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My friend is Transgender........
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Pat_McCrotch
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did your goverment pay for this?
Pat_McCrotch
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eddie Murphy likes em I hear
How much did it cost him?blueta2 said:
Tell him to join EF and I'll ask him.blueta2 said:
BBR100
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jnevin said:
No, she's a she and now she has the parts to go with it.
The whole thing makes me uncomfortable too and I don't even want to think about the mechanics of it. Like when I see a real "flaming" homosexual for some reason they really piss me off... Get to know the person and that could change. Fear of something I'm not sure. Don't even want to try to analyze it.
Bottom line is this person feels better now. I don't get it but who am I to judge?
needtogetarmy
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blueta2 said:
I would definitely check her out. If she was attractive and we clicked I would definitely go all the way with her. I would think of it as being a very interesting experience. Plus to be her first would be an honor.
needtogetarmy
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blueta2 said:
Most guys would not be able to handle something like this but there are open-minded guys out there.
I would tell her to be careful but she can easily probe guys she meets to see if they are the right match for her.
Hell, if she is in Virginia give her my contact info. I'd take her out on a date.
The truly funny thing about this thread, it re-emphasizes something I heard on television on the History Channel. It was an episode of Modern Marvels about the history of sex/the sex industry. A male doctor was talking about male versus female libido, how female libido is more complicated than male libido because essentially male libido is almost entirely mechanical. What really made me chuckle was he said (essentially) a man doesn't need to be there from the waist up to still be able to have/enjoy sex.
This thread is just proving what the show said, that for most guys, sex really is all about the genitals (and the horror and disgust at the concept of messing with those precious genitals!) whereas for women brains play a much more critical role. Perhaps this is why women are generally more accepting of the concept of transgender. For a lot of women, sex is generally more than JUST the physical act (not for the girls men like Wulfgar date ... but some of us).
This thread is just proving what the show said, that for most guys, sex really is all about the genitals (and the horror and disgust at the concept of messing with those precious genitals!) whereas for women brains play a much more critical role. Perhaps this is why women are generally more accepting of the concept of transgender. For a lot of women, sex is generally more than JUST the physical act (not for the girls men like Wulfgar date ... but some of us).
needtogetarmy
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musclemom said:
IMO I need to know a female before I sleep with her. I am a horny old bastard just like every other guy but I could never meet a girl, NOT like her, and then sleep with her, regardless of how hot she is. The few times I did do that it was a nightmare.
redsamurai
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god I wish I got to you for at least one night before you met your husband.........mmmmmmmmmm...... 
musclemom said:
patsfan1379
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Army Vet said:
I could, have and will do again.
Good god man.
redsamurai
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bw1 said:
thanks for the wood bro........
patsfan1379
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Wulfgar said:
lol
canadianhitman
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blueta2 said:
Ummmm....NO! Chromosomes say otherwise, and guys have the right to know.
canadianhitman
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myway said:
It's a deception, and it's just plain wrong. Think about the concequences if that person finds out the truth after being involved.
myway said:
It very well could hurt someone if the truth comes out after the fact; would be mentally devastating to someone like me, and every straight guy I know. And depending on the situation of when that truth was revealed, the transgender who perpetrated the deception might get hurt physically.
myway said:
Anyone who puts what they have to gain over the basic rights of another person...who throws common decency to the wind just to ensure they get more kicks...is a lowlife. People have a right to be given a reasonably accurate picture of what they are getting themselves into.
Cal_21
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BOTTOM LINE:
1) Yes she needs to be honest before anything physical happens. Just don't kiss on the first date & shit, and maybe once they've talked she can tell him. But there are some psychos out there, so maybe the sooner, the better.
2) Yes there will be good people out there open-minded enough to date her. Yes there will be straight men that would date her. Especially if she has these good qualities like you say.
END OF THREAD.
1) Yes she needs to be honest before anything physical happens. Just don't kiss on the first date & shit, and maybe once they've talked she can tell him. But there are some psychos out there, so maybe the sooner, the better.
2) Yes there will be good people out there open-minded enough to date her. Yes there will be straight men that would date her. Especially if she has these good qualities like you say.
END OF THREAD.
canadianhitman
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blueta2 said:
Good...I expected you to do the right thing; there is a Canadian flag under your avi, after all.
again.
patsfan1379
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so can we lock this stupid thread or what here
redsamurai
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I agree that it should probably be put out on the table, but some of y'all are trippin when you say "I'd be devestated" or livid or whatever. Look, did someone "dupe" you into putting a sweaty cock in your mouth? No, yes it's "fake pussy", but so what? I'd be kind of mad if I was told later about it, and I probably wouldn't speak to the person again.......but bro's, life would go on, I wouldn't sweat it the day after. It's so........so..........nothing!! The only reason I'd react like some of you are suggesting is if I was lied to about an std or god forbid, HIV. Now then I'd kill someone. So let's put things in perspective. Some of you have hit plastic mold vagina's........so don't complain about a living warm wet hole. Like I said, you should always be upfront, no games. And there's alot of guys that would be like......"good lookin pussy I can't get pregnant?" shhhhwwwwiiiiiinnnngggggg!!!! See, there's some upsides to this y'all ain't thinkin about......
canadianhitman said:
patsfan1379
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lock it up
jnevin
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blueta2 said:
Ok. So physically being born into the world one way isn't reality. Right.
Feelings and emotions are reality. Right.
So using that logic, all of the crazy homeless people out there that think they're Napoleon or some shit are actually right because that's their reality.
I learned a lot today.
patsfan1379
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I am Cornholio
Technically, it's inappropriate to apply the term "IT" to any human. It implies a level of disrespect, such a term is dehumanizing, a la "it puts the lotion on it's skin."jnevin said:
Look, they've actually proven, with brain imaging, that the vast majority of transgendered people (and a large proportion of transvestites) actually have different brain structure and its congenital, meaning, they're born with it. They have structures in their brains that correspond to the opposite gender.
Now, lets talk about perception of self. What forms your self image? Is your self image based on what you see in the mirror? By the feedback you get from other people? By pictures you see of yourself? Uh uh, it's all in your brain. How you perceive yourself is what makes up your self image. Not how others see you, not even what you see in the mirror (as proven in extreme cases by anorectics and the broad spectrum of other body dysmorphias).
If your brain is telling you that you are a female, despite the fact you have a penis, despite what you see in the mirror, how fucked up is your life going to be? How can you EVER be a happy person?
Try imaging it this way (because I've noticed its common to some degree in a lot of men): We have TONS of guys on this site who are NEVER big enough, despite working out, eating big -- and actually BEING big -- in their minds they are STILL that 115 lb. skinny ass kid who got the shit kicked out of his ass on a daily basis. But at least they get something tangible, they can workout and log it and lift it and see progress, on paper they can remark, HEY, I'm benching 250 and last year I could only bench 200, etc.
What's the poor transvestite supposed to do? Your eyes and birth certificate tell you you're a guy, but your head is saying GIRL. Imagine what you would feel if you woke up tomorrow and LACKED that penis! How fucked up would you feel?
Nobody would CHOOSE to subject themselves to the genital reassigment surgery unless there was just no other solution.
redsamurai
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recognize that this is like the female master yoda.......+1
musclemom said:
needtogetarmy
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gotmilk said:
NSFW
Pre-op
http://www.annasplace.me.uk/galleries/grs_intra_op/index.html
Post-op
http://www.annasplace.me.uk/galleries/grs_post_op/index.html
Our reality IS what we perceive it to be. That is both a scientific fact and a spiritual truth.jnevin said:
The reason those people ARE crazy is because, in THEIR mind, they ARE Napoleon. Schizophrenics hear voices and have hallucinations and those voices and images are every bit as real to them as your backyard is to you.
What is reality? Do you remember Morpheus asking Neo "Do you think that's air you're breathing?"
What's going on when you're dreaming, or better yet, having a nightmare? That's YOUR reality. How would you know if the dream never stopped, if you never woke up? How would you know the difference? What is reality?
Reality is NOT what your eyes are seeing, reality is what your BRAIN interprets it is seeing. There are types of brain damage that will leave you completely blind yet you will still have fully functioning eyes.
Feelings and emotions are the reality of the person experiencing them. When their world isn't in step with what the rest of us agree is the real world, that's what makes them "crazy." If they could just shake their heads, go "Ah, jeez, I was being silly" and stop thinking they're Napeoleon (or hearing voices, or seeing bugs crawling over the walls, etc.) then they wouldn't have mental problems.
It just happens that trangendered people have a problem that can be treated with a physical treatment, a surgery.
blueta2 said:
Ah, so getting one's dick cut off because of an obsession is sane?
Something else that is not sane is expecting people to just blindly accept a post-op m-->f transexual fully as a woman. If she was expecting to "pass" for female in the mate-selection process, then she was suffering from a delusion.
I'm not saying that she is a bad person, or that she is crazy in any other way. But it is expecting a lot for a heterosexual male to accept another male as a mate. Your friend deserves a mate if she wants one, but she is going to have to accept the idea that her ideal mate will not be a "typical" heterosexual male, but someone more open to nontraditional sexual roles.
Was she sexually active before surgery, and if so, in what role?
blueta2
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Mr. dB said:
she knows the score about meeting men. She has no expectations.
And yes she can find a typical hetero male. I know others who have been with transgenders that are typical males.
It's all in the perception.
I've only known her casually for 8 yrs and we recently got close this past year so I never asked about her sex life before the surgery.
all the funny left this thread when the smart people got here 
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blueta2
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I wonder what a little dermacrine would do to this person? Just a pinch between the fabricated curtains formerly known as his ball sack.
jnevin said:
I saw an article about an "amputation fetish" enabler who has helped several people find Mexican surgeons who were willing to cut off their body parts. This fellow is a child psychologist himself, and is also an amputation fetish sufferer who wishes to have his right leg removed just below the hip. He has not been successful in getting it done yet, or at least hadn't at the time of the article.
My point is that I don't see any difference between amputation fetish and transsexualism. Both seem to me to be obsessions that have been allowed to grow and fester until they take over the person and they can't be happy with themselves without surgical intervention.
Blue, enough of this crap. Post pics of your tits already.
jnevin
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blueta2 said:
Plastic surgery addicts, self-mutilation addicts, etc. Do you think that surgically butchering your genitals, getting breast implants, and taking hormone supps to become the opposite sex are perfectly normal just because someone really believes they were born a woman?
It was a show on discovery or TLC or something, fucking wierd. Some guy put both his legs in a bucket of dry ice and ehtn went to the hospital after the legs died and had to be amputated at that point. So he got what he wanted, but regretted it as did others i think.blueta2 said:
blueta2
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jnevin said:
Perfectly normal, no. But I believe one has to be their true self but not to the point of abusing themselves.
She needed to feel her authentic self and did that. She's happy and that's really all that matter.
My sister has had a lot of plastic surgery to make herself happy. I don't approve, but one needs to walk their own path.
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