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My girlfriends voice is deepening from winny
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KINGKONG69
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yes, winny was only choice i had for her, im trying to get anavar for her next cycle. i dropped the dose, so we'll see if the sides lighten up.
one side that is really starting to increase is the acne on her face. shes gonna start useing the face whipes throughout the day.
one side that is really starting to increase is the acne on her face. shes gonna start useing the face whipes throughout the day.
I would reduce the dosage of the winny and take her off the t-3 altogether. This is one of the reason most of us here suggest to only do one drug at a time so you can know exactly what side effects are being given by which drug.
I tried winny at just 12.5mg EOD, injectable, after only two shots my throat was really itchy and scratchy. I knew those were signs of deepening of the voice so I stopped.
I had previusly done a cycle with Deca and had the scratchy throat feeling and ended up with my voice changing. It's been 10 months now so its alot better, but right after the cycle I sounded like I had terrible cold all the time for about 3 months. Its better but not back to normal not by any means.
Its better to be safe than sorry. Definitely wait to get the anavar much safer at least for me it was great.
I tried winny at just 12.5mg EOD, injectable, after only two shots my throat was really itchy and scratchy. I knew those were signs of deepening of the voice so I stopped.
I had previusly done a cycle with Deca and had the scratchy throat feeling and ended up with my voice changing. It's been 10 months now so its alot better, but right after the cycle I sounded like I had terrible cold all the time for about 3 months. Its better but not back to normal not by any means.
Its better to be safe than sorry. Definitely wait to get the anavar much safer at least for me it was great.
Bluenine30
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For females 12.5 - 16 of winny should be the max.
Why? Why? Why is she doing this to herself? It changes a woman's entire physiology. I know it's done, but please get her to an endocrinologist fast.
Fact: The effects of "winny" or testosterone on the voice are PERMANENT. They are not reversable.
Fact: If it's working this fast on her, it's going to start building a brow ridge, thickening the jaw. This is PERMANENT.
Then thinning hair, and then facial hair. The facial hair requires painful electrolosis. Correcting boney facial stuff requires very expensive surgery. Your average plastic surgeon doesn't know how to do that anyway.
If this doesn't scare you, nothing will.
Testosterone should be at most 85 ng per deciliter of blood in females. Normal female range is 10 to 85 ng per deciliter. Some of us with low testosterone have difficulty losing body fat.
I'm sure that if she went to an endocrinologist and complained about lack of sex drive he or she would put her on low dosage of testosterone to bring her level up to that 85 ng/deciliter. It needs to be monitored.
Sasha
Fact: The effects of "winny" or testosterone on the voice are PERMANENT. They are not reversable.
Fact: If it's working this fast on her, it's going to start building a brow ridge, thickening the jaw. This is PERMANENT.
Then thinning hair, and then facial hair. The facial hair requires painful electrolosis. Correcting boney facial stuff requires very expensive surgery. Your average plastic surgeon doesn't know how to do that anyway.
If this doesn't scare you, nothing will.
Testosterone should be at most 85 ng per deciliter of blood in females. Normal female range is 10 to 85 ng per deciliter. Some of us with low testosterone have difficulty losing body fat.
I'm sure that if she went to an endocrinologist and complained about lack of sex drive he or she would put her on low dosage of testosterone to bring her level up to that 85 ng/deciliter. It needs to be monitored.
Sasha
KINGKONG69
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so whats up, should i take her off it completly, or just go with the new lower dose of 12.5mg every other day.
IMHO take her off it completely. Hormones need to be monitored by a doctor, and particulary by an endocrinologist. There are too many things that can go wrong.
I know a couple of girls that took it too far and ended up spending $35,000 to fix the damage. Now they look great but still have deep voices. Repairs are not covered by medical insurance.
Testosterone can also effect her ability to bear children and thus your ability to have a child with her if you so choose in the future.
Seeing an endoc for increasing sex drive is, however. That and the resulting prescription would also be covered.
He should run a TSH panel (for thyroid because of the fatigue) and a serum testosterone/estrogen, particularly FSH panel and a Hepatic (liver) function test to be on the safe side.
Sorry for the bad news. Now I'll get off my soapbox.
Sasha
I know a couple of girls that took it too far and ended up spending $35,000 to fix the damage. Now they look great but still have deep voices. Repairs are not covered by medical insurance.
Testosterone can also effect her ability to bear children and thus your ability to have a child with her if you so choose in the future.
Seeing an endoc for increasing sex drive is, however. That and the resulting prescription would also be covered.
He should run a TSH panel (for thyroid because of the fatigue) and a serum testosterone/estrogen, particularly FSH panel and a Hepatic (liver) function test to be on the safe side.
Sorry for the bad news. Now I'll get off my soapbox.
Sasha
KINGKONG69
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EVEN THOUGH THERE ARE SOME SIDES SHOWING, SHE DONT WANT TO COME OFF YET. WE TALKED ABOUT IT AT LUNCH TODAY.
ILL TALK WITH HER AGAIN TONIGHT. YOUR STARTING TO SCARE ME SASHA
ILL TALK WITH HER AGAIN TONIGHT. YOUR STARTING TO SCARE ME SASHA
Excellent post as usual Lobo...
As Lobo said the t-3 is NOT a steroid. And you shouldn't be taking t-3 w/o some a/s support or you will lose too much muscle. (I HOPE she is taking the t-3 correctly)
Unless your girl is getting freaked, I'd just back off the winstrol dose for several days and see if her sides improve. If they do not or worsen then certainly cut the dose again or stop all together. Voice changes CAN be permenant.
Re her tiredness: Remember that DIET, SUPPLEMENTS AND WATER are EXTREMELY important for her at this time. T-3 dehydrates so if she's not drinking enough water this could be causing tiredness. Many of us have experienced getting sick during a cycle b/c we are not supporting our system correctly. Doing a cycle does tax your system in a lot of different ways so the whole package is important.
I'd like to hear more about her training progress and diet.
As Lobo said the t-3 is NOT a steroid. And you shouldn't be taking t-3 w/o some a/s support or you will lose too much muscle. (I HOPE she is taking the t-3 correctly)
Unless your girl is getting freaked, I'd just back off the winstrol dose for several days and see if her sides improve. If they do not or worsen then certainly cut the dose again or stop all together. Voice changes CAN be permenant.
Re her tiredness: Remember that DIET, SUPPLEMENTS AND WATER are EXTREMELY important for her at this time. T-3 dehydrates so if she's not drinking enough water this could be causing tiredness. Many of us have experienced getting sick during a cycle b/c we are not supporting our system correctly. Doing a cycle does tax your system in a lot of different ways so the whole package is important.
I'd like to hear more about her training progress and diet.
You can have her e-mail me off the list and I'll discuss it with her if you'd like. Here's a picture of me 18 months ago at age 46. It's all me done with only creatine and a high protein diet. Just a lot of very hard work. I was at 13.9% bodyfat by the EAS formula. Granted I'm not as cut up as I'd like to be, but I could bench 250 then. And I was doing 60 minutes of cardio at a stretch 6 days a week.
Clothes were hard to find. I was a size 14 in the upper body 'cause of my shoulders, wore size 12 jeans, and was size 8 in the waist. I had to have everything altered.
Sasha
Clothes were hard to find. I was a size 14 in the upper body 'cause of my shoulders, wore size 12 jeans, and was size 8 in the waist. I had to have everything altered.
Sasha
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