My first cycle

[Grimwood1992]

So guys

Thought I would post up just for some wisdom and also a record of my first cycle

I'm doing 500mg test e per week for 10 weeks
And anabol/Oxys 50mg per day for 4 weeks as a kick start

I'm 23 and have been lifting for 5 years consistently

Currently weight 83kg
5ft 10
Bf unknown if I had to haze id say circa 15%

I started on the 2nd of January

I'm going to be pinning my quads throughout. My first jab went well but I forgot to Asperate however jab didn't hurt at all. However I limped around for 4-5 days due to the after pain. Obviously practice makes perfect
My second jab this Sunday and I made sure I Asperated this time. Went in a little slow so I heard the skin tear which was cringe. However I would rather be a bit more precise then doing it too fast and get a rebound twitch. However this time I made sure I massaged for around 10 minutes and done some light squats and then went for a walk. Safe to say the pain only last for 1-2 days which I'm happy with.

The anadrol has definately kick in now I'm definately fuller and the strength is there for sure. I won't be going higher than 50mg ED as I want to keep side effect to a minimum

Prior to my cycle I as natural spotty on my back and Chest so was really worried about the acne side effect.

I've been having 2 teaspoons of apple cider vinegar upon waking and also 5gs of vitamin b5 throughout the day. Also showering twice a day and my evening shower I get my Mrs to run tea tree soap all over my back. Safe to safe it's cleared up loads already.:9 hopefully when the sides really kick it it will still keep it at bay. I will resort to subbeds if I have to but would prefer not too if I can get away with it.

I feel as though either the b5 or than anadrol is playing havoc with my stomach though had a bit of a belly ache all day for sure. And eating my third meal was certainly more difficult than I anticipated as I'll eat anything lol.

Diet is going to be really clean throughout the process

Example day of food
Meal 1 beef stew with loads of veg and 100g dry weight of white basmati rice

Meal 2 200g tuna and 100g of the same rice

Meal 3 large chicken breast and 100g dry weight rice

Pre workout coffee and creatine

Scivation xtend bcaas throughout workout

Post workout
40g optimum nutrition gold standard weigh
70g maltodextrin
With some additional creatine


Post workout meal

200g beef lean mince and 200gs White potatoe

Handful of cashews between meal 1-2
Avocado between meal 2-3
Omega 3 tabs with most meals

PCT
18-21 days after last jab
Week 1: 500iu hcg mon - fri
Week 2: 500iu hcg 50mg clomid mon - fri
Week 3: 50mg clomid mon - fri

Novadex will be on hand in case of gyno

Any thought welcome

I appreciate drop may be harsh for first cycle however I really wanna pack on some serious size and with my pct retain as much as possible

 

[Grimwood1992]

As you can see I have been a member since 2012 and have quietly been doing my research. This cycle was not done on a whim

 

[bigstan1]

Why jumping on such a strong compound as anadrol for your first cycle? In my opinion you could just go with dbol for a kick-start on the same dose.

 

[Grimwood1992]

If I'm completely honest this was the better branded between the two on offer from a friend. And got them cheap as they were a remainder of the 100 box he had so can't complain. From my research they are not overly different and although a harsh compound in on a low dosage and will only be doing 4 weeks max.

Although I think it would have probably been my preference judging by the research I've seen many more people seem to be using dbol
Thanks all the same bro

 

[bigorse]

pct is crap man.

you need to run serms for at least 4 weeks.
nolva 40 40 20 20 10
clomid 50 25 25 25

stop hcg use 5 days prior to using serms

 

[BULKTIME]

Juice up on the B5 for acne... 3/4 teaspoon (buy bulk powder) 2x day for a week to get used to it then go up to 4-5x/ day as needed.

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[Grimwood1992]

So this morning I got woke up at around 5am with stomach ache, I'm not sure if it the drol or the vitamin b5 I've been taking in high dosage. Not sure which one to Come off of. It's not a gassy stomach and I'm not passing wind really. Just my stomach feel like it's in knots

 

[bigstan1]

It could be both, vitamin b5 can cause stomach issues in high doses, always happens with me in the beginning. You could just wait a few more days and see if your body will get used to it, in case the pain is not an overkill.

 

[Grimwood1992]

Ok I'm gonna make sure I take the drol with food today and cut down slightly on the b5 see how I get on

 

[bigstan1]

good luck

 

[Grimwood1992]

So I really don't think the mass gain is worth the side effect with drol.

I'm only in 50mg each day. But so far my gut is ruined. And I know it's not my diet as I've eating this way for a while now with no problems. The only thing I added was carbs back into meal 1

So my stomach is in knots. My sleeping is fucked and constantly waking every few hours.
And my appetite has completely dissapeared due to the sick feeling I have.

So the question is. Do I -

Drop down to 25mg ED
Cut the drol and get some dbol to replace

Or cut the Orals all together and stick with the test e only?

Thanks all in advance

 

[Grimwood1992]

So I only took 25mg yesterday morning after a big meal and low and behold
I still have the stomach pains especially after eating my stomach woukd feel like it would contract then realease and was doing summersaults all night.

Woke up this morning and I actually feel hungry and the pain has gone other than the hunger pain. So gonna eat my first meal and if I stil have no problems I know it's the oxy and I will stop them and just carry on with the test e stand alone. Which from what I have read people still get great results with anyway.

 

[bigstan1]

well.. you were warned

your body may not be accepting the anadrol, better leave it off as you might be left with gastritis or something, who knows what is actually happening into your body. Drol is definitely not a first-cycle compound. Good luck

 

[Grimwood1992]

Thanks man. Yeah I'm gonna lay off it for sure. Do you think I should get some dbol or not bother?

 

[Grimwood1992]

So guys I cut the drol after 10 days and have just stuck to the test e only

I'm now up to 13 st 12 from 13st 2

Granted certainly I can see some fat gains around my stomach which is to be expected whilst trying to bulk. However I would like it not to get to excessive

Would it be worth doing a week on low calories to battle some of the far gains and then increase again. Or should I wait until I'm 6-7 weeks in and then drop my calories for the remained weeks?