Nanotech Food - Color Me Paranoid but I Find This Disturbing

[musclemom]

Perhaps this does not disturb you, you hail the new advances in food technology and breakthroughs as achievements that can only enhance human life. From my perspective, our bodies evolved utilizing certain elements found in certain expected molecular forms, and evolving to utilize other molecules is something that takes thousands, if not, more years. The idea of consuming, particularly unknowingly, something that is actually small enough to cross the blood/brain barrier is really, really disturbing. The fact the FDA busts down on herbs, which have been around since time began, but turns a blind eye to this development smacks of everything from cronyism to conspiracy.

And before you ask, no, I don't like GMO foods, either. Hybridization I have no problem with, that at least doesn't introduce unnatural DNA (or screw with our DNA). I'm sorry, why is it like over 95% of industrialized nations won't have anything to do with fluoride, GMOs and now nanotech foods, and yet America, we'll swallow anything they shove at us? Maybe that's why people are so damn fat?

If you think something tiny can't possible hurt you, pay particular attention to the first article. Asbestos fibers are small, too, you feel like snorting a microgram of that a day? Viruses, those are small, too. Food is hugely important to a lot of us, in a weird way more so than the average person, and supplements another, it's just something to consider. From my perspective, something that is so molecularly small that our bodies are incapable of detoxifying it, is horrifying. For the readers among you, that's how a lot of Robin Cook novels start out, ain't it?

Part one of a three part series:
Amid Nanotechnology's Dazzling Promise, Health Fears Grow - AOL News

(March 24) -- For almost two years, molecular biologist Bénédicte Trouiller doused the drinking water of scores of lab mice with nano-titanium dioxide, the most common nanomaterial used in consumer products today.

She knew that earlier studies conducted in test tubes and petri dishes had shown the same particle could cause disease. But her tests at a lab at UCLA's School of Public Health were in vivo -- conducted in living organisms -- and thus regarded by some scientists as more relevant in assessing potential human harm.

Halfway through, Trouiller became alarmed: Consuming the nano-titanium dioxide was damaging or destroying the animals' DNA and chromosomes. The biological havoc continued as she repeated the studies again and again. It was a significant finding: The degrees of DNA damage and genetic instability that the 32-year-old investigator documented can be "linked to all the big killers of man, namely cancer, heart disease, neurological disease and aging," says Professor Robert Schiestl, a genetic toxicologist who ran the lab at UCLA's School of Public Health where Trouiller did her research.

Part two:
Nanotechnology Bringing Foods, Regulated or Not, to Grocery Near You - AOL News

Part three:
Obsession With Nanotechnology Growth Stymies Regulators - AOL News

 

[Captain FT]

Perhaps this does not disturb you, you hail the new advances in food technology and breakthroughs as achievements that can only enhance human life. From my perspective, our bodies evolved utilizing certain elements found in certain expected molecular forms, and evolving to utilize other molecules is something that takes thousands, if not, more years. The idea of consuming, particularly unknowingly, something that is actually small enough to cross the blood/brain barrier is really, really disturbing. The fact the FDA busts down on herbs, which have been around since time began, but turns a blind eye to this development smacks of everything from cronyism to conspiracy.

And before you ask, no, I don't like GMO foods, either. Hybridization I have no problem with, that at least doesn't introduce unnatural DNA (or screw with our DNA). I'm sorry, why is it like over 95% of industrialized nations won't have anything to do with fluoride, GMOs and now nanotech foods, and yet America, we'll swallow anything they shove at us? Maybe that's why people are so damn fat?

If you think something tiny can't possible hurt you, pay particular attention to the first article. Asbestos fibers are small, too, you feel like snorting a microgram of that a day? Viruses, those are small, too. Food is hugely important to a lot of us, in a weird way more so than the average person, and supplements another, it's just something to consider. From my perspective, something that is so molecularly small that our bodies are incapable of detoxifying it, is horrifying. For the readers among you, that's how a lot of Robin Cook novels start out, ain't it?

Part one of a three part series:
Amid Nanotechnology's Dazzling Promise, Health Fears Grow - AOL News



Part two:
Nanotechnology Bringing Foods, Regulated or Not, to Grocery Near You - AOL News

Part three:
Obsession With Nanotechnology Growth Stymies Regulators - AOL News

Good read. That stuff is absolutely scary. Advances in technology are great, but I see them doing more harm than good. I don't like things interfering with natural selection.

After reading the Paleo Diet for Athletes I've started trying to go back to a more caveman type diet, its what are genetics have been programmed for over thousands of years.

Conversely though I think we will start to be grateful when these little nano-buggers can seek and destroy viruses and we're finally able to cure some debilitating diseases or repair nerve cells and reverse paralysis. Take the good with the bad I guess.

 

[nefertiti]

Good read. That stuff is absolutely scary. Advances in technology are great, but I see them doing more harm than good. I don't like things interfering with natural selection.

After reading the Paleo Diet for Athletes I've started trying to go back to a more caveman type diet, its what are genetics have been programmed for over thousands of years.

Conversely though I think we will start to be grateful when these little nano-buggers can seek and destroy viruses and we're finally able to cure some debilitating diseases or repair nerve cells and reverse paralysis. Take the good with the bad I guess.

I guess you never saw the outer limits where the nanobots went nuts and started doing things like maing eyes grow in the back of a guys head, giving him gills, and other "improvements?" haha

 

[musclemom]

Good read. That stuff is absolutely scary. Advances in technology are great, but I see them doing more harm than good. I don't like things interfering with natural selection.

After reading the Paleo Diet for Athletes I've started trying to go back to a more caveman type diet, its what are genetics have been programmed for over thousands of years.

Conversely though I think we will start to be grateful when these little nano-buggers can seek and destroy viruses and we're finally able to cure some debilitating diseases or repair nerve cells and reverse paralysis. Take the good with the bad I guess.

I have no problem with that sort of utlization of nanotechnology. I think it's brilliant, but the concept of this technology purposely being released into everyday items and foods, uncontrolled, unmonitored, that is just irresponsible.

I don't get it. People rant and rave and make death threats about something like the health care bill, but fluoride, GMO foods, they don't blink an eye. This is going into your body and you don't question it?!?

I don't understand that mindset.

 

[RottenWillow]

I have no problem with that sort of utlization of nanotechnology. I think it's brilliant, but the concept of this technology purposely being released into everyday items and foods, uncontrolled, unmonitored, that is just irresponsible.

I don't get it. People rant and rave and make death threats about something like the health care bill, but fluoride, GMO foods, they don't blink an eye. This is going into your body and you don't question it?!?

I don't understand that mindset.

and chlorine. At least that one is very easily neutralized by plain old ascorbic acid if you want to drink or soak in tap water.

difference is media type, MM. People have this dire misconception that if it is important it will be a big headline story. It not, then it cannot be that serious an issue, right?

 

[musclemom]

and chlorine. At least that one is very easily neutralized by plain old ascorbic acid if you want to drink or soak in tap water.

difference is media type, MM. People have this dire misconception that if it is important it will be a big headline story. It not, then it cannot be that serious an issue, right?

I do not tolerate chlorine. If I'm in an environment where it is in high concentrations (like an indoor pool or even if it's being used in the laundry) it makes me ill (breathing it makes me, like, high, I get loopy and giddy, if it's really thick then I'll start to gag and retch, same if I get in a swimming pool and get the water in my mouth). We have water filters on the tap and shower so I've totally forgotten about that poison.

You're absolutely right, RW.

There's a part of me that would like to save the world, but another part of me is going "Fuck the world, just focus on saving yourself and Mr. Musclemom and screw everyone else because between the pharmaceutical industry, chemical companies, nanotechnology and gene manipulation there is a huge but quiet move by the pharmaceutical industry and the govt. to give everyone multiple sclerosis (or some other chronic autoimmune disorder) diabetes, high blood pressure and curable cancers that will just keep the money rolling in."

 

[trex74]

personally, I am not down with any of it. it's too freakin small, and i don't like these "advances".
my love of food-related technology ends with the concept of refrigeration


this is the latest news from Canada, a bill has just been put before Parliament to insure regulation before being passed down to the consumer.

C-494

it'll take a while for it to wind it's way through Parliament though

the press release can be found within this page: LEGISINFO - The Library of Parliament's research tool for finding information on legislation

 

[mrplunkey]

Shhhh... We've delegated all this type of thinking to the good hands of FDA, EPA and the other branches of our wonderful government. If they're A-ok with it, we should all get with the program.

 

[musclemom]

Shhhh... We've delegated all this type of thinking to the good hands of FDA, EPA and the other branches of our wonderful government. If they're A-ok with it, we should all get with the program.

I've given up on our government, it's a mess. Apparently nobody's ethical standards can withstand the lure of money and more power.

Frankly, I believe certain things (clean water, education, health care) SHOULD be our rights as citizens, not priveleges, and I don't mind paying the tax for it. Ask the Swedish, they don't mind! I'd fucking move there if they'd have me.

I really do think Monsanto is out to give us all chronic illnesses and they're paying off the FDA and EPA to do it.

 

[chris302001]

can somebody pass me the tinfoil?