MyoGenX Result Thread

[justinjones1963]

I decided to order some MyoGenX since reading the article by GS.

I should have it in by Friday which will be day 21 into my PCT.

My cycle was 250mg sus M/Th & EQ 600mg week.

I had to cut the cycle down on week 6 due to an injury. I am currently running AIFM and have been fine but I did have slight testicle shrinkage. My libido has been fine but I have been a little sluggish. Especially today. I am working long hours and getting little sleep (finals in three weeks) so that is an additional factor to take into condieration so I am attributing the lethargy to my scheudle.

I will take one tab three times per day as directed on the bottle and post results. Since I am not hitting the gym this is an additional factor to take into consideration. Nevertheless, I will post results on how it effects my energy and mental levels. Hopefully it will charge me up going into the final run of this semester.

 

[gettnlarge01]

Looks like a good product.Keep us posted.

 

[jronimoe15]

Looks like a good product.Keep us posted.

i'm looking forward to tracking your progress.........thanks for being the guinea pig.

 

[Big Rick Rock]

I started taking mines today too.
I haven't juiced in months so I'm not crashing or anything. Lets see what it does for me.




-BRR

 

[ProtienFiend]

subscribed

 

[Big Rick Rock]

Ok, the study on this stuff was done over a 5 –day period if I read the thing right. So by the 3rd day I should have something…

This is where I started:
I haven’t juiced in months, came off my last cycle with proper PCT. No problems at all since then. Got blood work two months ago for a physical, everything was A OK… Body is running fine, back to it’s default settings.

So I’m not crashing OR Juicing. I’m “Natural”, I’m not sure if I’m be best candidate for this. But AR caught my attention with this.

So far I have taken 8 caps in the three days. (3 – 3- 2 (one for later)…

I have to say quite honestly that it hasn’t been anything out of this world. I was a little more excited reading Anthony’s thread than after using the stuff…

I did notice yesterday and today I have been thinking about sex a bit more, getting turned on thru memory or visual input, a lot easier than usual(I don’t know how else to put it)… I’m not sure if it is doing anything for the mechanics (why mess with perfection). Performance and feel wise,, everything seems the same, my old lady was pleased as always. . My morning wood was traditional, acrobatics at the latrine, nothing different. . I don’t feel any different in that department.
I will admit that I do feel an increase in desire, I did wanted to “initiate” something this morning before work, but my girl wasn’t having it lol...
My desire was already pretty healthy to begin with. But still, it is a noticeable increase.

Aside from that… Nothing much else.

I’ll report as things happen.




-BRR

 

[ProtienFiend]

BRR, Anything different from lets say a Tribulus, Long jack, Avena Sativa, AIFM stack? (Assuming you've tried this).

PF

 

[gettinripped]

Ok, the study on this stuff was done over a 5 –day period if I read the thing right. So by the 3rd day I should have something…

This is where I started:
I haven’t juiced in months, came off my last cycle with proper PCT. No problems at all since then. Got blood work two months ago for a physical, everything was A OK… Body is running fine, back to it’s default settings.

So I’m not crashing OR Juicing. I’m “Natural”, I’m not sure if I’m be best candidate for this. But AR caught my attention with this.

So far I have taken 8 caps in the three days. (3 – 3- 2 (one for later)…

I have to say quite honestly that it hasn’t been anything out of this world. I was a little more excited reading Anthony’s thread than after using the stuff…

I did notice yesterday and today I have been thinking about sex a bit more, getting turned on thru memory or visual input, a lot easier than usual(I don’t know how else to put it)… I’m not sure if it is doing anything for the mechanics (why mess with perfection). Performance and feel wise,, everything seems the same, my old lady was pleased as always. . My morning wood was traditional, acrobatics at the latrine, nothing different. . I don’t feel any different in that department.
I will admit that I do feel an increase in desire, I did wanted to “initiate” something this morning before work, but my girl wasn’t having it lol...
My desire was already pretty healthy to begin with. But still, it is a noticeable increase.

Aside from that… Nothing much else.

I’ll report as things happen.




-BRR

BRR, you gonna get any bloodwork to see if in fact your test levels do or did go up??

 

[Anthony Roberts]

Ok, the study on this stuff was done over a 5 –day period if I read the thing right. So by the 3rd day I should have something…

This is where I started:
I haven’t juiced in months, came off my last cycle with proper PCT. No problems at all since then. Got blood work two months ago for a physical, everything was A OK… Body is running fine, back to it’s default settings.

So I’m not crashing OR Juicing. I’m “Natural”, I’m not sure if I’m be best candidate for this. But AR caught my attention with this.

So far I have taken 8 caps in the three days. (3 – 3- 2 (one for later)…

I have to say quite honestly that it hasn’t been anything out of this world. I was a little more excited reading Anthony’s thread than after using the stuff…

I did notice yesterday and today I have been thinking about sex a bit more, getting turned on thru memory or visual input, a lot easier than usual(I don’t know how else to put it)… I’m not sure if it is doing anything for the mechanics (why mess with perfection). Performance and feel wise,, everything seems the same, my old lady was pleased as always. . My morning wood was traditional, acrobatics at the latrine, nothing different. . I don’t feel any different in that department.
I will admit that I do feel an increase in desire, I did wanted to “initiate” something this morning before work, but my girl wasn’t having it lol...
My desire was already pretty healthy to begin with. But still, it is a noticeable increase.

Aside from that… Nothing much else.

I’ll report as things happen.

-BRR

This is the kind of thing that basically 100% of the MyoGenX users have reported within the first few days of taking. Everyone is reporting increased desire, increased libido, etc...

I think that it's fair to say that the effects are noticable within the first week. Now, the thing about this product is, it holds up it's end of things (increasing testosterone)...now, it's up to the user to do the right thing in the gym and in the kitchen to get the anabolic effects o this increase in testosterone.

 

[Big Rick Rock]

BRR, you gonna get any bloodwork to see if in fact your test levels do or did go up??

Little too late for me. I already started taking the stuff, so I wouldn't have a baseline reading.


I'm just reporting how I "feel" on MoyGenX. I'm just reporting MY experience on it, nothing else.





-BRR

 

[T-Matt]

I decided to order some MyoGenX since reading the article by GS.

I should have it in by Friday which will be day 21 into my PCT.

My cycle was 250mg sus M/Th & EQ 600mg week.

I had to cut the cycle down on week 6 due to an injury. I am currently running AIFM and have been fine but I did have slight testicle shrinkage. My libido has been fine but I have been a little sluggish. Especially today. I am working long hours and getting little sleep (finals in three weeks) so that is an additional factor to take into condieration so I am attributing the lethargy to my scheudle.

I will take one tab three times per day as directed on the bottle and post results. Since I am not hitting the gym this is an additional factor to take into consideration. Nevertheless, I will post results on how it effects my energy and mental levels. Hopefully it will charge me up going into the final run of this semester.

Awesome man thanks for the log! Please post daily updates! Thanks

T-Matt

 

[Anthony Roberts]

How's it working, BRR? Any updates for us?

 

[redsamurai]

this might be good to throw in with some IGF for PCT.....?

 

[Big Rick Rock]

How's it working, BRR? Any updates for us?

I'm too busy humping to post up a review. LOL
My sex drive has increased even more since the last time I posted about the product. I'm starting to notice SOME effect on the mechanics. It is now taking me a good bit more effort(and time) to "finish" than a week ago. It seems to have also put a little more lead in my pencil. I'll do a full report tomorrow when I get a few minutes.





-BRR

 

[justinjones1963]

I'm too busy humping to post up a review. LOL
My sex drive has increased even more since the last time I posted about the product. I'm starting to notice SOME effect on the mechanics. It is now taking me a good bit more effort(and time) to "finish" than a week ago. It seems to have also put a little more lead in my pencil. I'll do a full report tomorrow when I get a few minutes.

-BRR

Good deal - keep us updated.

I am still waiting for my order to come in.

 

[Big Rick Rock]

Full report. My 5-day MyoGenX trial.



Day-1

Nothing eventful. I did notice a feeling of “discomfort” come on about 15-20mins after I took the first capsule. I had a bit of a headache and my ears got warm. It went away as quickly, like 5mins after it started. I experienced the same thing with the second capsules and third. But the discomfort was less each time. A guess off the top of my head is the Zinc in the formula gave me a reaction. Who knows.




Day-2

I did not have any feelings of discomfort after ingesting the capsules like on day-1. I did notice I woke up a little more excited than usual, and I did catch myself looking at women on the street a little more than usual… All in all, I was just feeling a bit hornier.



Day-3

Woke up with a major wood, feeling very aroused. I could get my girl to cooperate with me in the morning, but I still beat it in 2x after work, and 1x before sleep. Just felt good and fired up the whole day.




Day-4

I woke up early hard as a rock, had to damn near do a hand stand to take a simple piss. My morning wood lasted a good bit longer than usual, I was able to get my girl to give me some early morning loving. It took me a good while to finish even though I wanted to end things quickly and head to work… I just couldn’t.
My erection lasted a good while longer after sex and I still had a “semi” by the time I was walking out of the shower. Had some spontaneous erections show thought the day. Desire was still very strong


Day-5


Only took the morning pill and skipped the rest. Quite honestly, I don’t really need a libido boost right now. It is holiday season, I have a lot on my plate professionally and personally. Too much to be preoccupied with getting home to have sex. So I decided to discontinue using it for now and save the rest to use for PCT....



My conclusion:

MyoGenX works well at increasing libido and quite nicely too. The increase in libido was slightly noticeable on the second day and very pronounced by third day. I noticed some slight change in the mechanics by the fourth day.
I discontinued use after the 5th day.


Did it raise my Test levels by 200%?

I don’t know because I did not do any blood tests.

But I did experience the same effects I have while injecting testosterone. Although some compounds can give you an increase in sex drive and performance, without actually raising your test levels… There is a study to back the claims that it raises test levels by 200%. So I guess it is up to each person to decide what is what…

 

[T-Matt]

Full report. My 5-day MyoGenX trial.



Day-1

Nothing eventful. I did notice a feeling of “discomfort” come on about 15-20mins after I took the first capsule. I had a bit of a headache and my ears got warm. It went away as quickly, like 5mins after it started. I experienced the same thing with the second capsules and third. But the discomfort was less each time. A guess off the top of my head is the Zinc in the formula gave me a reaction. Who knows.




Day-2

I did not have any feelings of discomfort after ingesting the capsules like on day-1. I did notice I woke up a little more excited than usual, and I did catch myself looking at women on the street a little more than usual… All in all, I was just feeling a bit hornier.



Day-3

Woke up with a major wood, feeling very aroused. I could get my girl to cooperate with me in the morning, but I still beat it in 2x after work, and 1x before sleep. Just felt good and fired up the whole day.




Day-4

I woke up early hard as a rock, had to damn near do a hand stand to take a simple piss. My morning wood lasted a good bit longer than usual, I was able to get my girl to give me some early morning loving. It took me a good while to finish even though I wanted to end things quickly and head to work… I just couldn’t.
My erection lasted a good while longer after sex and I still had a “semi” by the time I was walking out of the shower. Had some spontaneous erections show thought the day. Desire was still very strong


Day-5


Only took the morning pill and skipped the rest. Quite honestly, I don’t really need a libido boost right now. It is holiday season, I have a lot on my plate professionally and personally. Too much to be preoccupied with getting home to have sex. So I decided to discontinue using it for now



My conclusion:

MyoGenX works well at increasing libido and quite nicely too. The increase in libido was slightly noticeable on the second day and very pronounced by third day. I noticed some slight change in the mechanics by the fourth day.
I discontinued use after the 5th day.


Did it raise my Test levels by 200%?

I don’t know because I did not do any blood tests.

But I did experience the same effects I have while injecting testosterone. Although some compounds can give you an increase in sex drive and performance, without actually raising your test levels… There is a study to back the claims that it raises test levels by 200%. So I guess it is up to each person to decide what is what…

Thanks for the feedback bro!

I get the same side effects from MT-2, proviron, and injecting test.. If it does actually increase test levels by 200% I just might have to buy it.. I still want more feedback before i purchase..

Again, feed back appreciated, K to you for posting

T-Matt

 

[ProtienFiend]

If it works in 4 days he should send out samples with enough for 4 days. That would be cheap and would definitely cause people to buy it... that is, if it does indeed work as BRR states.

 

[njmuscleguy]

I decided to order some MyoGenX since reading the article by GS.

I should have it in by Friday which will be day 21 into my PCT.

My cycle was 250mg sus M/Th & EQ 600mg week.

I had to cut the cycle down on week 6 due to an injury. I am currently running AIFM and have been fine but I did have slight testicle shrinkage. My libido has been fine but I have been a little sluggish. Especially today. I am working long hours and getting little sleep (finals in three weeks) so that is an additional factor to take into condieration so I am attributing the lethargy to my scheudle.

I will take one tab three times per day as directed on the bottle and post results. Since I am not hitting the gym this is an additional factor to take into consideration. Nevertheless, I will post results on how it effects my energy and mental levels. Hopefully it will charge me up going into the final run of this semester.

update?

 

[njmuscleguy]

so for those whose PCT is failing them, and both the AM Dbol method and this MyoGenx are options.... which to choose?

 

[Big Rick Rock]

so for those whose PCT is failing them, and both the AM Dbol method and this MyoGenx are options.... which to choose?

Both?




-BRR

 

[Wax-on]

Hey all,
I prefere to read rather than post on here however I ordered 2 bottles and they arrived yesterday. Most importantly, I had my test levels checked several weeks ago and will get levels checked again upon completeion of bottle 1, then again on completion of bottle 2. I will post pre suppliment test levels, 1 month in on MayoGenX, then 2 months in. Hope this will offer you guys some assistance. For your information I have never hit anything anabolic so this will be a true recordiing.
Regards.

 

[MorganKane]

Hey all,
I prefere to read rather than post on here however I ordered 2 bottles and they arrived yesterday. Most importantly, I had my test levels checked several weeks ago and will get levels checked again upon completeion of bottle 1, then again on completion of bottle 2. I will post pre suppliment test levels, 1 month in on MayoGenX, then 2 months in. Hope this will offer you guys some assistance. For your information I have never hit anything anabolic so this will be a true recordiing.
Regards.

Great, looking forward to see the result.
By the way, this is what companies do before they release a product.
They do some human research including a double blind study but in this case the "inventor" did not even try it himself. I find this funny.

 

[ProtienFiend]

so for those whose PCT is failing them, and both the AM Dbol method and this MyoGenx are options.... which to choose?

AM Dbol is not true PCT and is actually the opposite.

 

[Big Rick Rock]

Hey all,
I prefere to read rather than post on here however I ordered 2 bottles and they arrived yesterday. Most importantly, I had my test levels checked several weeks ago and will get levels checked again upon completeion of bottle 1, then again on completion of bottle 2. I will post pre suppliment test levels, 1 month in on MayoGenX, then 2 months in. Hope this will offer you guys some assistance. For your information I have never hit anything anabolic so this will be a true recordiing.
Regards.

Thanx for testing out the stuff.

I hope that some of the bros that have been around longer would post their results. A lot of people will have a hard time taking the word of somebody who signed up 3 months ago like Wax-on .




-BRR

 

[missionpossible]

I am interested too in seeing more of the bros that have been around for awhile to try this stuff out.

I'm really skeptical that this was brought to market without significant human testing. Its suprising that Anthoney Roberts wont kick out a handfull of this product on each of the boards he is touting his wares on for some testing. After all, Tribulis will and does increase libido, but for about 10 to 15 bucks a bottle!

 

[Big Rick Rock]

I am interested too in seeing more of the bros that have been around for awhile to try this stuff out.

I'm really skeptical that this was brought to market without significant human testing. Its suprising that Anthoney Roberts wont kick out a handfull of this product on each of the boards he is touting his wares on for some testing. After all, Tribulis will and does increase libido, but for about 10 to 15 bucks a bottle!

I know what you are saying.
We'll see what they do later. From what PF told GS and Myself. They had a limited amount of bottles they could make this run. I'm sure they'll come thru with some freebies later... Last month D-Blade gave 100 FREE 30-Day samples to our Platinum mebers. I'm sure I'll get some free bottles from PF for you guys... I always give preference to our Plat members. I'll pull for our Plats and try to get them some thing similar from PF/MoyGenX come new year.


The D-Blade sample give away whent great. this is what some of our Plat members posted in the Plat forum:


PS: One of our members "perp69" had this to say:

Tried it for 3 weeks and it didn't do much for me. I gained maybe 4 lbs but that doesn't really amount to much in my book.

Perp

That is a typical Juicer answer. But for the guys here who can't afford to break the law... Steroids are not an option... 4lbs in Three weeks sounds fucking awesome.


Just imagine... Four Pounds of Steak under your skin....


And "1968Charger" had this to say:

well in 2 weeks i gained 4 lbs and my muscles are fuller and a friend of mine asked me if i was juiceing ,so it does work .i will keep younall posted when im done

He seems to think it worked for him too.


So for all you guys (Mostly: Refereal Monkey Juice Pushers) who talked Garbage about D-Blade as an acutal alternative to Steroids before you even knew anybody who used it...... The finger in the middle just stood up.








-BRR

 

[bw1]

I know what you are saying.
We'll see what they do later. From what PF told GS and Myself. They had a limited amount of bottles they could make this run. I'm sure they'll come thru with some freebies later... Last month D-Blade gave 100 FREE 30-Day samples to our Platinum mebers. I'm sure I'll get some free bottles from PF for you guys... I always give preference to our Plat members. I'll pull for our Plats and try to get them some thing similar from PF/MoyGenX come new year.


The D-Blade sample give away whent great. this is what some of our Plat members posted in the Plat forum:


PS: One of our members "perp69" had this to say:




That is a typical Juicer answer. But for the guys here who can't afford to break the law... Steroids are not an option... 4lbs in Three weeks sounds fucking awesome.


Just imagine... Four Pounds of Steak under your skin....


And "1968Charger" had this to say:






He seems to think it worked for him too.


So for all you guys (Mostly: Refereal Monkey Juice Pushers) who talked Garbage about D-Blade as an acutal alternative to Steroids before you even knew anybody who used it...... The finger in the middle just stood up.








-BRR

I'm game for some freebies

 

[Wax-on]

Thanx for testing out the stuff.

I hope that some of the bros that have been around longer would post their results. A lot of people will have a hard time taking the word of somebody who signed up 3 months ago like Wax-on .




-BRR

Hey Big Rick Rock,
I understand that my word and or results may not hold much weight here on this forum under this name. If it helps, I did have another username when I signed up back in 2002 N_F_C which is long gone. Recieved a fair amount of quality information from Huckleberry at that time (If you remember him?) BTW is he still here???. Either way, I will post results, take what you will from them.
Regards.

 

[Anthony Roberts]

I am interested too in seeing more of the bros that have been around for awhile to try this stuff out.

I'm really skeptical that this was brought to market without significant human testing. Its suprising that Anthoney Roberts wont kick out a handfull of this product on each of the boards he is touting his wares on for some testing. After all, Tribulis will and does increase libido, but for about 10 to 15 bucks a bottle!

I don't have anything to do with the marketing of the product, nor the testing, nor the sales. All I did was come up with the formula and go to Protein Factory to see if they were interested in producing it. I have Protein Factory handling the production and sales of the product, and a seperate marketing team handling the marketing for me. My involvement was strictly in the research and development. I'm sure if the people who handle marketing think that it's going to be beneficial to give away bottles of the stuff, then they'll do that. It's not my call. At this point, I'm involved in the continued research and development of this product and others, but not at all in the marketing, production, or sales. Sorry.

 

[ItalianMuscle27]

Could someone tell me the 5-7 main ingredients on this stuff, and what are their doses?? k for feedback..

 

[missionpossible]

I don't have anything to do with the marketing of the product, nor the testing, nor the sales. All I did was come up with the formula and go to Protein Factory to see if they were interested in producing it. I have Protein Factory handling the production and sales of the product, and a seperate marketing team handling the marketing for me. My involvement was strictly in the research and development. I'm sure if the people who handle marketing think that it's going to be beneficial to give away bottles of the stuff, then they'll do that. It's not my call. At this point, I'm involved in the continued research and development of this product and others, but not at all in the marketing, production, or sales. Sorry.

OK, I believe that Protein Factory is handling all of the aspects they can, but you have been marketing this product quite a bit on the boards. Having been involved in bringing products to market myself, I'm well aware that the more that is sold will benefit everyone involved including yourself so a few hundred bucks of good will likely benefit everyone including yourself in the long run. I wish the best for you on this, as I have found much of your information provided beneficial.

 

[digimon7068]

This is the kind of thing that basically 100% of the MyoGenX users have reported within the first few days of taking. Everyone is reporting increased desire, increased libido, etc...

I think that it's fair to say that the effects are noticable within the first week. Now, the thing about this product is, it holds up it's end of things (increasing testosterone)...now, it's up to the user to do the right thing in the gym and in the kitchen to get the anabolic effects o this increase in testosterone.

i'll be starting pct in about 3 weeks. . .would you advise adding this to my pct regimen??

 

[Anthony Roberts]

i'll be starting pct in about 3 weeks. . .would you advise adding this to my pct regimen??

Yes. I believe it's the best possible supplement to add into PCT.

 

[ItalianMuscle27]

Has there been any human testing on this product before it was released? Only studies I found were done on rats..

 

[Big Rick Rock]

Has there been any human testing on this product before it was released? Only studies I found were done on rats..

I think Anthony already talked about this.
The plant itself has been in use by humans before any of us were born.










-BRR

 

[ItalianMuscle27]

I think Anthony already talked about this.
The plant itself has been in use by humans before any of us were born.



-BRR

I understand the plant has been around quite awhile, but where are the studies or reports on humans at?? Why should members fork out money out of their own pockets and get there test levels checked frequently to see if this stuff is working or not? This should have been done by 100 or so males of all different ages during the human testing..

 

[Big Rick Rock]

I understand the plant has been around quite awhile, but where are the studies or reports on humans at?? Why should members fork out money out of their own pockets and get there test levels checked frequently to see if this stuff is working or not? This should have been done by 100 or so males of all different ages during the human testing..

Nobody is telling anybody to "fork" money over to get tested. Fadogia Agrestis as a Plant, has been used as a herbal medicine in Nigeria for ages to treat ED, The human testing of its safety and effectiveness has been going on for generations of people that have used this herb. Most people just buy it at the local market and dose the stuff themselves over there.
The Study on the rats wast just to find out HOW and WHY the plant had this effect on humans, NOT to determine if it worked. Fadogia's effectiveness has long been stablished already.




-BRR

 

[ItalianMuscle27]

Nobody is telling anybody to "fork" money over to get tested. Fadogia Agrestis as a Plant, has been used as a herbal medicine in Nigeria for ages to treat ED, The human testing of its safety and effectiveness has been going on for generations of people that have used this herb. Most people just buy it at the local market and dose the stuff themselves over there.
The Study on the rats wast just to find out HOW and WHY the plant had this effect on humans, NOT to determine if it worked. Fadogia's effectiveness has long been stablished already.




-BRR

I just find it amusing that in proteinfactory statements regarding myogenx, they are making it sound like AR discovered this miracle herb, when its been around for years. I am the biggest skeptic of herbs increasing libido.. I for one have tried numerous ones, and bottom line, they dont work. (Triebstan,etc) I even tried some sex stack from Impact Nutrition, and nothing happened. Waste of money.. Ive asked my personal doctor and an ED doctor, and they advised me, to not waste my money on fancy herbs and supplements.. Its all hype, just like everything else.. In a years time or less there will be another 'miracle herb' miraculously discovered to increase test levels and libido, or this myogenx will have some new forumula to make it 2 or 3x better than it was before..Sorry, I dont buy any of this..

 

[Anthony Roberts]

I just find it amusing that in proteinfactory statements regarding myogenx, they are making it sound like AR discovered this miracle herb, when its been around for years. I am the biggest skeptic of herbs increasing libido.. I for one have tried numerous ones, and bottom line, they dont work. (Triebstan,etc) I even tried some sex stack from Impact Nutrition, and nothing happened. Waste of money.. Ive asked my personal doctor and an ED doctor, and they advised me, to not waste my money on fancy herbs and supplements.. Its all hype, just like everything else.. In a years time or less there will be another 'miracle herb' miraculously discovered to increase test levels and libido, or this myogenx will have some new forumula to make it 2 or 3x better than it was before..Sorry, I dont buy any of this..

I would reccomend that you read all of the MyoGenX results from the users themselves (both here and on steroid.com) 100% of them have noticed an increase in libido.

As for not testing the product on Humans, since the herb has been used for decades safely already, we had no doubt that it will continue to be safe.

With regards to my not actually "discovering" the herb...I suppose that's true. I found out about the Herb from talking to a friend who has a radio show about performance enhancement, then I contacted the scientist who conducted the actual study and asked him some questions....finally, I decided that this particular herb would be a good thing to bring to the sports supplement market, and would be enhanced greatly by the addition of a couple more ingredients to the final formula. So no, while I wasn't out there in the Nigerian forest discovering herbs, I did hear about an herb that was totally unknown to the supplement industry, and I did contact the scientist and do my own research on it, ultimately developing the product that Protein Factory is now selling.

In the end, I brought a totally new supplement to the market, and one which is not and was not available ever before to the supplement market. I'm happy with that, and happy with the development and research that I did which ultimately led to this totally original and unique product being brought to the market.

 

[ortiz34]

Good info AR and BRR

 

[ItalianMuscle27]

I would reccomend that you read all of the MyoGenX results from the users themselves (both here and on steroid.com) 100% of them have noticed an increase in libido.

As for not testing the product on Humans, since the herb has been used for decades safely already, we had no doubt that it will continue to be safe.

With regards to my not actually "discovering" the herb...I suppose that's true. I found out about the Herb from talking to a friend who has a radio show about performance enhancement, then I contacted the scientist who conducted the actual study and asked him some questions....finally, I decided that this particular herb would be a good thing to bring to the sports supplement market, and would be enhanced greatly by the addition of a couple more ingredients to the final formula. So no, while I wasn't out there in the Nigerian forest discovering herbs, I did hear about an herb that was totally unknown to the supplement industry, and I did contact the scientist and do my own research on it, ultimately developing the product that Protein Factory is now selling.

In the end, I brought a totally new supplement to the market, and one which is not and was not available ever before to the supplement market. I'm happy with that, and happy with the development and research that I did which ultimately led to this totally original and unique product being brought to the market.

Ive read the feedback here, and on steroid.com, and Im still not convinced and probably never will be..

My concern with the human testing, if it supposibly increases test levels and libidio naturally, how about some documentation/tests to back it up instead of someones word?? For example, like I said before.. a study should have been done with 100 males ages 25-40(or whatever ages you wanted to use), with documentation/tests etc.. Proving this..

Its all in your head if you ask me.. This product is being hyped to promote increased libido and natural test levels.. The individual purchasing this, is excited, and probably is thinking about this more than normal. He is thinking about being aroused, sex, or whatever so much, he is starting to believe this product is working for him, and it has to be this herb giving him erections in the morning.. Im 35, and I have erections almost every morning, and I dont take any herbs or supplements..just a multi vitamin! I hope the end made some sense and you know where I am coming from..

That anabolic newsletter gets sent to my house every 2 or 3 months, and they always have some new gimic or some new supplment that increases test levels naturally.. I cant think of the new one off hand, but its way overpriced..

 

[Anthony Roberts]

Ive read the feedback here, and on steroid.com, and Im still not convinced and probably never will be..

Fair enough. But logically, don't you think that if 100% of the people who have tried my product are reporting a libido increase, there could be more to it than just a placeebo effect? And the fact that in animal studies, the primary ingredient in this product shows a substantial increase in Test levels...I mean...doesn't that strongly point to the validity and efficacy of the product?

 

[ItalianMuscle27]

Fair enough. But logically, don't you think that if 100% of the people who have tried my product are reporting a libido increase, there could be more to it than just a placeebo effect? And the fact that in animal studies, the primary ingredient in this product shows a substantial increase in Test levels...I mean...doesn't that strongly point to the validity and efficacy of the product?

Ive always believed anything is possible.. How many individuals are we talking about?? 10, 100, 200, 1000s? I cant take a study seriously with feedback from a dozen people on a public forum..I think your case would be so much better if human studies and tests could be performed over the coarse of a year or so, and than have some better feedback..What happens when you come off?? Is the stuff cycled?? Im just trying to get a better understanding of this herb thats all..

Dont get me wrong, Im all about wanting to make money, and I commend you for your efforts with giving people other options, but hyping up a herb thats been around for quite some time, Im skeptical.. I mean, how come scientists from well known supplement companies like Beverly, EAS, Metrx, Pinnacle, etc.. havent had this herb in any of their products?? It just seems strange to me.. If it was that good, you would think they would have capitalized on it..

 

[Big Rick Rock]

Ive always believed anything is possible.. How many individuals are we talking about?? 10, 100, 200, 1000s? I cant take a study seriously with feedback from a dozen people on a public forum..I think your case would be so much better if human studies and tests could be performed over the coarse of a year or so, and than have some better feedback..What happens when you come off?? Is the stuff cycled?? Im just trying to get a better understanding of this herb thats all..

Dont get me wrong, Im all about wanting to make money, and I commend you for your efforts with giving people other options, but hyping up a herb thats been around for quite some time, Im skeptical.. I mean, how come scientists from well known supplement companies like Beverly, EAS, Metrx, Pinnacle, etc.. havent had this herb in any of their products?? It just seems strange to me.. If it was that good, you would think they would have capitalized on it..

Now you are just getting silly bro.

You are saying Anthony has to do a year-long study before he can bring to market a herb that has been used effectively and safely for generations?

So what if EAS and Pinnacle didn't come out this first? There is a lot of good and effective supplements that where not bottled by any of the companies you mentioned. Where does that even fit into this situation?





-BRR

 

[ItalianMuscle27]

Now you are just getting silly bro.

You are saying Anthony has to do a year-long study before he can bring to market a herb that has been used effectively and safely for generations?

So what if EAS and Pinnacle didn't come out this first? There is a lot of good and effective supplements that where not bottled by any of the companies you mentioned. Where does that even fit into this situation?





-BRR

Some kind of study should be done on humans, yes.. How can I take a supplment seriously, when its only study on paper was done with rats??
I would just like to see some human studies done, and not taking someones word on a public forum as accurate information..It wouldnt matter if you had 5 posts or 20,000 posts.. Prove to me on paper that it increases natural test levels.. show me studies, etc.. If I have the time this weekend, im going to research it a little further. Someone was kind enough to email me some info on this herb and I will check it out later..

I was using those companies as examples, Im sure there were dozens of companies that I didnt mention that have effective supplements. Im not going to clutter this thread with every company from A to Z.. Personally, I hardly use any supplements.. multi vitamin, protein powder and creatine and thats it.. I think everything else is nonsense.. If I want to increase my test levels, Ill just do 1g of test/week..

I just dont buy the libido increasing herbs.. None have worked for me ever, so why should this one?

 

[Big Rick Rock]

Some kind of study should be done on humans, yes.. How can I take a supplment seriously, when its only study on paper was done with rats??

Welcome to the world of Bodybuilding. 99% of the studies we use to base our knowledge on, were done on Rats... Some compounds don't even get tested in whole animals, just the placenta. The guys here take the results from those studies and base their knowledge on their interpretation of the results. You'll understand how it works the more time you spend on EF doing your reseach.


FYI- Rat's don't make a different kind of test than Humans. The Testosterone their bodies produce is chemically identical to that of Humans...


-BRR

 

[ItalianMuscle27]

Welcome to the world of Bodybuilding. 99% of the studies we use to base our knowledge on, were done on Rats... Some compounds don't even get tested in whole animals, just the placenta. The guys here take the results from those studies and base their knowledge on their interpretation of the results. You'll understand how it works the more time you spend on EF doing your reseach.




-BRR

Understood.. Im not a fan of any supplment, Ive tried dozens and dozens of them and I never really noticed anything.. Im trying to remember some of the crap that I have taken over the years..smilax, cybergenics, andro, boron, ultimate orange, etc.. I never noticed a thing.. Havent been a believer in quite sometime now.. But if the product is working for you or anyone else, im ok with it. Do what works for you... Im not trying to start a pissing match with you or AR, Im just trying to understand!

 

[Big Rick Rock]

Understood.. Im not a fan of any supplment, Ive tried dozens and dozens of them and I never really noticed anything.. Im trying to remember some of the crap that I have taken over the years..smilax, cybergenics, andro, boron, ultimate orange, etc.. I never noticed a thing.. Havent been a believer in quite sometime now.. But if the product is working for you or anyone else, im ok with it. Do what works for you... Im not trying to start a pissing match with you or AR, Im just trying to understand!

You sound like the chicks who pick the "bad boy" type, get fucked over and then says "All men are assholes". While I understand your frustation. Anthony wasn't the man who broke your heart. Don't take it out on him lol...

Cybergenics? Geez man, they got you too?..



-BRR

 

[T-Matt]

Some kind of study should be done on humans, yes.. How can I take a supplment seriously, when its only study on paper was done with rats??
I would just like to see some human studies done, and not taking someones word on a public forum as accurate information..It wouldnt matter if you had 5 posts or 20,000 posts.. Prove to me on paper that it increases natural test levels.. show me studies, etc.. If I have the time this weekend, im going to research it a little further. Someone was kind enough to email me some info on this herb and I will check it out later..

I was using those companies as examples, Im sure there were dozens of companies that I didnt mention that have effective supplements. Im not going to clutter this thread with every company from A to Z.. Personally, I hardly use any supplements.. multi vitamin, protein powder and creatine and thats it.. I think everything else is nonsense.. If I want to increase my test levels, Ill just do 1g of test/week..

I just dont buy the libido increasing herbs.. None have worked for me ever, so why should this one?

The fact is is that you're using LSP stuff right? Is that FDA approved human grade? I think NOT.. sooooooooooooooooooo............... You're taking a leap of faith that it's sterile right? That the Trenbolone Acetate is 100mg/mL right? You think a study really means anything? I mean, think about studies, studies are funded BY THE COMPANY WHO HAS A VESTED INTEREST IN THE PRODUCT, most of the time.. Not a separate non affiliated company.. Bottomline if it works it works.. if it doesn't, he it doesn't.. So what, I'm sure you've wasted $45 bucks on a jug of Cell Tech.. Or i'm sure you've broken a few Organon amps before..

You're a helluva guy IM, no need getting into an argument like this.. Either try it or don't..

T-Matt

 

[Big Rick Rock]

You're a helluva guy IM, no need getting into an argument like this.. Either try it or don't..

T-Matt

He is a good guy. I think he just neede a little attention from the Admin today. All my kids have their day




-BRR

 

[T-Matt]

He is a good guy. I think he just neede a little attention from the Admin today. All my kids have their day




-BRR

Is it the tren or clomid that's doing that to him?

Oh wait.. that's IM we're talking about.. YEP.. it's the tren!! haha, you ole dog you..

T-Matt

 

[missionpossible]

The fact is is that you're using LSP stuff right? Is that FDA approved human grade? I think NOT.. sooooooooooooooooooo............... You're taking a leap of faith that it's sterile right? That the Trenbolone Acetate is 100mg/mL right? You think a study really means anything? I mean, think about studies, studies are funded BY THE COMPANY WHO HAS A VESTED INTEREST IN THE PRODUCT, most of the time.. Not a separate non affiliated company.. Bottomline if it works it works.. if it doesn't, he it doesn't.. So what, I'm sure you've wasted $45 bucks on a jug of Cell Tech.. Or i'm sure you've broken a few Organon amps before..

You're a helluva guy IM, no need getting into an argument like this.. Either try it or don't..

T-Matt

Most reputable companies do have an independant study performed to "prove" a products effectivness. They take a large group and test them before and after. Some are given placebo and some real product and not told who gets what, a double blind study. They report on the actual test results along with the study participants remarks. Many will think they have results and were given a placebo unknowingly. This kind of study helps eliminate an awful lot of skepticism on new products and the claims they state can then be backed with documented facts.

 

[T-Matt]

Most reputable companies do have an independant study performed to "prove" a products effectivness. They take a large group and test them before and after. Some are given placebo and some real product and not told who gets what, a double blind study. They report on the actual test results along with the study participants remarks. Many will think they have results and were given a placebo unknowingly. This kind of study helps eliminate an awful lot of skepticism on new products and the claims they state can then be backed with documented facts.

Just like we have a Insurance Commission that regulates insurance fraud.. Yeah, there's none of that happening!

The company with the vested interest is still funding the research.. You can't truly believe in it 100% Most of those studies are too complicated for the average person to read and are worded in such a way that it can be interpreted to benefit the vested company..

"Studies on ibuprofin showed that 9 out of 10 patients' headaches subsided after administration of the drug, therefore it is 90% effective." 90% effective at doing what? At hiding your symptoms of your body being fucked up? haha.. You didn't have a headache because your body needed some ibuprofin.. What did that study really prove? Bottomline, if you tell me a supplement is going to do something and it does exactly what you said to me, I'm happy, if not, I feel like I didn't get my money worth..

T-Matt

 

[ItalianMuscle27]

You sound like the chicks who pick the "bad boy" type, get fucked over and then says "All men are assholes". While I understand your frustation. Anthony wasn't the man who broke your heart. Don't take it out on him lol...

Cybergenics? Geez man, they got you too?..



-BRR

I know, im wasnt trying to bash AR or his product.. I was just trying to understand better, no harm no foul.. Im not a believer and never will be in any supplement.. Funny thing about the cybergenics..If I remember right, they talked me into buying 2 kits.. I never used the 2nd one.. Sucker born every minute I know.. But I was young, naive, and never wanted to take steroids.. But after the first cycle, I was like.. just one more.. Now after 2 dozen cycles later look at me now..

 

[ItalianMuscle27]

The fact is is that you're using LSP stuff right? Is that FDA approved human grade? I think NOT.. sooooooooooooooooooo............... You're taking a leap of faith that it's sterile right? That the Trenbolone Acetate is 100mg/mL right? You think a study really means anything? I mean, think about studies, studies are funded BY THE COMPANY WHO HAS A VESTED INTEREST IN THE PRODUCT, most of the time.. Not a separate non affiliated company.. Bottomline if it works it works.. if it doesn't, he it doesn't.. So what, I'm sure you've wasted $45 bucks on a jug of Cell Tech.. Or i'm sure you've broken a few Organon amps before..

You're a helluva guy IM, no need getting into an argument like this.. Either try it or don't..

T-Matt

Yes, I use some of LSP products and I know its not approved humangrade..Honestly, humangrade is my first choice, but some products arent available humangrade, so we have to seek alternatives.. My friends and I have tried pretty much the entire line, and we have been quite pleased. By far, one of the best UGs that ive tried.. Their winstrol is my favorite so far!!

I wasnt trying to start a pissing match with AR or anyone else, I just wanted to know what was so special about this herb in nigeria, and how come all of a sudden its the talk of the town??? Im skeptical, but also curious..if that makes sense..

I said before to each his own, if a product comes out and its working for you, by all means keep taking it.. Ill be following the threads more about this supplement, to get more info, and keep asking questions..

So celltech is a waste of money?? lol.. I only use EAS phosphagen elite! It works for me..

 

[Anthony Roberts]

Ive always believed anything is possible.. How many individuals are we talking about?? 10, 100, 200, 1000s? I cant take a study seriously with feedback from a dozen people on a public forum..I think your case would be so much better if human studies and tests could be performed over the coarse of a year or so, and than have some better feedback..What happens when you come off?? Is the stuff cycled?? Im just trying to get a better understanding of this herb thats all..

Dont get me wrong, Im all about wanting to make money, and I commend you for your efforts with giving people other options, but hyping up a herb thats been around for quite some time, Im skeptical.. I mean, how come scientists from well known supplement companies like Beverly, EAS, Metrx, Pinnacle, etc.. havent had this herb in any of their products?? It just seems strange to me.. If it was that good, you would think they would have capitalized on it..

Because I beat them all to it.

The fact is, before Biotest came out with their Rez-V supplement, I had already been reccomending GrapeSeedExtract to the members of the T-Nation forum...then shortly afterwards, Biotest came out with a product containing a GrapeSeedExtract type product (Rez-V). Many o the members on that forum thought that I'd actually been ripped off, and my idea stolen...and now, there's another company producing their own version of Rez-V...but in the end, I'd been reccomending this stuff well before any supplement companies jumped on it.

There are simply a few times, where I've been lucky or smart enough to dig up some research or connect some dots where scientists at the big supplement companies have not.

So the answer to your question, is that they haven't capitalized on this herb because they didn't know about it before I did...I think we'll probably see some rip-off versions of my product soon enough.

 

[ItalianMuscle27]

Because I beat them all to it.

The fact is, before Biotest came out with their Rez-V supplement, I had already been reccomending GrapeSeedExtract to the members of the T-Nation forum...then shortly afterwards, Biotest came out with a product containing a GrapeSeedExtract type product (Rez-V). Many o the members on that forum thought that I'd actually been ripped off, and my idea stolen...and now, there's another company producing their own version of Rez-V...but in the end, I'd been reccomending this stuff well before any supplement companies jumped on it.

There are simply a few times, where I've been lucky or smart enough to dig up some research or connect some dots where scientists at the big supplement companies have not.

So the answer to your question, is that they haven't capitalized on this herb because they didn't know about it before I did...I think we'll probably see some rip-off versions of my product soon enough.

Never heard of Rez V.. But than again, Im not going to run and buy the next new crave of the month either.. If I have some time, Ill google it and see what it is.. I just think supplements in general dont work.. For one, they are overpriced, they are always marketed to be the next big thing.. And then they have an athlete who swears by it! I will always be skeptical, so there would be no changing my mind.. but best of luck to you and everyone trying myogenx..

 

[justinjones1963]

Day 1:
November 25, 2006

I just got my MyogenX in. It took proteinfactory 10 days which is not the norm. I have ordered from them in the past and service has always been top notch.

I got a PM asking what the ingredients are so here it is:

Fadogia Agrestis 500mg
Vitamin E 200mg
Zinc 15mg

I took one pill in the morning and I will follow the label and take one tab three times per day.

I am currently on PCT and I am only running AIFM tqo squirts before going to bed. I have clomid and HCG on hand but I decided not to use it. See my first post for my cycle info.

I still have some small ball shrinkage and my libido has been a little low. I am normally a very horny bastard & jerk off many times per day. I haven't been at 100% but I can still get wood and blow a decent load. I am also entering finals shortly so the stress may also be a factor.

If I get morning wood and my libido goes through the roof I will definitely notice it so I am looking forward to posting results if and when they happen.

I will most likley post daily updates in the evening or maybe every other day depending on the results.

Wish me luck.

J.J.

 

[ItalianMuscle27]

Day 1:
November 25, 2006

I am normally a very horny bastard & jerk off many times per day.

J.J.

nice..

 

[Anthony Roberts]

Never heard of Rez V.. But than again, Im not going to run and buy the next new crave of the month either.. If I have some time, Ill google it and see what it is.. I just think supplements in general dont work.. For one, they are overpriced, they are always marketed to be the next big thing.. And then they have an athlete who swears by it! I will always be skeptical, so there would be no changing my mind.. but best of luck to you and everyone trying myogenx..

The first thing that comes to my mind, in this case, is why bother entering into a dialogue about supplements (or anything, for that matter) if your mind can not be changed?

 

[ItalianMuscle27]

The first thing that comes to my mind, in this case, is why bother entering into a dialogue about supplements (or anything, for that matter) if your mind can not be changed?

For one, im voicing my opinion. Two, I thought this was an open discussion forum, and 3 I have questions regarding this herb or any herb for that matter that increases test levels and especially libido.. Ive tried every herb or supplement known to man, claiming everything from increased sex drive, libido, to prolonged erections.. They simply dont work.. Why all of a sudden is Myogenx, the fountain of youth?? I just find it hard to believe, you stumbled across the magic answer to everyones libido issues..


Within a year, this myogenx will have a new formula with another special herb that will enhanced the first one by 2 or 3x. And it will be another well kept secret that was in the lost jungles of Africa.. Ask any ED doctor, what they think of herbs increasing libido.. At least the one I spoken with and my regular doctor, both said the same thing..save your money! And with my personal experience with herbs, thats 3 opinions. But than again, who am I? Im just a regular guy..

And the thing with herbs, maybe im wrong, but I always believed or I thought I read, that herbs have to be taken at the same time, same dose everyday, and be taken for years to really notice anything beneficial from them..

 

[Big Rick Rock]

Ive tried every herb or supplement known to man, claiming everything from increased sex drive, libido, to prolonged erections.. They simply dont work..

Thats too bad, Herbs never worked for you. I love herbs lol... Humankind has benefited greatly from plants. Did you know that something like 90% of our prescription meds have plant based active ingredients?

Everything from the coffee we drink in the morning, to the rubber on the tires on our cars, the Asthma medication we use, The cream you put on your cock to get the genital warts off after that trip to Vegas, nicotine, THC, Cocaine, Opiates, alcohol... all those things have come from plants.

Even the steroids you inject started off a plant stem before some molecules were where chopped off and the hormones were made out of it. Soy milk is recomemded to Women becuase it contains some Estrogen-like hormones beneficial to women.

Herbs produce all kinds of weird substances, many many many already PROVEN to work. Substances made by Plants that can affect every one of our systems. From your brain down to your toe nails.
Why is this so hard to belive yet another herb can benefit human kind. There are already MILLIONS of different plants in use TODAY.



-BRR

 

[Big Rick Rock]

Ask any ED doctor, what they think of herbs increasing libido.. At least the one I spoken with and my regular doctor, both said the same thing..save your money!

Doctor: "yeah, save your money on the natural herb stuff and take this prescription for XXXX instead. They send me a lot of pens, Golf balls and Clipboards every year."


Off the top of my head.... a plant that has an immediate effect on my libido, usually within 3-4 minutes after administration: Marijuana.




-BRR

 

[ItalianMuscle27]

Thats too bad, Herbs never worked for you. I love herbs lol... Humankind has benefited greatly from plants. Did you know that something like 90% of our prescription meds have plant based active ingredients?

Everything from the coffee we drink in the morning, to the rubber on the tires on our cars, the Asthma medication we use, The cream you put on your cock to get the genital warts off after that trip to Vegas, nicotine, THC, Cocaine, Opiates, alcohol... all those things have come from plants.

Even the steroids you inject started off a plant stem before some molecules were where chopped off and the hormones were made out of it. Soy milk is recomemded to Women becuase it contains some Estrogen-like hormones beneficial to women.

Herbs produce all kinds of weird substances, many many many already PROVEN to work. Substances made by Plants that can affect every one of our systems. From your brain down to your toe nails.
Why is this so hard to belive yet another herb can benefit human kind. There are already MILLIONS of different plants in use TODAY.



-BRR

From my understanding, maybe im wrong, but I thought the FDA wont allow us to take most herbs in their purest of forms. Especially the thermogenic ones.. By the time they get to us, they are broken down and cut so many times, of course they are not going to work.. I remember the hype with the yohimbe bark back in the 90s sometime, I dont think you can even get real yohimbe anymore, and the stuff they do sell as yohimbe, is the inferior one..

This whole thing has be wondering, if I tried these herbs in their purest form, would they work better? I guess anything is possible, but I wont be hppping on a plane to Nigeria or west africa, anytime soon..

 

[ProtienFiend]

Thats too bad, Herbs never worked for you. I love herbs lol... Humankind has benefited greatly from plants. Did you know that something like 90% of our prescription meds have plant based active ingredients?

Everything from the coffee we drink in the morning, to the rubber on the tires on our cars, the Asthma medication we use, The cream you put on your cock to get the genital warts off after that trip to Vegas, nicotine, THC, Cocaine, Opiates, alcohol... all those things have come from plants.

Even the steroids you inject started off a plant stem before some molecules were where chopped off and the hormones were made out of it. Soy milk is recomemded to Women becuase it contains some Estrogen-like hormones beneficial to women.

Herbs produce all kinds of weird substances, many many many already PROVEN to work. Substances made by Plants that can affect every one of our systems. From your brain down to your toe nails.
Why is this so hard to belive yet another herb can benefit human kind. There are already MILLIONS of different plants in use TODAY.

-BRR

Funny/good post.

 

[ItalianMuscle27]

Doctor: "yeah, save your money on the natural herb stuff and take this prescription for XXXX instead. They send me a lot of pens, Golf balls and Clipboards every year."


Off the top of my head.... a plant that has an immediate effect on my libido, usually within 3-4 minutes after administration: Marijuana.


-BRR

Well Im sure the prescription meds have had human studies done on them too, and not just done on rats.. Ive never really had a problem with libido, only time was when I ran some tren. Thats when I was trying all these herbs, sex stacks, etc.. Finally I went to a doctor, ask some questions, told him what was happening, and I went on my path to recovery.. I usually stay on test all year now, so I havent had a problem and I feel like im in my early 20s still. I chase my girl around constantly with a boner..

Everyone is different, a herb may work great for you, anthony or the next guy, but wont have any effect on me..

I have a friend who is the same way with marijuana, a few hits, and he is humping everything..

 

[Big Rick Rock]

Ive never really had a problem with libido, only time was when I ran some tren. Thats when I was trying all these herbs, sex stacks, etc..

If the Tren was messing with your sexdrive, and you took herbs on top of it.... I dunno how well that would work... If you had gotten OFF the Tren first maybe you would have had better luck.





-BRR

 

[ItalianMuscle27]

If the Tren was messing with your sexdrive, and you took herbs on top of it.... I dunno how well that would work... If you had gotten OFF the Tren first maybe you would have had better luck.

-BRR

The tren messed with my sex drive big time..I wasnt taking both tren and herbs at the same time. But I think i was on it too long to begin with..I just loved how I looked on it, and wanted to stay on longer.. But taking all these herbs was after I finished. I dont remember exactly, because that was probably about 6 or 7 years ago..but I was trying everything..supplements, different foods, etc.. Nothing worked! I stayed clean for about 6 or 7 months, hopped back on some test, and ever since than, things have been great! Sex drive is great, i have boners every morning..blood work has always been pretty much within range..I get that done at least 2x/year..sometimes 3..

 

[Wax-on]

Started taking MyoGenX today.
Will keep you all posted.

 

[ItalianMuscle27]

Any more comments about this AR?? I do have some more questions regarding this herb..

but here is one to start, the other two ingredients zinc and vitamin e, why were they chosen to go along with fadoglia? Can this herb be taken in its purest form?? Or is it broken down, like every other herb that is approved by the FDA??

 

[Anthony Roberts]

Any more comments about this AR?? I do have some more questions regarding this herb..

but here is one to start, the other two ingredients zinc and vitamin e, why were they chosen to go along with fadoglia? Can this herb be taken in its purest form?? Or is it broken down, like every other herb that is approved by the FDA??

Zinc and Vitamin E have both been proven to have positive effects on Endocrine support, and both support the elevation of testosterone. I suspect there'll be some synergy by putting them in the formula along with the Fadogia.

Yes, the herb can be taken in it's purest form...the Fadogia in MyoGenX isn't "broken down"...it's the herb, exactly as Protein Factory gets it, compressed and put into a capsule with the Zinc and Vitamin E.

 

[Anthony Roberts]

Started taking MyoGenX today.
Will keep you all posted.

Please do that.

 

[MorganKane]

I got a question.
Why is this product not backed by any human testing before release?

I am actually a little surprised that it hit the shelfs without the "inventor" testing it himself and I am even more surprised how many people that is buying it to be test subjects.

I hope it is as good as promised, it sounds like a great product but so many other did too.

 

[Anthony Roberts]

I got a question.
Why is this product not backed by any human testing before release?

I am actually a little surprised that it hit the shelfs without the "inventor" testing it himself and I am even more surprised how many people that is buying it to be test subjects.

I hope it is as good as promised, it sounds like a great product but so many other did too.

Well, since all three compounds in this product have been used safely by humans for decades, we knew that there wouldn't be any kind of safety issue with reards to putting them all together in a supplement.

And since 2 out of the three ingredients have been proven to boost testosterone levels in both animal and human studies, and the prime ingredient was shown to do that in an animal study, we really had no doubt that it would work as we thouht it would.

In the end, we knew that the product would work, and that it was safe....so we produced a limited production run of it (220 bottles), and put all of the available information on the product out there for people to decide whether they want to give it a shot or not.

We were very upfront about the fact that it hadn't been used before by anyone, and even that I hadn't used it yet. So people must have factored that into their decision on whether to buy it, and decided that they'll give it a shot. Anyway, like I said, since we knew it would be sae and effective, we wanted to release it as soon as possible, and that's what we ultimately did.

As for human studies, when you give out bottles of a supplement and get user feedback, that's not really a "study" (at all)...it's more like pre-market product testing. If you're asking why we didn't do that, I uess the reason is just that we didn't see any benefit over simply releasing a small amount of the product for sale, and hopefully getting feedback that way.

 

[ItalianMuscle27]

where are the the people that purchased this product at?? Curious of feedback good or bad...

 

[odoyal rulez]

where are the the people that purchased this product at?? Curious of feedback good or bad...

I had to stop taking it...my dick grew 3 inches and i started growing hair out of my ears thet fell to my shoulders...

 

[ItalianMuscle27]

I find it funny i read on another forum the results of a users experience with myogenx..and here it is..

he claims he has been taking myogenx for 5 days and he already has a little more definition and shape to his muscles, yet he hasnt worked out or ate right either.. Sounds like its his diet if you ask me, and not myogenx.. This product keeps getting better and better..

 

[Anthony Roberts]

I find it funny i read on another forum the results of a users experience with myogenx..and here it is..

he claims he has been taking myogenx for 5 days and he already has a little more definition and shape to his muscles, yet he hasnt worked out or ate right either.. Sounds like its his diet if you ask me, and not myogenx.. This product keeps getting better and better..

Even though he says it's not his diet, you have determined that it is, in fact his diet. Interesting.

Go check out the MyoGenX threads on steroid.com...maybe you can give us a reason (other than MyoGenX) that 100% of the users who are taking it are experiencing very good results.

 

[ItalianMuscle27]

Ive seen the threads over at the other board, and im not even close to being convinced.. The dude who made that comment wasnt really sure himself either.. Im making a logical explanation, the foods he ate in the last 5 days, would have an impact on his or anyones else apperance.. I know if I eat more carbs than normal, I feel way to bloated and look like crap.. Your going to sit there and tell me, he is feeling this way because of the myogenx All these herbs that have been on the shelves in supplement stores for the past 7, 8, 9, 10 years havent worked yet, claming all this testosterone increase, libidio etc.. Trib, dosnt work, and neither does the horny goat weed..

I called an out of state ED doctor today, and im waiting to hear back from him to ask him a professional opinion on herbs and their place in supplements helping with libido. I will post what he says when he calls.. fair enough?

 

[njmuscleguy]

I called an out of state ED doctor today, and im waiting to hear back from him to ask him a professional opinion on herbs and their place in supplements helping with libido. I will post what he says when he calls.. fair enough?

I don't have an opinion either way here (well, I do, but that's besides the point).... the point is, a doctor will typically turn their noses up at herbs, and other similar supplements...including "specialists" ... they're job is to prescribe rX's and to cut people up.... they don't get anything in return for prescribing "herbs"... so don't take the word of this particular doctor as bible...

maybe you should just try the stuff so you can once and for all give a definitive opinion on it

 

[ItalianMuscle27]

I don't have an opinion either way here (well, I do, but that's besides the point).... the point is, a doctor will typically turn their noses up at herbs, and other similar supplements...including "specialists" ... they're job is to prescribe rX's and to cut people up.... they don't get anything in return for prescribing "herbs"... so don't take the word of this particular doctor as bible...

maybe you should just try the stuff so you can once and for all give a definitive opinion on it

Just seeking another opinion, thats all.. Id take the word over a well known, respected doctor/specialist anytime over the word from anonymous people on an open forum..

And as for trying it out, I dont think my opinion would even mean anything anymore.. I mean, I already said what I think of herbs, and if I did come back with the truth wether it be good or bad, who would value my opinion.. Id be a hyprocrite if I said it worked, and i would be riduculed if my opinons were bad, and that Im out to get someone..right BRR?? Ill pass, i already had my zinc and vitamin e today anyways! And no real change in anything either..

 

[ProtienFiend]

I don't have an opinion either way here (well, I do, but that's besides the point).... the point is, a doctor will typically turn their noses up at herbs, and other similar supplements...including "specialists" ... they're job is to prescribe rX's and to cut people up.... they don't get anything in return for prescribing "herbs"... so don't take the word of this particular doctor as bible...

maybe you should just try the stuff so you can once and for all give a definitive opinion on it

Unless the doctor was a friend or giving an arbitrary opinion.

Also, younger doctors are usually more "cutting edge" than the older "stuck in their ways" type. Regardless, most herbs (especially new ones) wouldnt be covered in Med school so most likely his response would be, along the lines of "I'm not sure". Or the doctor would make something up because he is indeed a pompous doctor.

 

[njmuscleguy]

Unless the doctor was a friend or giving an arbitrary opinion.

Also, younger doctors are usually more "cutting edge" than the older "stuck in their ways" type. Regardless, most herbs (especially new ones) wouldnt be covered in Med school so most likely his response would be, along the lines of "I'm not sure". Or the doctor would make something up because he is indeed a pompous doctor.

I used to think that too, but it's definitely not always true! My mom is in desperate need of chiropractic care and her doctor outright REFUSES to give her the referral she needs (damn insurance!) to go....he's been drugging her up with pain meds, she's been to a PT, and NOTHING works... it really pisses me off... I've told her to insist and demand, didn't work....I told her to threaten to find another doctor and he didn't care....and on top of all this, he's a YOUNG doctor. Point is, most doctors don't subscribe to anything other than the realms of medicine or surgery... so that eliminates most "alternative" types of care.

 

[missionpossible]

I used to think that too, but it's definitely not always true! My mom is in desperate need of chiropractic care and her doctor outright REFUSES to give her the referral she needs (damn insurance!) to go....he's been drugging her up with pain meds, she's been to a PT, and NOTHING works... it really pisses me off... I've told her to insist and demand, didn't work....I told her to threaten to find another doctor and he didn't care....and on top of all this, he's a YOUNG doctor. Point is, most doctors don't subscribe to anything other than the realms of medicine or surgery... so that eliminates most "alternative" types of care.

Typical western medicine approach, too many Dr.s in the US that wont even consider anthing "alterative" to what they learned in med school.

 

[Big Rick Rock]

Typical western medicine approach, too many Dr.s in the US that wont even consider anthing "alterative" to what they learned in med school.

Because "Alternatives" usually come from exotic herbs that can be obtained without and script. There is more money in teaching Doctors to prescribe Meds.

 

[taoiron]

Just seeking another opinion, thats all.. Id take the word over a well known, respected doctor/specialist anytime over the word from anonymous people on an open forum..

And as for trying it out, I dont think my opinion would even mean anything anymore.. I mean, I already said what I think of herbs, and if I did come back with the truth wether it be good or bad, who would value my opinion.. Id be a hyprocrite if I said it worked, and i would be riduculed if my opinons were bad, and that Im out to get someone..right BRR?? Ill pass, i already had my zinc and vitamin e today anyways! And no real change in anything either..

Preach on brotha!!! I believe!!

I have wasted so much cash on herbal this and that… This may be something “better” than we have seen in the past but… I have my doubts.. That being said, I am sure they will make plenty of money off of it!!

My 2ml

Taoiron
Nugga Extraordinaire

 

[missionpossible]

Because "Alternatives" usually come from exotic herbs that can be obtained without and script. There is more money in teaching Doctors to prescribe Meds.

good point....

probably has a lot to do with one particular medicinal herb that many say has a whole host of benefits from not being really legal, eh?

 

[njmuscleguy]

Preach on brotha!!! I believe!!

I have wasted so much cash on herbal this and that… This may be something “better” than we have seen in the past but… I have my doubts.. That being said, I am sure they will make plenty of money off of it!!

My 2ml

Taoiron
Nugga Extraordinaire

Let's face it, we've all tried dozens if not hudreds of OTC products in hopes of curing this or enhancing that.... I know I have.... I'd say at least 50% of all those supplements I've tried were completely useless....maybe 25% had *some* merit and another 25% that worked well and and would recommend to others... plus response is different for everyone

 

[justinjones1963]

Weekly Update:

Day 2:
Sunday November 26, 2006

No change and no noticeable effects.

Day 3:
Monday November 27, 2006

No change and no noticeable effects.

Day 4:
Tuesday November 28, 2006

Balls are hanging a little bit more but they are still retracted. I did notice a semi-rigid hard-on in the morning. Aside from that nothing substantial.

Day 5:
Wednesday November 29, 2006

No change

Day 6:
Thursday November 30, 2006

Ball sac is definitely hanging lower. Very noticeable. In the evening I was horny. Not though the roof. I have notice more energy and I note that Wednesday and tonight I can’t get to sleep. Despite getting little or no sleep all week I should be passing out but I have noticeable higher energy levels.

Day 7:
Friday December 1, 2006

Woke up with large morning wood and horny. I am a bit lethargic this morning (slept in a little late to catch up on the past week) but I am feeling rather well and holding up significantly well despite my horrid schedule.

_____________________________________________________

On another note I have not been working out. My hernia has gotten worse and it is not an umbilical hernia (it is higher - can't remember the term). Even coughing makes it pop out significantly. Anyway, I read one post above about having better definition and shape despite working out and I have definitely not noticed that.

I have been taking 3 tabs and will continue to do so. Net update next Friday.

 

[njmuscleguy]

great update jj, thanks...

we need more updates like this (good or bad)... keep 'em coming!

 

[Big Rick Rock]

Thanx for the feed back bro.

I never read your post about the hernia, what happened?

Weekly Update:

Day 2:
Sunday November 26, 2006

No change and no noticeable effects.

Day 3:
Monday November 27, 2006

No change and no noticeable effects.

Day 4:
Tuesday November 28, 2006

Balls are hanging a little bit more but they are still retracted. I did notice a semi-rigid hard-on in the morning. Aside from that nothing substantial.

Day 5:
Wednesday November 29, 2006

No change

Day 6:
Thursday November 30, 2006

Ball sac is definitely hanging lower. Very noticeable. In the evening I was horny. Not though the roof. I have notice more energy and I note that Wednesday and tonight I can’t get to sleep. Despite getting little or no sleep all week I should be passing out but I have noticeable higher energy levels.

Day 7:
Friday December 1, 2006

Woke up with large morning wood and horny. I am a bit lethargic this morning (slept in a little late to catch up on the past week) but I am feeling rather well and holding up significantly well despite my horrid schedule.

_____________________________________________________

On another note I have not been working out. My hernia has gotten worse and it is not an umbilical hernia (it is higher - can't remember the term). Even coughing makes it pop out significantly. Anyway, I read one post above about having better definition and shape despite working out and I have definitely not noticed that.

I have been taking 3 tabs and will continue to do so. Net update next Friday.

 

[justinjones1963]

Thanx for the feed back bro.

I never read your post about the hernia, what happened?

I was in week 5 or 6 of sus 500mg wk / 600mg EQ. I did deadlifts on Friday and squats on Monday. I was sitting at the desk doing homework and felt something weird on my abs. It didn't hurt at first but something was popping out. I pushed it back in and then did some reading up and came to the conclusion it was a hernia. I had one at birth (umbilical) and figured it was that again. I went to the gym again and it got worse. I went to the ER to get it checked out and they said it was a hernia.

I saw a doc a week or so later and he diagnosed me with a hernia that is higher in the abdominal cavity, which is more unusual than the umbilical. He said it may have been there all along and I just probably made a decent tear when lifting.

After all of this I did notice my abs were very tight the week before. I always stretch but one day my whole abdominal area was very tight. I stretched out as usual and I think it was at that time I tore it. It didn’t hurt or anything but I’ve never felt my abdominal cavity so tight. I didn’t do abs for a few days either because I figured I needed the rest. It was probably a very small tear that got bigger with the heavy lifting the week after. I was training abs three days per week but I would take a day off if I felt I needed to so I guess I just got the short end of the stick. All in all I think it was a combination of the ab workouts, bad genetics and deadlifts or squats.

Also, I went to a PT and the first words out of her mouth were do you use steroids. She said that it is common and she has seen a few cases of the higher abdominal hernia with people on gear. She said that steroids weaken something in the area that can contribute to tears. I haven’t had a chance to read up on it and I didn't bother debating with her on the benefits of AAS use (and of course I denied using).

I'm in school so I cannot get surgery right off so I am getting it done during Christmas. They cannot do laparoscopic surgery because of the nature of the tear but they are using a mesh (and not suturing the abdominal muscles together which takes much longer to recover) so recovery will be about 6 weeks and I'll have a scar.

The funny thing is that a few weeks earlier I was reading an article at the gym about some model that got a hernia over-training her abs. I laughed and said to myself "Dumb bitch...you should stretch before training and know when to cut back." Funny how karma can get you like that lol

The biggest thing is my schedule early next year won't let me do a cycle properly because I have to travel a little which means I ruined my last cycle and I won't have a chance to hit a cycle with 100% dedication until summer. Injuries suck. I have been keeping my diet in check and I have a good mental outlook so the biggest hurdles have been overcome. All I need now is surgery, some recover time, and I'm back in the gym.

On a final note I was wearing a belt when deadlifting and doing squats. Just when you think you take care of all of the precautions shit like this happens

The real kicker is my lifting budy (who doesn't use gear) got a damn hernia doing squats the week after. There must be something in the water at the gym I work out at

 

[Big Rick Rock]

Dayum bro, that sucks...
How long is the recovery after a surgery like that?

I was in week 5 or 6 of sus 500mg wk / 600mg EQ. I did deadlifts on Friday and squats on Monday. I was sitting at the desk doing homework and felt something weird on my abs. It didn't hurt at first but something was popping out. I pushed it back in and then did some reading up and came to the conclusion it was a hernia. I had one at birth (umbilical) and figured it was that again. I went to the gym again and it got worse. I went to the ER to get it checked out and they said it was a hernia.

I saw a doc a week or so later and he diagnosed me with a hernia that is higher in the abdominal cavity, which is more unusual than the umbilical. He said it may have been there all along and I just probably made a decent tear when lifting.

After all of this I did notice my abs were very tight the week before. I always stretch but one day my whole abdominal area was very tight. I stretched out as usual and I think it was at that time I tore it. It didn’t hurt or anything but I’ve never felt my abdominal cavity so tight. I didn’t do abs for a few days either because I figured I needed the rest. It was probably a very small tear that got bigger with the heavy lifting the week after. I was training abs three days per week but I would take a day off if I felt I needed to so I guess I just got the short end of the stick. All in all I think it was a combination of the ab workouts, bad genetics and deadlifts or squats.

Also, I went to a PT and the first words out of her mouth were do you use steroids. She said that it is common and she has seen a few cases of the higher abdominal hernia with people on gear. She said that steroids weaken something in the area that can contribute to tears. I haven’t had a chance to read up on it and I didn't bother debating with her on the benefits of AAS use (and of course I denied using).

I'm in school so I cannot get surgery right off so I am getting it done during Christmas. They cannot do laparoscopic surgery because of the nature of the tear but they are using a mesh (and not suturing the abdominal muscles together which takes much longer to recover) so recovery will be about 6 weeks and I'll have a scar.

The funny thing is that a few weeks earlier I was reading an article at the gym about some model that got a hernia over-training her abs. I laughed and said to myself "Dumb bitch...you should stretch before training and know when to cut back." Funny how karma can get you like that lol

The biggest thing is my schedule early next year won't let me do a cycle properly because I have to travel a little which means I ruined my last cycle and I won't have a chance to hit a cycle with 100% dedication until summer. Injuries suck. I have been keeping my diet in check and I have a good mental outlook so the biggest hurdles have been overcome. All I need now is surgery, some recover time, and I'm back in the gym.

On a final note I was wearing a belt when deadlifting and doing squats. Just when you think you take care of all of the precautions shit like this happens

The real kicker is my lifting budy (who doesn't use gear) got a damn hernia doing squats the week after. There must be something in the water at the gym I work out at

 

[justinjones1963]

Dayum bro, that sucks...
How long is the recovery after a surgery like that?

About 6 weeks before I can lift heavy again. I'll start out very light anyway with the major lifts.

They do have new procedures out there that can fix certain hernia's and you will be back to normal within days.

 

[njmuscleguy]

any updates?

 

[Anthony Roberts]

any updates?

Really, the place with the most updates, and ongoing logs is steroid.com. The supplement forum is full of MyoGenX logs, with 100% of the users reporting very good results.

 

[gjohnson5]

Is the lethargy a possible side effect of increased anabolic activity?

Weekly Update:

Day 2:
Sunday November 26, 2006

No change and no noticeable effects.

Day 3:
Monday November 27, 2006

No change and no noticeable effects.

Day 4:
Tuesday November 28, 2006

Balls are hanging a little bit more but they are still retracted. I did notice a semi-rigid hard-on in the morning. Aside from that nothing substantial.

Day 5:
Wednesday November 29, 2006

No change

Day 6:
Thursday November 30, 2006

Ball sac is definitely hanging lower. Very noticeable. In the evening I was horny. Not though the roof. I have notice more energy and I note that Wednesday and tonight I can’t get to sleep. Despite getting little or no sleep all week I should be passing out but I have noticeable higher energy levels.

Day 7:
Friday December 1, 2006

Woke up with large morning wood and horny. I am a bit lethargic this morning (slept in a little late to catch up on the past week) but I am feeling rather well and holding up significantly well despite my horrid schedule.

_____________________________________________________

On another note I have not been working out. My hernia has gotten worse and it is not an umbilical hernia (it is higher - can't remember the term). Even coughing makes it pop out significantly. Anyway, I read one post above about having better definition and shape despite working out and I have definitely not noticed that.

I have been taking 3 tabs and will continue to do so. Net update next Friday.

 

[gjohnson5]

Well let me qualify that last post. I agree with Italian that I am skeptical of supplements , but I still buy them. The ultimate judge of wheather your supplements (or steroids) which make claims of anabolic activity is a tape measure. Just because "symptoms" done show up or some "noticeable effect" appears one day does not mean there the product is not working. You have to try the supplement and try it over an extended period of time and check results then

I wouldn't trust the word of most doctors on supplements or gear. I've went to multiple doctors with a one issue and you can get multiple disgnoses. They can't get it right for what they have been trained in...

As far as human studies go, Merck did human studies on Vioxx but didn't people still die from the drug??? I remember Mr X saying that all studies are misleading. I see where he was coming from with that, but I won't go that far. I like the presence of a study on humans but where the information comes from has alot to do with what is being published.

The whole purpose of Elitefitness is for folks to post thier results of gear , workouts and supps. This thread is your human study.....

Since multiple people have said that they needed to get thier woman to help them with thier morning wood , then it sounds interesting to me.

 

[ItalianMuscle27]

My comments may have been a little bit out of line, for one I never tried the stuff, but I was basically speaking from my personal experience from past herbs/supplements that were suppose to increase erections, libido, etc.. I just heard a new ad the other day on the radio, something claiming to increase sensation, ejaculation, libido, and make it much harder.. I laughed to myself..

If myogenx is the next best thing, Im ok with it.. I would just like to see results on paper, tests done, proving this stuff is really raising base test levels 200% in humans! I just find it strange, this hasnt been done pryor to releasing it. Maybe it has, just the results were not what was expected..