My current cycle

[The_Chemist]

Ok........now that nelson is gone, back to the topic at hand.

My question for BA is:

I had horrible side effects from my last cycle off NPP. Its clear that I dont tolerate deca very well, and was wondering if Bold Prop would be a comparable short acting ester in terms of strength??

Any thoughts?

 

[trinidad]

It depends on your previous experience with deca. I think 350mg per week along with dbol is a good first cycle. I think you should aim for 150mg EOD if I remember your experience level correctly.

I'll try bumping it up to 150 eod. I've tried deca 2 or 3 times in the past, got gyno from it the last time. I don't fair too well on dbol either....blood pressure skyrockets. I'll run the prop/100 NPP 150 eod and see how that goes but what about only running it for 6-7 wks.? Why isn't it recommended to run it longer if it's basically deca?

 

[BigAndy69]

Ok........now that nelson is gone, back to the topic at hand.

My question for BA is:

I had horrible side effects from my last cycle off NPP. Its clear that I dont tolerate deca very well, and was wondering if Bold Prop would be a comparable short acting ester in terms of strength??

Any thoughts?

lol

I really can't recommend Bold prop to anyone. You have to make a decision if you want to use it or not. The sides are fairly harsh. I'm having extremely painful hunger pains that will not go away. It is very strong, strength gains are very good.

I will do a little write up on it in another post

 

[BigAndy69]

I'll try bumping it up to 150 eod. I've tried deca 2 or 3 times in the past, got gyno from it the last time. I don't fair too well on dbol either....blood pressure skyrockets. I'll run the prop/100 NPP 150 eod and see how that goes but what about only running it for 6-7 wks.? Why isn't it recommended to run it longer if it's basically deca?

Nandrolone is very strong and can shut you down hard. Add a long ester to it and you can easily see why so many ppl run into problems with deca.

NPP is great because it is in and out of your system quickly. You see results right away and there really is no reason to go past 6-7 weeks. When you run it for a long time, you run into the same problems you would with deca.

My suggestion:

150mg NPP EOD for 6 weeks
100mg Prop EOD for 8 weeks

Nice additions:

Winny or dbol.

 

[trinidad]

Nandrolone is very strong and can shut you down hard. Add a long ester to it and you can easily see why so many ppl run into problems with deca.

NPP is great because it is in and out of your system quickly. You see results right away and there really is no reason to go past 6-7 weeks. When you run it for a long time, you run into the same problems you would with deca.

My suggestion:

150mg NPP EOD for 6 weeks
100mg Prop EOD for 8 weeks

Nice additions:

Winny or dbol.

Looks good, I have enough to bump it up to 150. I'll post results as they come. I also took a before picture so I can compare the results better. I'll post those if it's worth it when I finish the NPP.

 

[SPORT SCIENTIST]

Just wke up, man there been a lot of shit spread around. Wheres the karma!

Big A; you put forward a convincing arguement- thanks for the explanation. Do the long esters take about 3-4 weeks to reach elevated level?- as my strength increased a lot around about this mark.

 

[BigAndy69]

Just wke up, man there been a lot of shit spread around. Wheres the karma!

Big A; you put forward a convincing arguement- thanks for the explanation. Do the long esters take about 3-4 weeks to reach elevated level?- as my strength increased a lot around about this mark.

Yes, it takes about 3-4 weeks for blood levels to stay consistent. Long esters are not the best way to cycle, lots of wasted time. Short esters are much more efficient but EOD-ED injections are not fun especially since short esters tend to hurt more as well.

 

[BigAndy69]

finally, jeeze, that took you guys long enough...


ill ask again cause my question was probably lost in all of mr.cunts bullshit, what does EQ prop compare to as far as pain, is it close to unbearible? bad as suspension? little worse than sustanon? i would love to use it in my upcoming cycle maybe in place of npp because i can control the hairloss from that with dutasteride, npp is kind of a mystery. And if i can avoid an experiment with the npp that may result in the demise of my hairline (or whats left of it lol), id rather go the eq route. thanks

Yes, in the suspension pain range. Dutasteride? I'm not entirely familiar with this drug. Assuming it acts the same way as finasteride, it will be useless in blocking hairloss from EQ. I've done 2 EQ prop inject this week, at 2ml EOD with 1ml prop EOD...will update everyone in a bit.

 

[DaveTSI]

Yes, in the suspension pain range. Dutasteride? I'm not entirely familiar with this drug. Assuming it acts the same way as finasteride, it will be useless in blocking hairloss from EQ. I've done 2 EQ prop inject this week, at 2ml EOD with 1ml prop EOD...will update everyone in a bit.

i thought dutasteride and finasteride worked with every test derived drug like dbol and eq. EQ IS a derivative of test correct or am i confused?

 

[The Shadow]

i thought dutasteride and finasteride worked with every test derived drug like dbol and eq. EQ IS a derivative of test correct or am i confused?

finasteride works by inhibiting the activity of an enzyme, 5 alpha-reductase, so it blocks the transformation of testosterone to dihydrotestosterone


EQ isn't metabolically deactivated by 5a -reductase.