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Pros do not go off anabolics; they can't. Their natural Testo levels could never support the amount of muscle they carry. So, post-cycle recovery discussions for Pros are irrelevant. The rest of us go off for various reasons--so HCG/Nolvadex/Clomid stacks remain the endocrinologist's choice for recovery. I agree with Bill Llewellyn and drop the Clomid and dose the way I have posted in various articles here.
Once your natural Testo levels drop below a certain point, you need supplementation. Take the 42 year old guy with low, normal or low Testo levels. Suppose he had naturally high-normal to high levels in his teens and twenties. Now, his testes are failing; he is becoming LH resistant--this is aging..the HPTA axis is failing to function at a level he was at in his teens and twenties. Let's put him on Androgel (low dose, daily Testosterone). He feels good and his bloods show a normal level of Testosterone. Is he going to grow? Probably not, but he will feel "better." Will the Androgel affect his HPTA? Yes, but who cares! It is already failing because of aging. Suppose we put him on Oxandrin 20mg daily (he has the money). Will he grow? Probably not, but he will feel better. Will Oxandrin affect his HPTA? Yes, but so what! Someone mentioned that Androgel doesn't affect the HPTA--he would have to post studies to convince me. The HPTA negative feedback loop is very sensitive to testosterone increases, even if they are low and everybody's genetics are different.
Now, let's take this same person and put him on 500mg injectible Testosterone with Aromasin (the AAS stack is arbitrary--just picking something simple and safe). He will feel pretty good; his blood tests will be high-normal to high again. Will he grow? Most definitely--assuming proper diet and exercise. Will this cycle affect his HPTA? Yes, but who cares!! If he can tolerate this dosage and his bloods look good (add in PSA testing), great. We can even add in Proscar if needed. Can this person ever go off and function properly? No!! He can reduce his AAS intake periodically. He can increase it too. He can gain or lose size at will, but he can never go off.
I think the biggest problems I see with chronic AAS usage is lousy lipid profiles. That is why I keep suggesting pre-cycle testing to see if you have a pre-existing cholesterol problem. If you do, correct it before beginning AAS. The second problem is the overuse of orals, which leads to lousy liver and kidney values. As long as the AAS doses are small or cycles stay around eight weeks, these problems are not as bad and may not even exist. The Pros are different--this is their living and they have to take risks to win.
Once your natural Testo levels drop below a certain point, you need supplementation. Take the 42 year old guy with low, normal or low Testo levels. Suppose he had naturally high-normal to high levels in his teens and twenties. Now, his testes are failing; he is becoming LH resistant--this is aging..the HPTA axis is failing to function at a level he was at in his teens and twenties. Let's put him on Androgel (low dose, daily Testosterone). He feels good and his bloods show a normal level of Testosterone. Is he going to grow? Probably not, but he will feel "better." Will the Androgel affect his HPTA? Yes, but who cares! It is already failing because of aging. Suppose we put him on Oxandrin 20mg daily (he has the money). Will he grow? Probably not, but he will feel better. Will Oxandrin affect his HPTA? Yes, but so what! Someone mentioned that Androgel doesn't affect the HPTA--he would have to post studies to convince me. The HPTA negative feedback loop is very sensitive to testosterone increases, even if they are low and everybody's genetics are different.
Now, let's take this same person and put him on 500mg injectible Testosterone with Aromasin (the AAS stack is arbitrary--just picking something simple and safe). He will feel pretty good; his blood tests will be high-normal to high again. Will he grow? Most definitely--assuming proper diet and exercise. Will this cycle affect his HPTA? Yes, but who cares!! If he can tolerate this dosage and his bloods look good (add in PSA testing), great. We can even add in Proscar if needed. Can this person ever go off and function properly? No!! He can reduce his AAS intake periodically. He can increase it too. He can gain or lose size at will, but he can never go off.
I think the biggest problems I see with chronic AAS usage is lousy lipid profiles. That is why I keep suggesting pre-cycle testing to see if you have a pre-existing cholesterol problem. If you do, correct it before beginning AAS. The second problem is the overuse of orals, which leads to lousy liver and kidney values. As long as the AAS doses are small or cycles stay around eight weeks, these problems are not as bad and may not even exist. The Pros are different--this is their living and they have to take risks to win.
