello iam new here and i would like to ask help about my first cycle and especialy about the pct after the cycle . Iam 23 and my current stats are 192 pounds and 5.8 feet . I dont know my current bf but i have been training for at least 3 years and have made great gains at those years especialy the last one . My supplementation is very good so is my diet with not much carbs and a lot of protein . At the moment iam cutting and have lost 15 pounds but i want to maintain my muscle gains and put up more muscle after i cut 10 more poundsand do my first cycle . My cycle is going to be :
6 weeks and iam gonna take test , mast and tren i dont know about pct and i want to know if it will be very bad if i dont do the pct at all for my first cycle . I dont want to buy any sarms and want to keep it simple and not put anything more if you have any suggestions please say it


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You don't know how you react to test never mind an extremely harsh steroid like tren.. just do test only and do it properly

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PCT layout:
Weeks 1-4- 40 mg GP Nolva per day
Weeks 1-4 100mg GP Clomiphene per day
Weeks 1-5 1mg GP Anastrozole per day
Week 1- 4,500 iu HCG
Week 2- 3,000 iu HCG

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Thanks for all the advice guys by the way the personal trainer who gave me the gear suggested me to take preknil 1500 and proviron for pct . I know that noone has ever mentioned them but i knowthat this guy is very knowgeable about steroids and has been using them for 20 years . I also dont want to dn any more ingections after the cycle and better use tablet or oral drugs for the pct any suggestions?


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absolutechris said:
Thanks for all the advice guys by the way the personal trainer who gave me the gear suggested me to take preknil 1500 and proviron for pct . I know that noone has ever mentioned them but i knowthat this guy is very knowgeable about steroids and has been using them for 20 years . I also dont want to dn any more ingections after the cycle and better use tablet or oral drugs for the pct any suggestions?


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Are you getting your gear from him?

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Yes but he is a good friend of my cousin and he has been at bOdybuilding for almost 20 years and he told me to go buy proviron And pregnyl from a pharmacy


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absolutechris said:
Yes but he is a good friend of my cousin and he has been at bOdybuilding for almost 20 years and he told me to go buy proviron And pregnyl from a pharmacy


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So he's a glorified drug dealer. If he suggests tren for a 1st cycle then he has no regard for your health and is only interested in your money. That's the honest truth
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So only mast and test would be better because tren is far more dangerous for the 1 st cycle . But the tren isnt for losing weight and gaining strength ? By the way me best friend has run 3 cycles with tren test and mast and didnt have any problems except at his lAst cycle he had some problem with his erections and not anything serious and after two weeks he was ok


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absolutechris said:
So only mast and test would be better because tren is far more dangerous for the 1 st cycle . But the tren isnt for losing weight and gaining strength ? By the way me best friend has run 3 cycles with tren test and mast and didnt have any problems except at his lAst cycle he had some problem with his erections and not anything serious and after two weeks he was ok


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Tren comes with the most side effects of any steroids.. If you do get bad side effects how do you know what steroid is causing it. Is it the test tren or mast. You don't know.. that's why you start with test only and then go from there. Tren is best kept for people with a few years experience.
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absolutechris said:
Thanks for all the advice guys by the way the personal trainer who gave me the gear suggested me to take preknil 1500 and proviron for pct . I know that noone has ever mentioned them but i knowthat this guy is very knowgeable about steroids and has been using them for 20 years . I also dont want to dn any more ingections after the cycle and better use tablet or oral drugs for the pct any suggestions?


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Your buddy is setting you up for disaster.
You can't run a steroid in PCT after a steroid cycle. That's just continuing to cycle, and you can't recover from that bro. You need to run a proper PCT. This is what I recommend:


Liquid Clomid 50/50/25/25 (AncillaryGuys // AG-Guys.com - The #1 online Natural Ancillary retailer!)
Liquid Aromasin (AncillaryGuys // AG-Guys.com - The #1 online Natural Ancillary retailer!)
Test Stack 17 (PM me or see thread below for info and discounts) http://w3.teststackrx.com/102.html
Ostarine 25mg per day (SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators)


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Thanks bonacris and rickrock13 i will do cycle of5-6 week test and maybe mast is there any prob if i dont do any pct . If i really have to what would you suggest me because i dont Live in us and live at europe so i dont know if we have here these Products like rickro k13 said and i dont want to order them from the internet so if i go to a pharmacy will i get these without prescription and i want the pct to not to be any ingections sorry for so many questions and thanks for your support


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absolutechris said:
Thanks bonacris and rickrock13 i will do cycle of5-6 week test and maybe mast is there any prob if i dont do any pct . If i really have to what would you suggest me because i dont Live in us and live at europe so i dont know if we have here these Products like rickro k13 said and i dont want to order them from the internet so if i go to a pharmacy will i get these without prescription and i want the pct to not to be any ingections sorry for so many questions and thanks for your support


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You must PCT after your cycle in order to recover. If not you will likely lose most if not all of your gains, and risk the possibility of never recovering your natural test levels. There is also a high risk of estrogen rebound which can give you gyno
 
Listen to a lot of the guys on here....they give great advice. I'm only going to be starting my second cycle, and I wont even try Tren yet. I want to, but want to wait a while before I do. Also, I'd check you bf first before adding mast....from my understanding, it'll be best to run once your bf is lower.

Here's what I am setting up for my PCT and on cycle support:
HCG on cycle and into PCT @ 500iu pwk
Aromasin 12.5mg eod throughout
N2Guard (I may add it, it was recommend to me) throughout
Clomid 40/40/40/40
Post-Cycle / Unleashed
Forma Stanzol

And I'd consider running test a little longer than 6 weeks if you're running it alone.

Hope some more experienced guys can correct if need be, but it sounds like this dude is just selling to you to sell to you.

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