Natural....or not?

[Cheetarah]

Hey, since you all were checking out femalemuscle.com, I must tell you that one of my good friends is featured on there. She is who really inspired me to get serious into bodybuilding. I first saw her in the gym we both work out in and when I did, I looked at my husband and said, "now that's what I want to look like"! Altho I actually prefer the way she looks outside of competition, at 11-12% body fat. Anyway, I finally got a chance to go up to her one day and talk to her and we've been friends ever since! And she's totally natural. Check her out at: http://www.femalemuscle.com/homegrown/adrienne_holmes/index.html

Oh, and she is the third one from the left in the group photos.

 

[KEL]

I've been getting the distinct feeling recently that I should just keep my thoughts to myself.
THIS was my point - BTW
"I just wanted to start a little debate regarding what a female can achieve without AS.... "

I think it was a great idea VDL- I still don't understand why people deny use of "supplements and gear". It's your body, your decision right? I crossed that bridge once and I have stated that I changed my mind. I am not ready.
We all know how petty, catty and jealous women can be and as luck would have it this is a board made up of primarily women. This is NOT the Junior League this is a pro anabolic steroid web site. Be happy for others in their accomplishments. There is no need to be a self righteous bitch. This is not directed towards anyone just a general observation.

Dont worry VDL...Ive felt like that before on this board too....and then they wonder why the board is slow

You hit it on the nose! A big gold star for you!

 

[Rocket]

No
Maybe
No

But I like them all!

Rocket

 

[NY Muscle]

this is almost too easy.

yes all 3 on drugs.

 

[Debu]

this is almost too easy.

yes all 3 on drugs.

That's what I'm saying, but that's because I'm one of those natural jealous chicks who don't look that good!

 

[NY Muscle]

That's what I'm saying, but that's because I'm one of those natural jealous chicks who don't look that good!

dont be so hard on urself debu...its just too easy to tell, it beyond obvios they are on some type of juice....ur a big lil bitch urself so dont sweat it

 

[VeggieLifterChick]

1) Absolutely definitely without a doubt a juicer.
2) Could be attained naturally.
3) Can't tell...

 

[VooDoo Lady]

 

[thebabydoc]

vdl:
On second look, I could have left out the first 3 lines since I got to my real point right below it. Instead, and they came across as "who gives a fuck VDL, why are you posting this?"- I'm sorry. I misread the intent of the thread and some of the responses and I apologize; it was just a knee-jerk reaction to previous threads where everyone is all arguing about whether or not women should be using steroids. I have deleted my post and humbly ask for your forgiveness.

As for women who use gear, so long as they know and accept the side effects I have listed, it's their business. I feel it is a foolish decision, and I fear it may be a symptom of of some other underlying pathology but it is their choice, just as plastic surgery is. Clearly there are size benefits that cannot be achieved without steroids.

 

[MS]

On closer inspection (my first inspection was a flying 2 second scan at work) I agree that there is no way number 1 could be natty (meaning free of AAS abuse for thebabydoc). I think the original question is a good and valid question. I think it's just as bad that some women have to deny some of the supplements they use (because of legal issues) as some women will deny that they've had platic surgery. But as I've said in another post, just because they COULD have achieved that look naturally doesn't mean they did. In fact. I'll bet they have all used ergogenic aids, including AAS or hGH or insulin. They will have also used ECA/clen/T3 etc.....not because they HAD to, but because it makes the whole process easier. Most people do not have the patience and tenacity of a Vulcan (may you live long and prosper WarLobo).

Personally I find it more informative to find out what these women looked like BEFORE they took up bodybuilding. This will almost always give you a very good idea of how much of their physique is due to genetics versus everything else.

Number 2 looks divine and I don't care what she took or what kind of surgery she's had! And NO I don't have a fettish for firemen........