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THE 5.0-LITER IS BACK: 2011 FORD MUSTANG GT LEADS CLASS WITH 412 HP, FUEL EFFICIENCY, CHASSIS DYNAMICS

The New 2011 Mustang GT 5.0L

Login to download images.The new Mustang GT continues Ford’s powertrain offensive with an all-new 5.0-liter V-8, which uses advanced technology to deliver 412 horsepower and projected unsurpassed highway mileage of 25 mpg
For 2011, Mustan
g GT adds specially tuned Electric Power Assist Steering (EPAS), 11.5-inch front and 11.8-inch rear vented disc brakes, and an enhanced suspension featuring an improved rear lower control arm and stiffened rear stabilizer bushings

For enthusiasts, a Brembo brake package, with larger rotors and calipers from the Ford Shelby GT500® Mustang, unique 19-inch wheels and summer performance tires, is offered; new fender badges herald return of the 5.0-liter engine

NEW 2011 MUSTANG MEDIA SITE

DEARBORN, Mich., Dec. 28, 2009 – The 5.0 is back! The 2011 Ford Mustang GT arrives with an all-new advanced 5.0-liter V-8 engine, developed by a passionate cadre of enthusiastic engineers who rallied around the common goal of delivering more than 400 horsepower.

The modern 5.0-liter four-valve Twin Independent Variable Camshaft Timing (Ti-VCT) V-8 engine in the new Mustang GT will deliver 412 horsepower and 390 ft.-lb. of torque. At the same time, fuel economy is projected to be better than the previous model and unsurpassed in the segment.

“This all-new 5.0-liter engine is the next chapter in the development of the world-class Mustang powertrain portfolio,” said Derrick Kuzak, group vice president, Global Product Development. “It’s a thoroughly modern engine for the times, delivering the performance and fun-to-drive factor that enthusiasts want, while improving fuel economy.”

Coyote in the lobby
Many of the engineers on the development team have worked in the Engine and Electrical Engineering Building on the Dearborn, Mich., product development center campus. For years they walked past the original 5.0-liter V-8 Coyote Indy racing engine on display in the lobby, continually inspired by its mix of heritage, high technology and horsepower.

The powertrain development community had long wanted to develop a new 5.0-liter powertrain, with strategic discussions beginning in 2000. By 2007, the Mustang competitive landscape was beginning to change, a sign that the time was right for advancing the Mustang GT powertrain to world-class levels.

The team began 5.0-liter engine development with the objective of delivering 400-plus horsepower, on a timetable accelerated by 12 months without compromises in reliability, durability, fuel economy, or noise, vibration and harshness (NVH) control.

“Nearly all of the team members have worked on other high-profile powertrain programs,” said V-8 Engine Programs Manager Mike Harrison. “They all had a clear vision of the work required on their particular component or subsystem. Their passion for engines, racing and delivering every last ounce of performance throughout the engine speed range really demonstrated that they put their heads and their hearts into this powertrain.”

Development test engines and benchmarks included 5.0-liter blocks, employing different bore and stroke measurements, GT500 four-valve-per-cylinder heads and cams, various intake manifold runner configurations, differing compression ratios and a deep-sump oil pan. The team also evaluated Ford Racing’s 5.0-liter “Cammer” V-8 crate engine for transferable best practices.

Extensive computer-aided engineering (CAE) modeling, development engine experimentation and evaluation in combination with intricate machine work brought this promising, all-new configuration to jaw-dropping life in an accelerated time frame.

The result of this development is an “and” solution, not an “or.” 2011 Mustang buyers will enjoy the benefits of a powerful engine as well as responsible fuel economy.

Ti-VCT
A critical element in the 5.0-liter V-8’s ability to deliver 412 horsepower, with improved drivability, tractability and fuel economy over the 2010 Mustang GT powertrain, is enhanced Ti-VCT.

For a high-performance application, the team specified cam-torque-actuated variable camshaft timing. Using existing cam torque energy, with assistance from pressurized oil, meant that minimal upgrades to the oil pump were required, resulting in less parasitic drag. Increased volumetric and thermal efficiency gives faster Ti-VCT response at all engine speeds.

During the development phase, camshaft lift profile and port optimization started with higher-lift Ford Racing aftermarket units, modified for compatibility with various four-valve-per-cylinder heads. Extensive CAE and dynamometer testing was performed to fine-tune camshaft events and port flow for performance and fuel efficiency in conjunction with the variable camshaft timing.

The resulting all-new aluminum four-valve-per-cylinder heads feature a compact roller finger follower valvetrain layout leaving more room for high-flow ports for free-breathing performance. Head structure was designed to support higher cylinder head pressures and cross-flow cooling for sustained high-rpm use. Head bolt size was increased from 11 to 12 millimeters to contain the higher combustion pressures.

The aluminum block was developed for optimized windage and oil drainback under lateral conditions and high rpm, such as a track-day outing for an enthusiastic owner and driver. Increased main bearing bulkhead widths and nodular iron cross-bolted main bearing caps with upsized bolts were also employed to accommodate the significant performance increase.

An additional element is the increased capacity and baffling of the deep-sump stamped steel oil pan to enable sustained high-rpm use and offer the convenience of 10,000-mile oil change intervals. Piston-cooling jets also were incorporated for performance-minded customers and for faster oil warm-up on cold start.

Specially designed tubular exhaust headers were developed to maximize exhaust pulse separation and improve flow. A team analyst actually fabricated the tubular headers in his home workshop, bringing the CAE design to life.

Performance and fuel economy
The 412 horsepower and 390 ft.-lb. of torque delivered by the 2011 Mustang GT 5.0-liter V-8 represent significant increases versus the 2010 model year output levels.

The six-speed automatic transmission on the 2011 Mustang GT will deliver up to an estimated 25 mpg highway and 17 in the city. This is up from 23 mpg highway and 17 city for the 2010 model. Six-speed manual transmission Mustang GT models for 2011 are projected to deliver 24 mpg highway and 16 city, matching the 2010 model but delivering significantly more horsepower and performance feel.

2011 Mustang GT fuel economy is enabled by the Ti-VCT, the six-speed transmissions in automatic or manual variations, EPAS and an additional rear decklid seal to enhance aerodynamics.

Fuel economy also is aided by engineering a lightweight powertrain. The engine, as shipped, weighs just 430 pounds. This represents a weight savings of more than 20 percent versus the previous 5.0-liter offering. Lower mass can be attributed to the aluminum block and heads, the lightweight composite intake manifold, composite cam covers and hollow camshafts.

Improved driving dynamics
EPAS has made a dramatic contribution to Mustang GT driving dynamics, delivering quicker on-center steering response, increased effort at highway speeds and reduced effort required in low-speed parking maneuvers. EPAS allows specific tuning for the Mustang GT application.

The 2011 Mustang GT features an enhanced rear lower control arm to add stiffness, improve powertrain NVH control and sharpen handling. A stiffened rear stabilizer bar for better on-center steering is also included. Stabilizer bar diameters, spring rates and dampers all have been tuned for improved dynamics.

A Brembo brake package upgrade will be available for serious enthusiasts. This package includes 14-inch vented front discs from the GT500 Mustang, unique 19-inch alloy wheels and summer performance tires.

Added convenience content
For 2011, Mustang GT offers drivers several new convenience technologies, including:

Standard message center
Integrated blind spot mirrors
MyKey™ programmable vehicle key
Illuminated visors
Universal garage door opener
Sun visor storage
New look
From the 5.0 fender badges to the new engine cover, Mustang GT honors and continues the proud heritage of its predecessors. The speedometer increases to 160 mph and the tachometer redline advances from 6,500 to 7,000 rpm.

Three vibrant new colors will be added for 2011 including Yellow Blaze Tri-Coat, Race Red and Ingot Silver.

Improved NVH control and convertible rigidity
For 2011, Mustang GT benefits from across-the-board NVH improvements. These include additional sound-deadening material on either side of the instrument panel, additional sound absorbtion behind interior trim panels and a real wheel arch liner to reduce noise on gravel or wet surfaces.

Mustang GT convertible models feature enhanced structural rigidity, with lateral stiffness improved by 12 percent versus the 2010 model. A tower-to-tower front strut brace is now standard, and the V-brace has been stiffened by adding gussets. The secondary crossmember also has been stiffened while a front Z-brace has been added, connecting primary and secondary crossmembers. A-pillar stiffening foam also has been added to increase rigidity.

“This powertrain honors Mustang’s heritage by raising the bar on performance while increasing fuel economy,” said Barb Samardzich, vice president, Powertrain Development. “For enthusiasts, such as the passionate members of the 5.0-liter V-8 team, it’s like having your cake and eating it, too.”
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always wanted a 5.0 when I was in high school... think I've grown out of that stage though
 
funny how the badges only look good on the fox's. i thought the dohc 3.7L v6 was more impressive in a wtFAWK kinda way.
 
Know what Mustangs do when they are cornering hard and one of the rear tires hits a little bump or pothole?

Crash.
 
so will any other car.


Mustang have, and have always had, a solid rear axle. Mom-mobiles like the Accord had a fully independent double wishbone rear suspension 18 years ago. Any car with pretensions to be a sports car sure as hell should not have a solid rear axle in 2009.

Solid rear axles are much more likely to unsettle the entire rear end of the car when a single wheel hits a bump or pothole in a lateral acceleration situation.
 
Mustang have, and have always had, a solid rear axle. Mom-mobiles like the Accord had a fully independent double wishbone rear suspension 18 years ago. Any car with pretensions to be a sports car sure as hell should not have a solid rear axle in 2009.

Solid rear axles are much more likely to unsettle the entire rear end of the car when a single wheel hits a bump or pothole in a lateral acceleration situation.

i dont even know you anymore.
 
03/04 termi's came with irs and a lot of people with them ripped them out because they are worthless. solid weighs less and unless your turning your car into a track queen or driving around town like burt reynolds it shouldn't matter. a lot of the 03/04 mach 1 guys opted to add irs because they hook better with them in the quarter mile. i'm a dodge guy at heart and take no offense to mustang bashing. anything can happen to any car in any situation. to say mustangs are prone to that is naive. common sense tells you if you have a sold axle don't take corners hard.
 
Mustang have, and have always had, a solid rear axle. Mom-mobiles like the Accord had a fully independent double wishbone rear suspension 18 years ago. Any car with pretensions to be a sports car sure as hell should not have a solid rear axle in 2009.

Solid rear axles are much more likely to unsettle the entire rear end of the car when a single wheel hits a bump or pothole in a lateral acceleration situation.

why hasnt ford ever changed it?

mustangs suck imo, so sloppy on the road...
 
Older Honda civics and Toyota camrys came with double wish ones front and back but apparently it's still a bad idea to take an off ramp at 100 mph ...
 
why hasnt ford ever changed it?

mustangs suck imo, so sloppy on the road...

When they were developing the current gen they answered that criticism by automotive press by saying it was a cost saving decision. I think it's b/c 'stangs have always appealed to the dragster/poseur set, and they simply don't care about stuff like that.
 
it will be good for going in a str8 line or doughnuts. other than that its meh. i'll take my broke as jap supercar.
 
not only did I resurrect it, but I moved this fucker back from the Luxury forum so you'd see it.

MOD POWERS!

Also lol at mustangs being luxury, theyre the poor mans vette.
Also lol at teh noob mod impressed with teh powerz
 
havent read all the pages to know if this is on topic but im happy ford has put some power back in the gt. now all they have to do is make these pigs handle for once :)

cant wait to beat these at the track. jp but really im happy they did this. saw a tuning company in the 11's already with bolt ons, tune and slicks. easy.
 
Also lol at mustangs being luxury, theyre the poor mans vette.
Also lol at teh noob mod impressed with teh powerz


You gonna get one? Certainly sounds like an assload of go power for under 35k? I'd expect it to be damn near as fast as my car and for 15 grand less.
 
havent read all the pages to know if this is on topic but im happy ford has put some power back in the gt. now all they have to do is make these pigs handle for once :)

cant wait to beat these at the track. jp but really im happy they did this. saw a tuning company in the 11's already with bolt ons, tune and slicks. easy.

I said the same thing at the beginning of the thread. 'stang boys don't give a crap about handling, so it's still farting around with its live axle.

11's with bolt-ons and a tune would be really good for a Mustang.
The one time I took it to the track with 8k break in miles, a CAI, and a fairly mild tune and I only got 11.6 in my Corvette. For a much cheaper car with the same cheap mods to get basically the same is impressive. Unless you meant headers too.
 
You gonna get one? Certainly sounds like an assload of go power for under 35k? I'd expect it to be damn near as fast as my car and for 15 grand less.

Ive got a jap beater for all the miles i drive for business and my v-star that I like so dont really want to spend cabbage on a 3rd vehicle. Motorcycles are more fun for less cabbage anyhow so think im going to stick with that.
 
Motorcycles are more fun for less cabbage anyhow so think im going to stick with that.

Totally agree! Wish I'd realized that a few years ago. I pay $4800 a year in insurance on the Vette and $640 a year on the T100 and the latter is at least as much fun, maybe more.
 
i might get one of these for a work car.
i got a older bentley continetal (2007) that i use for offroading.
 
I said the same thing at the beginning of the thread. 'stang boys don't give a crap about handling, so it's still farting around with its live axle.

11's with bolt-ons and a tune would be really good for a Mustang.
The one time I took it to the track with 8k break in miles, a CAI, and a fairly mild tune and I only got 11.6 in my Corvette. For a much cheaper car with the same cheap mods to get basically the same is impressive. Unless you meant headers too.

i know im a noob to thse boards but are you really infact a women talking about cars like that?? if so are you married lol.

live axle is ftl. but chevy needs to step up their handling game some too. they got the space frame right on the z06 but the leaf springs are still hanging around. New camaro has the looks to drop panties but its a tank. They arent with the times on a car like that. the new 370z is much lighter and more agile. the power difference is hardly felt with the weight differences. better interior on the 370 but thats subjective.

what year is your vette? and whats done to it for it to go 11.6. Im on the complete other side of the fence haha. i drive a all motor civic that does deep 12's. could go 11's this year. but im a car guy in general. anything fast is cool with me.
 
i know im a noob to thse boards but are you really infact a women talking about cars like that?? if so are you married lol.

live axle is ftl. but chevy needs to step up their handling game some too. they got the space frame right on the z06 but the leaf springs are still hanging around. New camaro has the looks to drop panties but its a tank. They arent with the times on a car like that. the new 370z is much lighter and more agile. the power difference is hardly felt with the weight differences. better interior on the 370 but thats subjective.

what year is your vette? and whats done to it for it to go 11.6. Im on the complete other side of the fence haha. i drive a all motor civic that does deep 12's. could go 11's this year. but im a car guy in general. anything fast is cool with me.

what block do you run? B18, B16, H22, one of the new K series, one of those frankenstein B20 blocks with a B18C head? I used to know my way around a honda...
 
what block do you run? B18, B16, H22, one of the new K series, one of those frankenstein B20 blocks with a B18C head? I used to know my way around a honda...

cammed k20a(type r)
intake manifold, custom header, 3 inch straight pipe, injectors obviously. thats pretty much it and its good for 260whp dynapack or 230whp on a dyno dynamics (heart break dyno).

its in a 96 midori green hatch.
 
My 97 GTI VR6 with EIP tuning turbo 430hp, Koni shocks, nuespeed springs, Tectonics Tuning exh, OZ racing rims, would rip the face off most cars talked bout here. Especially on the backroads :cool:
fuck I miss that car :confused:
 
i know im a noob to thse boards but are you really infact a women talking about cars like that?? if so are you married lol.

live axle is ftl. but chevy needs to step up their handling game some too. they got the space frame right on the z06 but the leaf springs are still hanging around. New camaro has the looks to drop panties but its a tank. They arent with the times on a car like that. the new 370z is much lighter and more agile. the power difference is hardly felt with the weight differences. better interior on the 370 but thats subjective.

what year is your vette? and whats done to it for it to go 11.6. Im on the complete other side of the fence haha. i drive a all motor civic that does deep 12's. could go 11's this year. but im a car guy in general. anything fast is cool with me.

The 370 is an awesome car. My only beef with it is the new engine is down on torque, but there are plenty of aftermarket IM's for it that bring up the torque easy enough (sacrifice some hp in the trade though).

my Vette is an '08. Bone stock w/o break in they do 12.4, so it's not hard at all shave .8 off that. It got faster with just the break in miles alone. All I added was a CAI and got what the shop called a fairly mild tune. Added only maybe 10% bhp, but even that brought it up to around 455 bhp.

I used to be all over Hondas. If you can search for it you can find a very old thread about my "fire breathing RSX". HEAVILY modded '04 I had back in the day. Supercharged, decked, bored out with liners, headers...christ tons of shit. The wheel horse was in the low 400's (yeah whp) It was all kinds of quick. Still had shit for torque, but that's the way those engines are.
 
The 370 is an awesome car. My only beef with it is the new engine is down on torque, but there are plenty of aftermarket IM's for it that bring up the torque easy enough (sacrifice some hp in the trade though).

my Vette is an '08. Bone stock w/o break in they do 12.4, so it's not hard at all shave .8 off that. It got faster with just the break in miles alone. All I added was a CAI and got what the shop called a fairly mild tune. Added only maybe 10% bhp, but even that brought it up to around 455 bhp.

I used to be all over Hondas. If you can search for it you can find a very old thread about my "fire breathing RSX". HEAVILY modded '04 I had back in the day. Supercharged, decked, bored out with liners, headers...christ tons of shit. The wheel horse was in the low 400's (yeah whp) It was all kinds of quick. Still had shit for torque, but that's the way those engines are.


The same reason my 6 cyl VR6 ate up alot of rice burners off the line, not enough tourque

Supercharged? Noice
 
Everyone on EF drives European Supercars.

:rolleyes:

Except the one who drives a 68-hp Toyota Diesel 4x4 running on pure vegetable oil...


Bringing back the 5.0 (302) is cool, but if they want to really cause excitement, they need to put the 460 big block or the V10 in the Mustang. I had an '88 GT 5.0, and it was fast, but they needed to work on the rear end engineering. Very squirrely, and if you lose it around a curve, you can't get it back. I have the feeling that the new one will have fixed that problem!

Charles
 
cammed k20a(type r)
intake manifold, custom header, 3 inch straight pipe, injectors obviously. thats pretty much it and its good for 260whp dynapack or 230whp on a dyno dynamics (heart break dyno).

its in a 96 midori green hatch.

Sounds like a Pick3HomoMobile :rainbow:
 
Sounds like a Pick3HomoMobile :rainbow:

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cammed k20a(type r)
intake manifold, custom header, 3 inch straight pipe, injectors obviously. thats pretty much it and its good for 260whp dynapack or 230whp on a dyno dynamics (heart break dyno).

its in a 96 midori green hatch.

You remind me how much fun it is to mod those little I'4's. You can get in there and do all sorts of things to them and get more speed, but still be able to really wring it out and enjoy it on the road, you know? Buying a car with a monster 6.2L V8 you pretty much cannot do anything to it w/o ending up with so much power you can never use it unless you run it at the track and are a very good driver. If you like to tinker to find your own power a new corvette is a bad choice.

Did you do the work yourself? My husband and I put a set of headers on a Madza 6s (with the Duratec 3.0) and dear God it was a fucking PITA.
 
You remind me how much fun it is to mod those little I'4's. You can get in there and do all sorts of things to them and get more speed, but still be able to really wring it out and enjoy it on the road, you know? Buying a car with a monster 6.2L V8 you pretty much cannot do anything to it w/o ending up with so much power you can never use it unless you run it at the track and are a very good driver. If you like to tinker to find your own power a new corvette is a bad choice.

Did you do the work yourself? My husband and I put a set of headers on a Madza 6s (with the Duratec 3.0) and dear God it was a fucking PITA.

yeah its a lot of fun. its built up from top to bottom so its a lot of fun in the corners. brakes and suspension is more fun then the speed. And a buddy of mine owns a pretty popular tuning shop in chicago and he lets me tinker on it there when they arent busy. last major thing i did to it was the cams. me and him were at it until like 2 am lol.

corvettes are fun. me and my dad test drove a new z06 not that long ago and took it out in the ozarks in arkansas. i gave it all it could handle. laying rubber into 3rd at 90mph is quite the experience.

heres a little video i made after the first time it was tuned with the cams
k20a ek 3-4 gear - Car Videos on StreetFire

40 to 100 about.
 
its the oem color. only offered in 96 and hatchback only. its a honda thing i suppose.

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Engine bay is clean I will give you that much...it just looks like the jolly green giant took a dump after eating lots of his own broccoli, which happened to be your car.
 
Nice stuff in there. Like that strut tower brace and CAI. Aftermarket fuel rail too?

fuel rail, lines, regulator, injectors, intake manifold and the intake. I made that. oil catch can. thats an rsx aftermarket radiator. strut bar is a cool peice. titanium spoon bar. besides the engine thats pretty much it for the bay.
 
fuel rail, lines, regulator, injectors, intake manifold and the intake. I made that. oil catch can. thats an rsx aftermarket radiator. strut bar is a cool peice. titanium spoon bar. besides the engine thats pretty much it for the bay.

Wow! Bet that wasn't cheap. Your engine bay is much more interesting to look at than mine.
 
g35's have a place in my heart. my mom drives a 6 speed one.

winter tires in this pic. rolls around on toyo t1r's
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too slow for me though.

The only reason your car is quick is because there is NOTHING to it weight wise. Im not giving up my fully loaded leather seats, bose system, pop-up navi, and SEXY factor for a quick car. I never understood that, you need balance. I hate seeing kids with a rusted out 89' civic hatch back talking about "I run 9s"...great and you look like a broke piece of shit lol. I had some kid want to race my old 00' Nissan Sentra sr20de-t with his hatch back FOR SLIPS...Why would I WANT your car if I do beat you? lol

PS: Ill take you in the top end anyways, youll just get me off the line :)
 
The only reason your car is quick is because there is NOTHING to it weight wise. Im not giving up my fully loaded leather seats, bose system, pop-up navi, and SEXY factor for a quick car. I never understood that, you need balance. I hate seeing kids with a rusted out 89' civic hatch back talking about "I run 9s"...great and you look like a broke piece of shit lol. I had some kid want to race my old 00' Nissan Sentra sr20de-t with his hatch back FOR SLIPS...Why would I WANT your car if I do beat you? lol

PS: Ill take you in the top end anyways, youll just get me off the line :)

broseph my car is faster then a g35 from a 40 roll if im in 6th gear. Top end would be even worse. my car traps over 112 mph at the track. g35's are around 100. im at 88 by the 1/8th lol. it has a type r trans its gear to be quick. 6th gear tops out at 162mph at 9k rpms!! plus i make 30 more whp then a g35 and my car weighs 2180 lbs!

but this is a stupid argument. i love g35's but trust me they arent on my level. ive been driving her car since 2002 when she got it. i know what it has and ive raced my dad with him driving it. its a scary site. my car takes out ws6's and 03-04 cobras. obviously if they are modded to go faster then high 11's then i lose. but i take out plenty.

and its hardly a rusted out pos. everyone has their preferences and i totally respect that. your car has alot to offer and you listed its strenghts. bose system luxury ect. plenty of sportyness to keep one happy. but if we raced for pinks id be the one with more to lose. and i daily a 2004 acura tsx. plenty of luxury there. great gas mileage leather and navi.

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i dont think TEIN wants rusted out pos's in their booth
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As long as we're showing engine bays:

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Not that you can see anything.

Previous vehicle:

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its the oem color. only offered in 96 and hatchback only. its a honda thing i suppose.

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Isn't that engine backwards? I thought Honda didn't go to clockwise engines in the Civic 'til the 7th Gen 2001-2005?
 
Was it hard to make it fit?

nah man just isnt cheap. only have to cut out the shifter box, and move the rad mounts. changing the rail and fuel lines is a must because the rsx and 02+civic si's use returnless fuel systems. motor mounts obviously, different axles, custom header, exhaust. you have to buy a swap wiring harness also.
 
Didnt really feel like making a new thread for this but i bought a cbr 1000 today. purdy excited.

been there done that. had an 04 for a while. got rear ended/clipped by one of the guys in the group wobbled out of control into a box truck. broken collarbone and other minor injuries. after that had at least 1 friend or person i know die each year on a bike.

now i roll with an 08 sti. next step is running e85.
 
been there done that. had an 04 for a while. got rear ended/clipped by one of the guys in the group wobbled out of control into a box truck. broken collarbone and other minor injuries. after that had at least 1 friend or person i know die each year on a bike.

now i roll with an 08 sti. next step is running e85.

got an 08 with 3k on it. sorry about your losses. i am thinking after i build the head on my civic ill switch to e85. my buddy runs it in his 10 sec allmotor civic that he drives all the time.
 
got an 08 with 3k on it. sorry about your losses. i am thinking after i build the head on my civic ill switch to e85. my buddy runs it in his 10 sec allmotor civic that he drives all the time.

I was going to run meth but e85 is very abundant in my area and all I have to do is add a bosck 044 inline fuel pupm and possibly make a surge tank. but e85 is 105oct, burns way cooler and doesn't detonate so you can throw gobs of timing without knocking. you just use 30% more fuel. with the meth you raise your compression ratio and always run the risk of part of the meth kit failing and toasting your motor.

corn juice ftw!!!
 
been there done that. had an 04 for a while. got rear ended/clipped by one of the guys in the group wobbled out of control into a box truck. broken collarbone and other minor injuries. after that had at least 1 friend or person i know die each year on a bike.

now i roll with an 08 sti
. next step is running e85.

Pics!
 
at 22% boost too I'll bet :lmao:

For real though that is about the most jammed engine bay I've ever seen. You drop a wrench in there and fuggetaboutit

actually almost everything comes out at once when you pull the motor. pulling th emotor takes me less than 2 hrs. all you need is a 10mm, 12mm, 14mm and a swivel and 4" and 6" extentions to take everythng out. oh and a 17mm to drain the oil and you don't even have to jack up the car to change the oil or filter.
 
actually almost everything comes out at once when you pull the motor. pulling th emotor takes me less than 2 hrs. all you need is a 10mm, 12mm, 14mm and a swivel and 4" and 6" extentions to take everythng out. oh and a 17mm to drain the oil and you don't even have to jack up the car to change the oil or filter.

damn, my oil pan is like 3 inches off the ground i could never get under there but my filter is super easy to get off.
 
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