My favorite diet: Animalbolics

[ProtienFiend]

It has interesting ideas, and is very effective. Its like a TKD but better! I use most of the concepts from it but have added in some of my own elements to suit myself..... Enjoy!

http://www.ironmag.com/archive/ironmag/1999_eh_animalbolics_p1.htm

http://www.ironmag.com/archive/ironmag/1999_eh_animalbolics_p2.htm

http://www.ironmag.com/archive/ironmag/1999_eh_animalbolics_p3.htm

 

[ProtienFiend]

I command you to read!

 

[Black03SVTCobra]

Interesting, I am reading them right now.

 

[SgtSlaughter]

Whatever works for ya!




Experimentation is the name of the game and figuring out what your body likes best

 

[ProtienFiend]

What do you all think?!?! Its telling you why you get fat from eating 6 times per day!!!

 

[javaguru]

I eat at least six times per day and I'm definitely not fat. However, I utilize carb timing so that I eat carbs first thing in the morning, before my workout, during and immediately after. The intention is to limit the times of elevated insulin, same theory behind animalbolics. I generally consume 200g-250g of carbs a day and 80% are consumed around my workout. I think there are advantages to consuming protein regularly throughout the day.

 

[Lextasy]

damn, first... eating not enough=no go, then 2nd, eating 5-6 times a day=no go, now its controlling the few times you eat a day (i.e. back to not enough)... but hey it makes perfect sense, and now that i come to think of it, i actually became leaner when i was only eating 1-3 times a day it just depended on when... and how. That was about a year ago, and now that im the way i wanna be, im eating 5-6 times a day (hi protien) but only seeing minimal gains...

Gonna be tryin this as my new diet, and ill report after a good while(3weeks) with my info.

 

[Lextasy]

I eat at least six times per day and I'm definitely not fat. However, I utilize carb timing so that I eat carbs first thing in the morning, before my workout, during and immediately after. The intention is to limit the times of elevated insulin, same theory behind animalbolics. I generally consume 200g-250g of carbs a day and 80% are consumed around my workout. I think there are advantages to consuming protein regularly throughout the day.

i just cant completly cut carbs (soo yummy) as many do... say after 3 or 4pm cut carbs out....

Although with this diet i will be implementing more protien (ie shakes) i eat probably 3-4 shakes ON Pro Gainer a day and with this new diet, maybe 5 a day with low gi foods all day besides that and then of course the BIG "proper" meal after a workout.

ive got working out down, and my diet is exceptional, but i snack alot--although they arnt bad foods, ushally pb sandwich, yogurt, something.

 

[ProtienFiend]

I eat at least six times per day and I'm definitely not fat. However, I utilize carb timing so that I eat carbs first thing in the morning, before my workout, during and immediately after. The intention is to limit the times of elevated insulin, same theory behind animalbolics. I generally consume 200g-250g of carbs a day and 80% are consumed around my workout. I think there are advantages to consuming protein regularly throughout the day.

Exactly! I do a similar thing. Its all based around animal's idea though ... I just modify it to suit me. Basically only eat carbs when you know you need them!

 

[javaguru]

I wonder if anyone has used it for "bulking", I'm not gaining anymore muscle unless I juice or use other drugs so I can't experiment with it for gaining mass.

 

[ProtienFiend]

I wonder if anyone has used it for "bulking", I'm not gaining anymore muscle unless I juice or use other drugs so I can't experiment with it for gaining mass.

I (sort of) bulked with it. I basically ate a lot (see: shit load) on days I worked out, then toned it down a notch on other days (and lowered carbs). Worked great! 25lbs in 10 weeks with maybe 5 lbs fat tops!

Edit: for me thats great. I put on fat (and weight in general) very easily. Im the epitome of mesomorph. Maybe 4k on workout and 2k on non-wrkout days. (rough estimates)

Mostly I aimed for 1xbw/lb for grams of protein and 1.5xbw/lb for grams of carbs on workout days. After that it was all gravy. Non workout days I kept carbs as low glycemic as possible.

 

[OMEGA]

Great diet

 

[wellbilt]

i might have to try this it definetley sounds interesting
i just dont know about not eating in the morning
i definetley dont go and sit behind a desk
maybe just a protien shake
thanks for posting that i enjoyed reading them i think i iwlll read again

 

[ProtienFiend]

i might have to try this it definetley sounds interesting
i just dont know about not eating in the morning
i definetley dont go and sit behind a desk
maybe just a protien shake
thanks for posting that i enjoyed reading them i think i iwlll read again

You do eat in the morning but keep it according to your activity level. If possible, limit it to a shake, eggs, or fruit. Theres this cereal called "GOLEAN" that has a really good nutrient breakdown. I dont shun that either.

If you workout early in the day, then this is your time to eat! I used to workout in the early afternoon, and from then untill I went to sleep, it was buffet time!

 

[wellbilt]

i will usually work out in the evening so from 7 ocolck to about 6 im working but its poretty physical work
my moirning meakl is usually a shake and a grapefruit followed by sanother small meal 2 hours later
i guess im gonna try and modify this alil and use it to help cut
i eat every 2-3 hours and according to the article this is keeping me from burnign fat so what would the recomended meal frequency be for someone looking to lean out

 

[jpt]

Anyone who claims to patent or copyright this diet is full of shit. Our ancestors were doing this at the dawn of civilization. They'd hunt all day, barely eating and then make a kill and feast at night. These guys were lean, ripped and powerful.

hahaha....how the fawk does this guy know how lean early civilization was???

in the first part he says only have coffee and a salad ...then have some oatmeal before you workout.... but in the sample diet he has like 4 meals before you actually workout (kind of a contradiction)

it seems like he is just telling you to carb load before and after you lift and intake none up until then...this isn't really a new diet...i think most of us time our majority carbs pre, during and post workout. but instead of having carbs early in the day he switched them to night....i'm open minded and have tried every diet there is, but i don't agree with your body going on just coffee and maybe one protein shake or salad all day....then carb load at night before bed when you body doesn't require energy.

i'm a skeptic on this one...but knowing me i'll get tired of my current diet and try this one a for a few weeks

 

[Lextasy]

You do eat in the morning but keep it according to your activity level. If possible, limit it to a shake, eggs, or fruit. Theres this cereal called "GOLEAN" that has a really good nutrient breakdown. I dont shun that either.

If you workout early in the day, then this is your time to eat! I used to workout in the early afternoon, and from then untill I went to sleep, it was buffet time!

ok so i wake around 10, workout around 1-3pm... what should i do, im on a bulk although im keepin my bf down.... shakes from wake until workout then eat a big meal after and load up on food the rest of the day? or just that one big meal after the workout and then shake it or very small foods until bed?

 

[Mr.X]

It's a TKD diet with starvation periods...last time I checked anorexia wasn't a good dieting technique.

 

[jpt]

agreed mr x

 

[ProtienFiend]

It's a TKD diet with starvation periods...last time I checked anorexia wasn't a good dieting technique.

Never said it was. But I do think it is a good idea to get most of your days calories in around your workout. It also doesnt promote ketosis so its actually NOT like a TKD.

 

[ProtienFiend]

i will usually work out in the evening so from 7 ocolck to about 6 im working but its poretty physical work
my moirning meakl is usually a shake and a grapefruit followed by sanother small meal 2 hours later
i guess im gonna try and modify this alil and use it to help cut
i eat every 2-3 hours and according to the article this is keeping me from burnign fat so what would the recomended meal frequency be for someone looking to lean out

You did mention you do physical work throughout the day so you have to adjust your diet accordingly. Id say, fruit and eggs in the morning (6am). Followed by two more low gi protein/fat meals (@10am and 2pm). An apple on your way over to the gym and then pig out time until you go to sleep. On non-workout days nix the apple, pwo shake, and "pig out" parts and replace it with a small dinner low as possible with carbs (all your doing is sleeping right?).

As an aside, my addition to animal's ideology on the 5-6 meals making you fat is: "5-6 meals make you fat [if they contain carbs]" he doesnt explicitly say that but its what he means, because in the absence of carbs there is no insulin [spike].

 

[ProtienFiend]

hahaha....how the fawk does this guy know how lean early civilization was???

in the first part he says only have coffee and a salad ...then have some oatmeal before you workout.... but in the sample diet he has like 4 meals before you actually workout (kind of a contradiction)

it seems like he is just telling you to carb load before and after you lift and intake none up until then...this isn't really a new diet...i think most of us time our majority carbs pre, during and post workout. but instead of having carbs early in the day he switched them to night....i'm open minded and have tried every diet there is, but i don't agree with your body going on just coffee and maybe one protein shake or salad all day....then carb load at night before bed when you body doesn't require energy.

i'm a skeptic on this one...but knowing me i'll get tired of my current diet and try this one a for a few weeks

People from early civilization are thought to be "ripped" due to the way they were portrayed in sculptures, paintings, etc... Although its no garauntee, people most likely painted what they saw (unless it was religion/mythology)

You are right on in your third paragraph. This isnt rocket science. You are basically eating according to energy levels. About the night time loading part, your body will be using these cals to repair all your muscle tissue while you sleep. Remember hormones (gh, test) spike during sleep and supposedly we grow the most at night (during rest), so why not supply our body with as much food as it needs.

I know the skeptic feeling but it does indeed work. I do believe through this diet it is possibly to gain muscle and burn fat naturally, if executed correctly. Just be careful not to go too drastic with things. You still want to get your calorie/protein/carb goals within the 24 period, and want to maintain positive nitrogen balance (through protein intake) throughout the day.

 

[ProtienFiend]

ok so i wake around 10, workout around 1-3pm... what should i do, im on a bulk although im keepin my bf down.... shakes from wake until workout then eat a big meal after and load up on food the rest of the day? or just that one big meal after the workout and then shake it or very small foods until bed?

College? Do you do anything before 1pm? If you were as I was when in school, I would have not eaten much (or anything, maybe eggs or a milk protein shake) after awakening and then grabbed some fruit on my way to the gym.

After workout Id follow your first suggestion (lets say @ 430pm). Shake and carbs, then either another shake or a big meal (5-530pm), and then whatever you can stuff in for the rest of the day. Just dont overdo it with shakes. They are a SUPPLEMENT. Set a MINIMUM goal before bed -- no limits. Minimum for me was approx 1g protein per lb of bw and 1.5g carb per lb of bw between workout and sleep. It can look like a lot but believe me, you wont be storing much of it as fat (unless you have some underlying condition).

 

[Lextasy]

thanks, thats all i was wondering...yea, the shakes are only replacments, and im basiclly doing this already i just need to cut the carbs before the workout..

 

[Cutt29]

It's a TKD diet with starvation periods...last time I checked anorexia wasn't a good dieting technique.

agreed!

 

[ProtienFiend]

I just added up my cals.... about 2400 on non-workout days and about 3400 on workout days. An extra 80 protein and 100 carbs on workout days approximately.

 

[ProtienFiend]

agreed!

No no no!! Its not starvation...... its called nutrient timing! Although rather meticulous.... if you just use it as a guideline it is very helpful and can stilll give you some freedom with food choices (especially post workout... GET EVERYTHING).