Need advice for a cycle

[That 1 Guy]

Current weight 188lbs
Height 5'8"
Age 35
BF 18%
Lifting for 14 years

Diet has been on point before over the years and was done to 10% when I was around 30. Now I'm looking to do a cycle that will help me build a good amount of mass with little water and trim my body fat down to 10% again. I know diet is key and once I start I will start food prepping again and bumping up the cardio.

Have done a test e and eq stack in the past and had decent results but did very low test at only 400mg and eq at 300 due to past problems with gyno from prohormones in my past so I tried to avoid it. I took amirdex through out the whole cycle.

Thinking of running test e at 500 a week (pinning twice) with dbol to start it off and end with winny or doing test e and anavar only. Or possibly a tren cycle but I heard it's very strong.

Thanks for your help in advance.

 

[dylangemelli]

Bro I would be happy to set you up a cycle but your body fat is too high for steroids right now... You should start with sarms first and get yourself in the proper condition otherwise you are just going to hurt yourself. Read my articles on sarms here www.evolutionary.org/sarms. Let me know and I'll get you all set on a sarms stack


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[dylangemelli]

Also understand that steroids are not used to drop that drastic amount of body fat... They are not fat burners... Sarms can and most definitely will drop that fat while still preserving muscle... www.sarms1.com


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[EZ_E]

Your diet & cardio need to be on point LONG before any cycle

 

[That 1 Guy]

Wow I didn't know this forum is all about pushing your products. I know I have a few extra bf% then the recommended amount and it's not like I'm 25% bf but seriously I know I can drop at least a few % with the right guidance and most importantly diet.

 

[EZ_E]

Guide is what we do; what's your diet look like?

 

[dylangemelli]

Wow I didn't know this forum is all about pushing your products. I know I have a few extra bf% then the recommended amount and it's not like I'm 25% bf but seriously I know I can drop at least a few % with the right guidance and most importantly diet.

If you actually were in the right shape then I would have laid you out a cycle but YOUR NOT... Do whatever you want... That's the thanks I get for trying to keep you safe... You want to hurt yourself, go right ahead... I'm not losing sleep over someone being ungrateful as you are with your smart ass comments... Learn the hard way


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[ugotmale2day]

Haa.

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[Onedayafreak]

Get to 15% and cycle if you need to ask advice anyone would help. I was training 8 times a week when I jumped on at 20% and fried my CNS. I upped my mass by 20lbs and dropped 5% bodyfat in 14 weeks.
Needless to say I wouldn't advise it unless you are experienced. Which with your previous cycles aren't gyno problems you don't know how to manage the basics is what that tells everyone here.
I am prone to gyno and I get no problems because I know what I need to do. I also am not someone to follow either.

If you are gonna run a cycle.

400mg test e weeks 1 to 12
Don't bother with eq at 300mg don't bother with deca bf too High. You aren't ready for tren.

If you do something run test train hypertrophy 3 times a week 2 cardio sessions perweek including body circuit.

Ie. Push ups to step up high. Jumping jacks. Real stuff.

Run aromasin 12.5mg eod.
Have clomid ready for pct.
Hcgenerate or HCG. D aspartic acid on hand.. I hear the dasp chews these guys sell are good.

Keep it basic if you won't go without. Get to 15%

12 to 13% is better.
Then get these guys advices.

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[Onedayafreak]

Also with your bodyfat I bet your lipids are shot go get blood work done... regularly. 3months between unless the doctor says otherwise. I'd also see a cardiologist check your heart heslth I am about to in a few weeks and I'm in my early twenties. Best to he safe than sorry.

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[silent_revolver]

Wow I didn't know this forum is all about pushing your products. I know I have a few extra bf% then the recommended amount and it's not like I'm 25% bf but seriously I know I can drop at least a few % with the right guidance and most importantly diet.

The guys here are right that you wouldn't drop bf from a Test and dbol cycle, it will make dropping fat A LOT harder. Trust me, I started my current cycle at 18% and I am now down to around 14% after 7 weeks. But I am sure I would have lost fat quicker if I wasn't on Test. The water fluctuation will fuck with your head if cutting is your goal. Your diet has to be immaculate, which means no salt and carb cycling. There is truth in getting your bf below 15% before getting on gear.

That being said, you will do what you will do regardless. So here is a decent template

Cycle
Week 1 - 12Test E 300MG EW (pin 150 E3.5D)
Week 1-4; 8-12 Anavar 50-60mg daily

Ancillary
Aromasin 12.5mg EOD or Adex 0.5 EOD

Support
N2guard or Liv52, you need some kind of liver support for orals

PCT
Nolva 40/40/20/20
Clomid 50/25/25/25
You can try SARMS as part of PCT, I am doing Osta for the first time and will log my PCT here when it starts on 15th July.

Hope this helps

 

[Francofranco]

Get serious! It's ok to make your opinion but tread softly newb .

 

[That 1 Guy]

Thanks Dylan I understand we all need to make a buck. I appreciate everyone's input and feedback.

 

[That 1 Guy]

Thanks Oneadayfreak and Silent_revolver I agree and will drop down to below 15 before I start and will incorporate cardio twice a day early morning and afternoon once I finish lifting.

 

[hurricane]

Current weight 188lbs
Height 5'8"
Age 35
BF 18%
Lifting for 14 years

Diet has been on point before over the years and was done to 10% when I was around 30. Now I'm looking to do a cycle that will help me build a good amount of mass with little water and trim my body fat down to 10% again. I know diet is key and once I start I will start food prepping again and bumping up the cardio.

Have done a test e and eq stack in the past and had decent results but did very low test at only 400mg and eq at 300 due to past problems with gyno from prohormones in my past so I tried to avoid it. I took amirdex through out the whole cycle.

Thinking of running test e at 500 a week (pinning twice) with dbol to start it off and end with winny or doing test e and anavar only. Or possibly a tren cycle but I heard it's very strong.

Thanks for your help in advance.

they only steriod that is proven to add muscle and lose bf% at the same time is tren IMO.I am not sure of your experience level or how many cycles you have done to warrent tren use but that is the answer.

As far as product pushing.? i could see you complaining about someone advising sarms to you for seeking a large amount of muscle gain.But for body recomp effects, they are very effective and one of the top choices for people in higher bf levels. you are wrong!

 

[Shrine1]

Well Said Cane... Sarms are awesome for recomping and cutting fat safely. And if your body is within range(street your cycle), you can transition right into your AAS cycle of you choose. Perfect bridge IMO.

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[collateral74]

my current weight is 195
i'm 6'4
and body fat is between 10 and 15%
i have high blood pressure that is under control with medicine, thats why i'm nervous about taking anything.
i was thinking about doing a cycle of sarms and see how it goes before doing one of steroids.
can anybody help me? does sarms hurt your kidneys? will i need any form of pct? any other info would be great. thanks.