Nautilus Training Principles

[Y_lifter]

I don't at all agree with those principles but kindly explain what is wrong with fullbody routines 3X a week, B true?
-Zulu

I'm sure Bfold will have something to say but if I work ONE area HARD lets say Back or Legs on a Monday, I'm not ready to blast them again for at *Least* 3 days because I'm still sore.
With a 3 times a week split doing it all each day, I would not get enough rest between W/O's.

Most beginners are taught to do moderate whole body W/O's until they get the form down and the connective tissues are ready for a HEAVY INTENSE 3 or 4 day split.

Hit very hard seperate areas such as CHEST/TRI then BACK/BI then LEGS then SHOULDERS each on a seperate day of the week.

 

[b fold the truth]

I don't at all agree with those principles but kindly explain what is wrong with fullbody routines 3X a week, B true?

-Zulu

For starters, I don't know anyone who is a freak (in size or strength) that had trained their entire body 3x per week.

If I train my chest on Monday...it does not recover for atleast 4 days. How can I train it with only 2 days rest. I am a firm believer of training "balls to the wall" and if you take that notion about your training then you should not be able to train the entire body 3x per week.

If you are talking about using machines...that may be a different story...I'm not a machine fan at all...

B True

 

[ZZuluZ]

Neither am I.

I'm talking about NOT going balls to the wall. I don't believe in going to failure.

And I know of VERY VERY many people who have trained this way amongst them bodybuilding greats [pre steriod era].

-Zulu

 

[Thaibox]

Zulu doesn't believe in the fundamental principles of lifting. His 4 months of accumulated training wisdom has evelated him to a level of training which we mere mortals shall never partake.

Him and SSAlexSS

 

[ZZuluZ]

I don't believe in one routine as truth. I think many things will work as long as variables are tinkered with accordingly I also believe in periodization.

Kindly refrain from attacking me in threads where I am not addressing myself to you.

-Zulu

 

[b fold the truth]

Zulu doesn't believe in the fundamental principles of lifting. His 4 months of accumulated training wisdom has evelated him to a level of training which we mere mortals shall never partake.

Him and SSAlexSS

Don't know if you are describing ZZulu accurately or not...but I know that this is exactly the way I feel about a lot of people who give advice. I have trained for 9 years, hard, and hard core. I still don't feel that science "smarts" (lol) can replace work done on the field.

Balls to the wall doesn't have to be to failure...

B True

 

[ZZuluZ]

You think training 3X a week fullbody is unproductive?

THEN EXPLAIN WHY.

Bfold, because you're a strongman competitor and have trained for 9 years, you expect people to blindly follow your advice?

You don't have to respect me....but you really should respect people with degrees in science and who take a scientifical approach to lifting.

The way you train is a spinoff of WestSide based on the conjugated method by Vladimir Zatziorski and his research. Of course, you think he's nothing but a pencil neck geek, but without him you wouldn't be as strong as you are today.

I can't believe I have to explain this in every fucking thread.

-Zulu

 

[Needhelp]

So, this is no good?

I was reading about the Colorado Experiment and someone gained like 60+lbs of lean muscle on this type of routine in only 28 days.....

 

[MarshallPenniford]

That's a great routine. These days I'm having a hard time not going to the gym every day. I'm doing 3-4 days a week full body. Nothing wrong with it at all.

These guys who train less frequently, naturally get more sore, and so they feel that raining more frequently is an impossibility. It's not.

I don't think that there is anything wrong with 1 or 2 times a week, you just won't gain as fast IMO. But yes, you have to keep it a notch lower on the "intensity" as people would call it (misuse of the word though).

 

[Needhelp]

I thought I would gain faster on this type of a routine than a normal 1 body part each week split..especially since i'm a beginner.. then when the 10 weeks is up, go to a normal routine...

I was just looking for some different type of stuff.. I see a lot of people who do the normal shit, and don't get any results...