Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below Hello all, before hand I'd like to say thank you to anyone offering assistance. Here is the deal. I just started Clenbuterol two weeks ago and am currently on the second week keeping it steady at 80 mcg a day. Anyway, I got blood work done a week ago, and received terrible news. I have low thyroid and low testosterone. For those who don't know low thyroid means that I have a naturally slow metabolism a long with a lot of other bad things. This is the reason I resorted to Clen to help remove the last bit of fat, and now I know why I gain fat so quick. Anyway my doctor prescribed me levothyroxine (synthetic T4). I am supposed to start taking it to get my thyroid levels back to normal. The issue now is that I am still on the clen. Should I stop the clen all together? the T4 will not raise my thyroid levels above normal as I read that T4 stops converting to T3 once your levels are normal. how should I address this situation?
Need help from you educated guys out there. URGENT
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Stop the clen.
back up a minute here... what are your stats? age?
messing with your thyroids is a bad idea unless its absolutely necessary. are you in that bad a shape where you MUST go on T4? otherwise don't do it. your doctor doesn't have your best interest at heart, you have to make a smart decision on your own
secondly clen is just a temporary solution to your problem, you will gain everything back and then some once you come off clen.
as for low test, thats another situation where you have to make a decision, but make it a smart one.. once you go on TRT you are gonna be on forever. you need to exhaust other solutions first to boost your testosterone. this includes lifestyle changes and trying some natty test boosters first and seeing if that helps
messing with your thyroids is a bad idea unless its absolutely necessary. are you in that bad a shape where you MUST go on T4? otherwise don't do it. your doctor doesn't have your best interest at heart, you have to make a smart decision on your own
secondly clen is just a temporary solution to your problem, you will gain everything back and then some once you come off clen.
as for low test, thats another situation where you have to make a decision, but make it a smart one.. once you go on TRT you are gonna be on forever. you need to exhaust other solutions first to boost your testosterone. this includes lifestyle changes and trying some natty test boosters first and seeing if that helps
I have taken a natty test booster before, but my test was still very low. I haven't got my physical results in the mail for me to keep, but when he was going over them with me, under free testosterone it said normal 35 and mine was 6.0. Also, what would you suggest then besides going on T4? I was just doing as he said because I thought he knew best. My mom also has low thyroid and I also may have the thallesemia trait in me. Yeah it's a huge mess for me.. Sucks! And what do you mean by lifestyle changes? Although I am only 18, my diet is pretty clean for the most part. And yes I know it's stupid for me to be messing with clen at 18, but I did it because I was willing to go to deperate measures to get that last bit off. I have gone through phases of depression because I have always felt like I gain weight so fast and that I gain muscle ridiculously slow compared to the people around me.. Turned out I have two medical conditions which are the cause of both of those.. Ahh I hate it
how old are you? and what are your stats?
i will bet my left nut if you change your lifestyle your thyroid problems will magically go away. i had an X who had thyroid issues too, i had her totally re-vamp her diet... from mcdonalds and pepsi TO fruits/veggies/whole grains... 3 months later she checks her thyroids and they are normal.. this doesn't happen all the time, there are legit cases of people having thyroid problems but you would be suprised what can happen if you change your lifestyle. her doctors explanation was "oh your prior tests must have been off" ... your mom having thyroid problems could be due to the fact you both share poor diet, as my X's mom had thyroid issues too.
doctors won't tell you to change your diet.
i will bet my left nut if you change your lifestyle your thyroid problems will magically go away. i had an X who had thyroid issues too, i had her totally re-vamp her diet... from mcdonalds and pepsi TO fruits/veggies/whole grains... 3 months later she checks her thyroids and they are normal.. this doesn't happen all the time, there are legit cases of people having thyroid problems but you would be suprised what can happen if you change your lifestyle. her doctors explanation was "oh your prior tests must have been off" ... your mom having thyroid problems could be due to the fact you both share poor diet, as my X's mom had thyroid issues too.
doctors won't tell you to change your diet.
I also have two bottles of beastdrol in my drawer and was planning on buying the rest of my support supps today if my blood work came back alright.. But looks like that's gonna go on hold for a while. Before I get criticized, I'm sure some of you guys can see where I was coming from with wanting to take Superdrol. Due to my ridiculously low testosterone levels, I felt as if I was not getting anywhere. And I have pretty much dedicated everything to lifting and eating right and tracking my calories. So I was looking at that to help me. But I am a bit relieved to find out that it actually was a medical condition and that my genetics weren't THAT horrible
You may not believe this coming from an 18 year old, but my diet is pretty clean, especially for someone my age. I used to weigh 220 pounds at 40% body fat as a 16 year old. I lost about 70 pounds over a year and changed my whole life. I eat out maybe once a week and still I choose healthy. I don't drink pepsi or anything like that however I did not cut out simple sugars completely. my diet has been very clean and I log everything I eat on my phone on a day to day basis. Most everything I eat is whole grains.. To be honest I don't think diet is the factor I hope I'm not coming off as stubborn. Oh and my stats at 18 years old 5'9 and right under 160 pounds. Yes very light, and yes I know very stupid to even consider superdrol or clen. But I was desperate. Definitely going to be changing some things, and I'm hoping the tesosterone can give me the building power of a regular person.
yeah 40% body fat and its no surprise you have slow metabolism bro.
i would stick to a very strict diet. high metabolism foods.. and exercise a lot. and you will improve your overall health.
also at 18 you should not be messing with beastdrol. you know our rules about posting in AAS forum
i would stick to a very strict diet. high metabolism foods.. and exercise a lot. and you will improve your overall health.
also at 18 you should not be messing with beastdrol. you know our rules about posting in AAS forum
yeah 40% body fat and its no surprise you have slow metabolism bro.
i would stick to a very strict diet. high metabolism foods.. and exercise a lot. and you will improve your overall health.
also at 18 you should not be messing with beastdrol. you know our rules about posting in AAS forum
Well yeah obviously I have a naturally low metabolism because of the thyroid.. Right now I'm at about 15% body fat, and I reached that with the strict diet. It's not the same foods every day but its at 2200 calories every day with a 40p/40c/20f split. and as of now I lift 4 times a week each about an hour and do cardio right after for 15 minutes which works out to be about a mile and a half of running.. To be honest steve I'm not sure what you're getting at?? I already lift 4 times a week, have a stable diet, do cardio, and have not been anywhere near obesity for over a year. There's not much else I can do to improve my overall health.. My sex drive is non existent, my motivation for the gym is hardly there anymore, and my metabolism is in the shits.. I think it's got way beyond just my lifestyle. Plus my ancestry is Asian-Indian so we are known to have low testosterone and history of things like thallesemia. I would understand if my levels were slightly under, but the blood work showed that my thyroid and test were both siginificantly lower than normal..
Do you think I should stop the clen right away and start taking the T4 tomorrow? Or should I taper off for a few days? I know taper isn't neccesary, just wanted to know what you would reccomend.
^^^ okay so you turned yourself into good shape without the use of hormones and thyroid/stimulants. that was the point i was making for you.
if you want to jump on T3 and TRT for life at 18 years old then that is your decision but since you went from 40% to 15% body fat through diet and exercise what is the point?
we all have shitty genetics compared to guys like Jay Cutler or Ronnie Coleman, doesn't mean we still don't motivate ourselves for the gym.. in this sport we all have different genetics, but the beauty of it all is that we can still work out hard and have fun. you are ONLY 18, motivation will come and go as you go to college, get a job, get married, have kids, etc etc.
if you want to jump on T3 and TRT for life at 18 years old then that is your decision but since you went from 40% to 15% body fat through diet and exercise what is the point?
we all have shitty genetics compared to guys like Jay Cutler or Ronnie Coleman, doesn't mean we still don't motivate ourselves for the gym.. in this sport we all have different genetics, but the beauty of it all is that we can still work out hard and have fun. you are ONLY 18, motivation will come and go as you go to college, get a job, get married, have kids, etc etc.
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You think you're a mess now just keep messing with steroids,thats gonna shut down your HPTA and totally mess up your growing process,at 18 the body is still maturing adding hormones will stop everything, swtop everything and start Eating Clean and Exercise,and everything should eventually straighten itself out.
^^^ yup that was what i was gonna add ... you start messing with your hormones at 18 and you are gonna make your situation way worse. beastdrol is no joke, that is some of the strongest stuff i've ever used. and it even states on the bottle not to be used by anyone under 21. there is a reason for that.
i still mantain you should stick to what got you to 15% body fat and leave these strong compounds alone.
you said you were asian-indian then i would think you would be willing to go the natural route first before resorting to drugs. PM me if you want to really put your diet in high gear, i will put you on a high metabolism diet and your doctor won't understand what happened to you when he tests your thyroid in a couple months.
i still mantain you should stick to what got you to 15% body fat and leave these strong compounds alone.
you said you were asian-indian then i would think you would be willing to go the natural route first before resorting to drugs. PM me if you want to really put your diet in high gear, i will put you on a high metabolism diet and your doctor won't understand what happened to you when he tests your thyroid in a couple months.
As of now I'm not talking about the beastdrol. I'm not going to use that I decided, atleast for now. But what about the T4 and testosterone? You don't think I should get the prescriptions from my doctor? I'm talking about my low thyroid and low testosterone. I need to make a change because as of now I am not seeing changes in my body like everyone else around me. Would you advise me to deny the doctor and not take the T4 and accept treatment for my testosterone? At 18 shouldn't my testosterone be at my highest? and in my case, it's tremendously low.. also I know I got to 15% without that, but what if I did have a normal thyroid? Maybe it would have come faster and I could actually live a normal teenage life. At some times I hate my life. I am in university and go straight there and straight back. And this is because I can never eat out which is what we end up doing most of the time. I don't drink soda, rarely anything to treat myself. It just had me thinking if I had a normal metabolism for once I could actually not have to worry about every calorie I eat constantly.
^^^ well you never said what your test levels were so i cannot give you an opinion. but i will say again you went from 40% to 15% body fat with lifestyle changes.
when it comes to TRT you need to exhaust everything first before going on for life. the worst thing you can do is put yourself on any drug forever unless its absolutely necessary. so whatever decision you make you need to be smart about it. and I'm moving this over to the correct forum.. you should not be posting in the AAS forum under 21.
when it comes to TRT you need to exhaust everything first before going on for life. the worst thing you can do is put yourself on any drug forever unless its absolutely necessary. so whatever decision you make you need to be smart about it. and I'm moving this over to the correct forum.. you should not be posting in the AAS forum under 21.
Again, I am NOT going to take the beastdrol. I am talking about the prescriptions that my doctor wants to give me. So correct me if I'm wrong but you guys reccomend that I disregard the prescriptions and let my thyroid and testosterone even out itself? So I should just wait and hope that it gets better naturally?
No problem, I completely respect that I didn't know the correct forum to post it on. and I will get my work back in a few days and PM you. From what the doctor said, it was tremendously low. I know I should seriously think about that, but if my levels are low at 18 when they are supposed to be highest, what evidence is there that it will get better as I age? you see where I am coming from? Also, what are some of these options that I should exhaust. well, atleast the ones I havent tried already I mean
if i had an 18 year old son in your situation I would definately not want him on tesosterone or T3 for the rest of his life UNLESS all other options were exhausted.
doctors are gonna encourage you to get on drugs, cause that is what they do well.
Yeah I see where you're coming from. Damn I'm really confused it sucks being 18 being put in this kind of position.. oh well shit happens I guess. My blood work should come in the mail tomorrow or day after with the exact numbers. Maybe after those come in I cane message you Steve and maybe you can have a better idea of what I'm working with? Again, thank you guys so much for the advice.
