Need dosage advice...

[Philly D]

Ok, so heres the deal. I have a bottle of Test Ethenate 250ml, and Winstrol 50ml. I was planning on running 400mg/week of test for 10 weeks. Running the winny at 50mg. for the last 4-5 weeks. The problem I have is I only have one bottle of the Test 250ml. SO I was wondering if this would be the best way to run it. For the first 3-4 weeks run like 150-200mg and then up the dosage to 250-350 for a few and so on. The ethenate is a long acting ester therefor it will not take its effect for about 3-4 weeks anyway. I have another bottle on order but don't know how long it will take to come in. Any advice would be great, for PCT I'm running HGC and Novla. My diet is in check for about 4 months now, taking in about 250 grams of protein and 4000-4500 calories a day. Mostly clean food as well. My goal is to increase upper body mass and keep as much of the gains as possible, my legs have always been in shape, I played basketball in college so I'm not so much worried about them. Still training them but actually wish they wouldn't get any bigger. and I have been training for about 3-4 years. I'm 24 5'11" 175-180 and about 13%bf. I have done a cycle previously of enantant250, and kept a good 8lbs. of muscle. I was only running 250mg a week, and I did not experience any sides at all. Just wondering what anyones take would be on this, i.e. anyone who has been is this situation before.

-Thanks

 

[ironclaw]

Ok, so heres the deal. I have a bottle of Test Ethenate 250ml, and Winstrol 50ml. I was planning on running 400mg/week of test for 10 weeks. Running the Winstrol - stanozolol at 50mg. for the last 4-5 weeks. The problem I have is I only have one bottle of the Test 250ml. SO I was wondering if this would be the best way to run it. For the first 3-4 weeks run like 150-200mg and then up the dosage to 250-350 for a few and so on. The ethenate is a long acting ester therefor it will not take its effect for about 3-4 weeks anyway. I have another bottle on order but don't know how long it will take to come in. Any advice would be great, for PCT - post cycle therapy - I'm running HGC and Novla. My diet is in check for about 4 months now, taking in about 250 grams of protein and 4000-4500 calories a day. Mostly clean food as well. My goal is to increase upper body mass and keep as much of the gains as possible, my legs have always been in shape, I played basketball in college so I'm not so much worried about them. Still training them but actually wish they wouldn't get any bigger. and I have been training for about 3-4 years. I'm 24 5'11" 175-180 and about 13%bf. I have done a cycle previously of enantant250, and kept a good 8lbs. of muscle. I was only running 250mg a week, and I did not experience any sides at all. Just wondering what anyones take would be on this, i.e. anyone who has been is this situation before.

-Thanks

my advice would be to wait until you get your next order of the other bottle of test, then start the cycle, at 400-500 mg ew. Do this to get the most out of your cycle, I wouldn't waist a shot on something like 100-150mg of test of week. start off strong, and finish strong. good luck...

 

[Philly D]

my advice would be to wait until you get your next order of the other bottle of test, then start the cycle, at 400-500 mg ew. Do this to get the most out of your cycle, I wouldn't waist a shot on something like 100-150mg of test of week. start off strong, and finish strong. good luck...

Thanks man, just say I didn't get the other bottle to come in, what do you think would be the best way to run what I have now??? Like I said I think I respond well to AS, so the lower dosage might provide me with the gains I'm looking for. Just wanted to see what the best way to run it if I did NOT get the other bottle.

-Thanks

 

[702daswoll1]

Bro dont waist your time with such low dosages. Keep the test around 4-500mg ew. Anything less is just maintenance or therapy.

 

[needtogetaas]

alway always wait...this is one of the best things you can do....when in doubt wait it out...half the problem with new members and people just starting the juice and even some people that have bin doing it a wile is they just dont wait...

wait for knowledge
wait for your aromatase inhibitor's
wait for the rest of your gear
wait till you have a full plain in place
and for god sake wait till your older

just wait more people

 

[gslben]

my advice would be to wait until you get your next order of the other bottle of test, then start the cycle, at 400-500 mg ew. Do this to get the most out of your cycle, I wouldn't waist a shot on something like 100-150mg of test of week. start off strong, and finish strong. good luck...

I'd imagine the same holds true for Test Prop?

Test is pretty much Test right?

Meaning 40mg's Avnavar ed and 100mg Prop ew would be a waste of the Test basically?

 

[Moris]

Ok, so heres the deal. I have a bottle of Test Ethenate 250ml, and Winstrol 50ml. I was planning on running 400mg/week of test for 10 weeks. Running the Winstrol - stanozolol at 50mg. for the last 4-5 weeks. The problem I have is I only have one bottle of the Test 250ml. SO I was wondering if this would be the best way to run it. For the first 3-4 weeks run like 150-200mg and then up the dosage to 250-350 for a few and so on. The ethenate is a long acting ester therefor it will not take its effect for about 3-4 weeks anyway. I have another bottle on order but don't know how long it will take to come in. Any advice would be great, for PCT - post cycle therapy - I'm running HGC and Novla. My diet is in check for about 4 months now, taking in about 250 grams of protein and 4000-4500 calories a day. Mostly clean food as well. My goal is to increase upper body mass and keep as much of the gains as possible, my legs have always been in shape, I played basketball in college so I'm not so much worried about them. Still training them but actually wish they wouldn't get any bigger. and I have been training for about 3-4 years. I'm 24 5'11" 175-180 and about 13%bf. I have done a cycle previously of enantant250, and kept a good 8lbs. of muscle. I was only running 250mg a week, and I did not experience any sides at all. Just wondering what anyones take would be on this, i.e. anyone who has been is this situation before.

-Thanks

250mg of testo would be enough, if cycle would be around 10-12 weeks, i think you can gain a preety good lean mass.

 

[Cal_21]

I'd imagine the same holds true for Test testosterone propionate?

Test is pretty much Test right?

Meaning 40mg's Avnavar ed and 100mg Prop ew would be a waste of the Test basically?

The var dosage sounds good.

 

[hyp1]

alway always wait...this is one of the best things you can do....when in doubt wait it out...half the problem with new members and people just starting the juice and even some people that have bin doing it a wile is they just dont wait...

wait for knowledge
wait for your aromatase inhibitor's
wait for the rest of your gear
wait till you have a full plain in place
and for god sake wait till your older

just wait more people

excellent post bro,I couldn't agree more

 

[advanced-stealth]

Agree very good advice^^^^

 

[Philly D]

Sorry, this is going to sound fucking dumb but when I got home last night I looked at the bottle and I have Test Ethenate but its a 20ml bottle "big one", this should be good enough to run 500mg for 10 weeks right. I didn't think I was that ignorant, but I should still have the other one on the way sometime. Anyway I don't mean to sound uneducated but I just want to get started, and I already have all my shit together for this cycle. I was planning on doing 2 shots/wk at 250mg. one on Mon. and one on Thurs. Then at week 6 start the Winstrol, I have a big bottle of Winstrol 50 from GA Labs. How much do you think I should run just to cut up at the end. i.e. how many shots/quantity per week? Then as i said before I have my PCT ready to go, Novla and HCG. I have read alot of the threads with cycles similar to this one but none are really to clear on the dosages and times for the most beneficial way to run it. If someone had great success with this please let me know how you ran it.

-thanks

 

[Papa Lion]

if this is your first cycle, just run the test, see how you get on... and if you want an addition save it for future cycles!! and yes 20ml's at twice a week is ten weeks!! mon thurs are some other variant of the same time length!!

 

[Philly D]

This is my second cycle, I did a run of Enantant250 about a 2 years ago. Got some good gains but I only ran 250mg a week. Do you really think the winstrol won't help me that much???? I've heard a lot of people on here speak highly of it, as long as it is run with a test base. I was really looking for someone who was previously on the same cycle and how they made out with the winstrol, i.e. did it make that much of a difference vs. a test only cycle??? Anyone???/

-Thanks

 

[Papa Lion]

never used winny and won't I've heard of alot of joint pain from it and I've got enough of that without any help!! but I've heard alot of folks that like it too!!

 

[mattdan]

Not to make a mountain out of a mole hill here, but I'm concerned that you originally said you have a 250 ml bottle of test, which there is no such thing - and a 50 ml bottle of winny - also no such thing, now it's a 20 ml bottle of test, which is correct. There are also other similar errors in your posts.

IMHO you're not quite ready. Spend AT LEAST 2 or 3 weeks on this board educating yourself before you start. Spend a few hours on this board educating yourself.

No offense bro, we just don't want any mistakes and I see numerous mistakes in your posts.

Good luck and take care.

 

[socket]

Not to make a mountain out of a mole hill here, but I'm concerned that you originally said you have a 250 ml bottle of test, which there is no such thing - and a 50 ml bottle of Winstrol - stanozolol - also no such thing, now it's a 20 ml bottle of test, which is correct. There are also other similar errors in your posts.

IMHO you're not quite ready. Spend AT LEAST 2 or 3 weeks on this board educating yourself before you start. Spend a few hours on this board educating yourself.

No offense bro, we just don't want any mistakes and I see numerous mistakes in your posts.

Good luck and take care.

FED ALERT, FED ALERT, TAKE COVER, CLEAN HOUSE, RUN, RUN, RUN

 

[Papa Lion]

Not to make a mountain out of a mole hill here, but I'm concerned that you originally said you have a 250 ml bottle of test, which there is no such thing - and a 50 ml bottle of Winstrol - stanozolol - also no such thing, now it's a 20 ml bottle of test, which is correct. There are also other similar errors in your posts.

IMHO you're not quite ready. Spend AT LEAST 2 or 3 weeks on this board educating yourself before you start. Spend a few hours on this board educating yourself.

No offense bro, we just don't want any mistakes and I see numerous mistakes in your posts.

Good luck and take care.

hahah... yeah I totally overlooked that!! good call!!

reminds me of this guy I know, a bouncer where I sometimes go shoot a lil pool. he's always talkin stories about when he and his brother were in HS same era as I was talkin about "when they had no top limit for the heavyweight class" I wrestled D1 and I know for a fact it's just bullshit, like most of his stories!! the guy spent over a G in GNC in a month's time!! I think he just likes to scatter the products around his house so he looks hardcore and hangs out ALOT in GNC just to chat it up with the pencil necked, right outta HS kids that work there (I know the manager from wrestling back in the day who told me that part). long story short he's always talkin about how many cycles he used to do!! (he's big, but it's a natural big, lumber jack style, not jacked!!) anyways he sees me and starts tellin me how he "just got 17 cycles of winny for 300 bucks!!" he doesn't know I juice and I was just laughin on the inside!! cause I'm pretty certain now that he believes an amp is a cycle!! sad really, but I just felt like sharing!!