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latino3001

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Hey guys I'm new on here , I'm looking to try some oral stuff , never really used much as I'm new to everything steroid base . Any suggestions on good oral stacks??? I've been looking at Tbol stacked with stana? Or something like that, tbol sounds amazing , cheers . Really just need advice on where to start . I have been doing my research , have done anavar and stana in past but yeah didn't really know what I was doing .
 
Age : 24
Weight : 85kg
Height: 178-9?
What other stats you want bud ? Well as summer is coming up , whatever really , if I can put a bit of size on in few months that would be ideal , if not , if you think cutting down would be better ?
Putting lean muscle on would be my ideal choice tho .
 
u should never do an oral only cycle...a lot of beginners wanna do this but u should always run a test base especially with orals.........
 
I agree I don't doubt that the oral tablets would be harsh on your liver so what are you guys recommend for a beginner for a first cycle? And everything I'd need 👍
 
Test cyp or enan at 300mg per week. All you need for a first cycle. Make sure you have a PCT set up as well.
 
latino3001 said:
Hey guys I'm new on here , I'm looking to try some oral stuff , never really used much as I'm new to everything steroid base . Any suggestions on good oral stacks??? I've been looking at Tbol stacked with stana? Or something like that, tbol sounds amazing , cheers . Really just need advice on where to start . I have been doing my research , have done anavar and stana in past but yeah didn't really know what I was doing .
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plz help me
 
clutchitalian said:
u should never do an oral only cycle...a lot of beginners wanna do this but u should always run a test base especially with orals.........
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I totally disagree. Oral only cycles for a first cycle is not useless. Jesus, I love told this story a million times on here...the best (keep able) gains I've got was off 60-80mg of Var for 10 weeks. It built my base off this cycle. Especially when you are younger.
 
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wootoom said:
I totally disagree. Oral only cycles for a first cycle is not useless. Jesus, I love told this story a million times on here...the best (keep able) gains I've got was off 60-80mg of Var for 10 weeks. It built my base off this cycle. Especially when you are younger.
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I wouldent say pointless, not not optimal IMO.. that var cycle with 100-200mg teste added ew would likely have only added to that.
my main worry is sides from lowT due to shutdown while on other steroids other than test and limiting gains to top it off. atleast with test added to any cycle you mostly got your bases covered in that area.
hey im not judging, i built my base and did my first cycle of DECA ONLY for 11 weeks and didnt have dick issues and made some gains. but i would never rec that to anyone or do it again because I know better now ( plus my doc gave it too me so i took his word for it and didnt complain lol) I love my deca but some test in there is a godsend.

if i would rec any oral it would be var......, but OP I highly rec something more along these lines:
wk1-12 400-500mg teste or cyp
wk1-14 AI : Dex 0.25mg eod
wk14-18/19 PCT Clomid 50mg ed and tamox 20mg ed

^ simple and effective : )
 
Saiyan7 said:
Test cyp or enan at 300mg per week. All you need for a first cycle. Make sure you have a PCT set up as well.
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My man giving solid advice !! No need for fucking 500 mg on a first cycle

If ya can't get gains on 300 with ur diet and training then ur regimen sucks !!

But honestly at ur age I still have gas left i the tank to train with out test ! That's just my opinion.
 
wootoom said:
I totally disagree. Oral only cycles for a first cycle is not useless. Jesus, I love told this story a million times on here...the best (keep able) gains I've got was off 60-80mg of Var for 10 weeks. It built my base off this cycle. Especially when you are younger.
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Sup bitch 😜😜

I need that test with my var or else I feel like shit !! But I have known many that have had the same experience as you but the question is do they have legit var?!?!! .. U know my doc keeps that on tap for me right 😝 us Pharma var is the shit!!

But imo 300 mg test prop would be better than 60 mg var

But prop first cycle = pip like a muthafuka

That's just me though
 
Can anyone help me as well i'm looking to cycle test prop, deca and anavar. pct would be n2 guard. i'm sitting at 15% bf around 6ft tall and 84kgs.
i need suggestions on the dosage or any add ons.
advice would be appreciated.
thanks
 
Prop is a short ester. Deca is a long ester. It's usually best to put long with long and short with short.
So test cyp and deca works better or prop and npp.

Also n2g as a pct is absolutely ridiculous. You'll ruin yourself with a garbage pct like that. You need clomid and nolva as your pct.

How old are you? Let's straighten this stuff out for you.
 
shredzbrah said:
Can anyone help me as well i'm looking to cycle test prop, deca and anavar. pct would be n2 guard. i'm sitting at 15% bf around 6ft tall and 84kgs.

i need suggestions on the dosage or any add ons.

advice would be appreciated.

thanks
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Stats Please

everyone wants to leave out age and training history
 
20 is young bro. Most will try to persuade you away from aas at your age. If you are healthy your test should be high enough to make solid gains alone. You don't want to guck with your endocrine system and HPTA and all that.

Have you ran anything previously? Aas, PH, sarms? Anything?
 
I've ran test cyp and test 300 already. that was a bit fucked up cycle cuz i didn't know much about aas but i've pretty much kept my gains. Now i want to cycle with some more knowledge that's why i'm here. My test levels are normal now and thankfully no side effects whatsoever from the first cycle just a bit of acne.
 
Alright. Wel refer back to my last post where I talked about the esters and compounds bid say do a little research on each and when you think you have a set cycle, post it up and we'll fine tune it. If we just continue to say do this and take that, your knowledge base won't be built on your own. It's just better that way. Maybe some of the other guys have other stuff to say. But I think an understanding of each compound and why it stacks with another is an important base.
 
latino3001 said:
Age : 24
Weight : 85kg
Height: 178-9?
What other stats you want bud ? Well as summer is coming up , whatever really , if I can put a bit of size on in few months that would be ideal , if not , if you think cutting down would be better ?
Putting lean muscle on would be my ideal choice tho .
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what are you scared to inject? take some time and goggle glutes and delts shots. youtube and other places will tutor you step by step.Its easy as pie man, i used to be scared before my 1st shot and its nothing bro.Trust me
 
well so this is my cycle :

3500mg Testosterone Enanthate - 1ml/week for the 1st week and last (8th week) and 2ml/week throughout (2nd to 7th).

2000mg Deca - 200mg 1st week then 400mg 2nd and 3rd week then again 200mg/week ( 4th to 8th )

Anavar 10mg x 90 tabs - 20mg/day for week 1 and 2 then 30mg/day for week 3 and 4 then again 20mg/day for week 5 and 6

Nolvadex 10mg x 21 tabs - 10mg/day for week 4. 10mg/day for week 6 then 10mg/day for week 8

Proviron 25mg x 21 tabs - 25mg/day for week 3, week 5 and week 7

Clomid 50mg x 14 tabs - 50mg/day for week 11 and 12.


let me know if i can make any alterations to make it better. Thanks
 
Bro. You're 20. We can't really give you any advice. Except get your diet in check and lift a few more years naturally. The better natural base you have, the more you'll benefit from aas.
 
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but they say 21 is the age and i'm turning 21 in a few months and before that i want to prepare myself and the cycle. so i need advice bro
 
shredzbrah said:
well so this is my cycle :

3500mg Testosterone Enanthate - 1ml/week for the 1st week and last (8th week) and 2ml/week throughout (2nd to 7th).

2000mg Deca - 200mg 1st week then 400mg 2nd and 3rd week then again 200mg/week ( 4th to 8th )

Anavar 10mg x 90 tabs - 20mg/day for week 1 and 2 then 30mg/day for week 3 and 4 then again 20mg/day for week 5 and 6

Nolvadex 10mg x 21 tabs - 10mg/day for week 4. 10mg/day for week 6 then 10mg/day for week 8

Proviron 25mg x 21 tabs - 25mg/day for week 3, week 5 and week 7

Clomid 50mg x 14 tabs - 50mg/day for week 11 and 12.


let me know if i can make any alterations to make it better. Thanks
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This is just bad overall. Those are some crazy dosages like out of ur mind crazy. Pro bodybuilder do this if that. Keep it simple 500mg of test a week is plenty. With 300mg a week of tren. You will have better results. And pct needs work to. Don't this you will get messed up.
 
for_ever_beast said:
This is just bad overall. Those are some crazy dosages like out of ur mind crazy. Pro bodybuilder do this if that. Keep it simple 500mg of test a week is plenty. With 300mg a week of tren. You will have better results. And pct needs work to. Don't this you will get messed up.
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he set his cycle out shit but from what i read he mean 2000mg of deca the entire cycle...
 
shredzbrah said:
but they say 21 is the age and i'm turning 21 in a few months and before that i want to prepare myself and the cycle. so i need advice bro
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that is to heavy of a cycle for someone starting out at your age.Chill out a bit and take it slow
 
Okay, I'm 36yrs old 6'2" 217lbs. and want to start my first cycle. Please don't try and talk me out of it, because I'm very set on doing it. I'm just looking for some good advice on a few things.

1. I prefer just oral steroids and not sure how to go about purchasing them?

2. Not sure what test to start with or what to stack it with?

3. What can I take that's less risk of side effects?
 
Duckbig24 said:
Okay, I'm 36yrs old 6'2" 217lbs. and want to start my first cycle. Please don't try and talk me out of it, because I'm very set on doing it. I'm just looking for some good advice on a few things.

1. I prefer just oral steroids and not sure how to go about purchasing them?

2. Not sure what test to start with or what to stack it with?

3. What can I take that's less risk of side effects?
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Should have started your own thread

1. Oral only is a horrid idea, unless your looking to shut yourself down for no reason and make no gains, and we do not source talk or provide info about purchasing AAS on this forum, figure it out somewhere else.

2. Test enanthate

3. You use AI's and liver support to keep sides at bay from orals and synthetic testosterone. It's not what compounds give you what or less sides ( although for instance anadrol is a lot more toxic than anavar or tbol) but It's what you do to counteract the possible sides that can occur that matters.
 
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