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Muscletech Attacks ME!

win4life

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Hey guys! I haven't posted in a while, but thought you might find this amusing. I wrote to Muscletech and this was their reply.

Mr. Win,

You are obviously not bright enough to see that Elite Fitness has staged many of the attacks against MuscleTech with posts from people who are directly related to them. The reason: To promote and peddle their own products. This is illegal, but we can understand how your dim mind can't figure that out. Elite Fitness has managed to convince only the lowest intellectual level of humanity that they are involved in free speech. Based on your e-mail, it does not surprise us that you fall into that category.

If MuscleTech was a not an honorable company, we would not only be selling a small line of 13 products. You know very well we could put our logo on just about any formulation, including liquid creatine and other such things, and that we would sell tens of millions of dollars of it. If you were not so intellectually challenged you would realize that the only feasible explanation for why MuscleTech does not sell such products is that we simply are not willing to sell any product that doesn't work. This makes us unlike virtually every other company in this industry.

As well, we are conducting research worldwide as evidenced by letters from doctors and researchers posted on our site. Again, if you were not such a complete moron you would realize that only an honorable company focused on selling and developing only products that work would spend such a large amount of money on research. Further, this research has led to patents rights across most of the world. If you mind functioned above the equivalent of the kindergarten level you would realize that the possession of patents and other intellectual property confirms that MuscleTech was founded in science, and that science is what continues to drive us.

What really frustrates imbeciles like yourself is that the rest of the world, almost all of it more intelligent than yourself (including most plant and insect life), realizes this and that this understanding of our product effectiveness has shot MuscleTech to the top of the supplement industry where we will remain indefinitely. Elite Fitness on the other hand, will be a faint, dirty and odorous memory in a very short amount of time. As for you Mr. Win, you will likely level off as a lead short order cook at some bottom of the barrel restaurant, grumbling about things no one cares about due to how truly stupid you are.

Our products are for sale in 48 countries and counting. Our staff are treated like rock stars at all trade shows we attend. If you were actually smart enough for your opinion to actually matter in this world you may have had enough money to fill a car with gas and attend the Arnold's in Columbus last week. If that were possible, you would have seen a mass of humanity in front of our booth throughout the entire show. All who visited told us how wonderful our products were, and not a single complaint was filed. Most of the product stock we brought was purchased in two days, even though we brought twice as much with us than we did the previous year.

Those are the facts in the real world.

In your world you think you are somebody apparently. In reality you are simply an uninformed moron whose opinion means nothing to anyone.

Mr. Win, have a nice day.
 
Write that shit to a muscle magazine that does worship Muscletech, if there is one.
 
Golfer... I couldn't believe the response. I was laughing, because this guys is such a dork.

I am glad that they sent me the letter, because it will haunt them.
 
just another example of Muscletechs prime business. I mean what other company could respond with a letter attacking bodybuilders in probably a matter of hours. Excellent service
 
ROFLMAO - those guys TORE YOU APART!!

:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :FRlol: :FRlol: :FRlol:

Although I somehow doubt that was from Muscletech. If it really was, then hey, keep it and forward it on to George so that he can bring it up in court.
 
20,000 members at EF who wont but shit. Fuck em', let em sell that shitty product, i or my freinds wont be buying it.


I hope it haunts them till the company falls.
 
MV... I know it looks fake, but this is serious. I just got it today. I wrote about three weeks ago.

Why would I post something like this if it were not true.
 
Actually I think Muscletech products are not that shitty just overpriced, competition
is pushing them and they are not comfortable.Meanwhile I'll keep watching another
episode of Muscletech vs. Elitefitness soap opera.
 
Ultra...I didn't want to bring the big guns out yet. That's like the A-bomb when things get serious.

I'll let you know Bro.
 
I just realized that this is the reply from the Law offices of Kenyon to which I wrote. The e-mail addy is:


"DHenry" <[email protected]

I guess they wrote on behalf of Muscletech.

I basically told them that I appreciated their letter to Elite, because it would now be easier to choose my supplements. I thought their response to George was pathetic.
 
win4life said:
MV... I know it looks fake, but this is serious. I just got it today. I wrote about three weeks ago.

Why would I post something like this if it were not true.

I dunno but I couldn't help but laugh. It's prolly some moron at MuscleTech Help Desk or some shit. I say fuck em. :finger:

I say we all do our due diligence by spreading the word to our friends and fellow gym dwellers to not buy there overpriced crap.

A lot of people ask many of these EF members "how do I improve my physique like yours" in real life (non Internet) situations. Take advantage of that and tell them "whatever you do don't waste your money on Muscletech. That stuff sent me to the hospital with such bad cramps and diarrhea".

If 20k people from EF tell just 4 of their friends and if those people tell just 4 of their friends and if......
It's like an MLM scam but against them. ;) ;)
 
Holy shit!!! LOL - I got the EXACT same email bro!! I just posted it on EF select!!! LMAO

What a bunch of morons...that guy can't even distinguish the difference between "your" and "you're."
 
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I wish they would send something like to me. We could compare academic credentials, our work histories and such and determine who is really the idiot.

I am suprised a person with any semblance of professionalism would represent a client in such a manner. Fact is every one of us are pontential customers, and last time I checked, in free market arenas, the customer is always correct.

Regardless of the childish email they sent you, MuscleTech products are a worthless waste of money.

Maybe I should create a web page called www.muscletechsucks.com

The Zeke
 
I would love to have a MuscleTech Sucks tshirt. Talk about truth in advertising.
 
What's funny is that if I were such a worthless moron, then why even respond to me. A persons dander usually gets up when they are offended.

Could a moron like me have upset those guys in their ivory tower?
 
I think the letters they are sending out now are more of a threat to their sales than the initial problem was, now potential customers know what a piece of shit they are!
 
I wouldn't buy a muscletech product if you told me Janet Jackson would sit on my face, well maybe but I will never buy a muscletech product again. Over priced crap.
 
If that shit really was from a legit employee of that company- Then that shit is fucking crazy! ha!!!! I cant believe that shit! The funny thing is, (to me) that this is a AS site! For bodybuilders who figured out a long time ago that anything besides AS, was a fucking rip! Yea, I got big by drinking protein shakes too! What a fuckin joke. So why the fuck are these products even on the site??? Oh, I know. For those pussy asses out there who want to do "the closest thing to steroids, but not steroids". I guess it has to be suitable for all types of b-builders, but one day, if they stick with it long enough- they'll figure out the real deal- There is NO SUBSTITUTE. :alien:
 
I'm telling you guys this is a real letter from MT, I emailed that howard shire guy from the law firm they use, he must have forwarded all our letters to muscletech....I got the EXACT same email posted in this thread in response to my letter with my name switched out for his....pretty fucking lame and childish..but quite funny as the grammar was pathetic....
 
Frak..Glad to hear that I was not alone. What did they think we were going to do with the letter, but make them look like morons.
 
i got the same email. i got a reply in about a minute and it said all that shit. i was like damn, that guy doesnt have much to do. i wrote them back. it was generally along the lines of

MUSCLETECH FUCKING SUCKS
 
Ezekiel_ said:
I wish they would send something like to me. We could compare academic credentials, our work histories and such and determine who is really the idiot.

I am suprised a person with any semblance of professionalism would represent a client in such a manner. Fact is every one of us are pontential customers, and last time I checked, in free market arenas, the customer is always correct.

Regardless of the childish email they sent you, MuscleTech products are a worthless waste of money.

Maybe I should create a web page called www.muscletechsucks.com

The Zeke

www.fuckmuscletech.com


Alas not my creation.........

:rolleyes:
 
Freakin hilarious, one thing that pisses me off, how no matter what there are always, ALWAYS! people saying shit like "if its true" or "I dont believe this shit". If someone lies about something dont just start claiming everyones lieing.......sorry for the rant.



ORCA
 
I was at the Arnold all day Saturday and the thing that struck me the most was how little attention MuscleTech got. Obviously this guy is full of himself but after being there it's funny that he even brings up the Arnold.
MuscleTech had a huge booth right in the middle and I watched as the people who worked their booth had to physically push their bags into the hands of the people walking by and ignoring their booth. I was one of those ignoring them when a guy grabbed my arm and put a bag in my hand, that was what brought my attention to it. This letter makes them look desperate not powerful. The mental stabilty of the person who wrote it comes into question here. If one of my employees put this in writing he'd be in the unemployment line so I guess I would question their leadership as well.
 
Bullshit..Muscle-Tech cleary rules the booths at any of the expo's. Who are you tryin to fool? People love FREE stuff. Probably half of the idots bashing muscle-tech would be the first ones in line looking for handouts at the Muscle-Tech booth.*L*
Win, Muscle-Tech made you look like an ass!*L* That was too funny. How does your ass feel?
 
The rumor is EAS is shit now. Since Phillips sold it it's been doing nothing over here in Ontario. I heard it's a very inconsistant product now. I was at the Arnolds last year and the EAS booth wasn't anything to rave about. The muscle-tech booth has been winning these wars hands down. Some of my friends who are reps for different companies can fill me in on who was the popular booths this year. But knowing how much stuff muscle-tech usually throws out I can't see how they wouldn't be popular. Especially now since they're owning the protein bar market as well with those new Nitro-Tech Flavours that everyone is raving about.
Muscle-Tech brings a little more fun to the booths than average. If you can looks past their hundreds of ads and claims, they are a good company. You can't blame them for being marketing genius's.
 
I get a vision of an old western with the guy standing on the wagon and a big banner that says muscletech and he is pushin his snake oil shouting "dont listen to the non believers", just look at the crowd of ignorant people buying our crap!

Yeah, that proves its quality, I'll take one!
 
FlexBailey said:
"Win, Muscle-Tech made you look like an ass!*L* That was too funny. How does your ass feel?

"You can't blame them for being marketing genius's."

Huh? If, and I stress “if” that type of client response was drafted and sanctioned by any company they are far from geniuses of any kind. We do not know the message originally conveyed by Mr. Win, but regardless of the content no sound company would respond directly or through one of it’s agents with that kind of reply. If it was intentionally forwarded “as is” the only asshole(s) in this scenario would be MT!” My take, I simply can’t believe any company would intentionally respond in that manner. It just isn’t good business (or common) sense.

Lastly, we all know the line the customer is always right is horse-shit! But…quality (profitable) companies will always make you think you are right even if/when you are not! Hence, why this idiotic reply? Real? Fake? Sent unnaproved? Don't know.

* I am neither pro nor con on MT products; I’ve never purchased or used them.

Later,
 
THE SHIRTS

OK OK OK SO where are the shirts?

MuscleTechSUX shirts.

I like the one from the qoute, or something to this tone.

I found a d-bol in my Nitro-TEch, is this normal??

HAHAHAHA.

:bawling:
 
There's a t-shirt printing place down the street from me. If enough guys would really want them, I'll go see how much it will cost.:)
 
win4life said:

You are obviously not bright enough ; your dim mind ; lowest intellectual level of humanity ; it does not surprise us that you fall into that category.
If you were not so intellectually challenged ;
complete moron ; If you mind functioned above the equivalent of the kindergarten level ; imbeciles like ; more intelligent than yourself ; Mr. Win, you will likely level off as a lead short order cook at some bottom of the barrel restaurant, grumbling about things no one cares about due to how truly stupid you are.


is that slander i smell?

funny how they dont believe in free speech but its free speech that allows them their opinion of our friend's intelligence.
 
FlexBailey said:
The rumor is EAS is shit now. Since Phillips sold it it's been doing nothing over here in Ontario. I heard it's a very inconsistant product now. I was at the Arnolds last year and the EAS booth wasn't anything to rave about. The muscle-tech booth has been winning these wars hands down. Some of my friends who are reps for different companies can fill me in on who was the popular booths this year. But knowing how much stuff muscle-tech usually throws out I can't see how they wouldn't be popular. Especially now since they're owning the protein bar market as well with those new Nitro-Tech Flavours that everyone is raving about.
Muscle-Tech brings a little more fun to the booths than average. If you can looks past their hundreds of ads and claims, they are a good company. You can't blame them for being marketing genius's.

Damn man....can you be any more obvious?? Shut the fuck up...LOL...
 
GameBreaker said:
i'm not sure if a company can legally insult u like that..you should have it published.

that is a very good idea. If anyone has any contacts w/ muscle mag or anything..
 
FlexBailey said:
The rumor is EAS is shit now. Since Phillips sold it it's been doing nothing over here in Ontario. I heard it's a very inconsistant product now. I was at the Arnolds last year and the EAS booth wasn't anything to rave about. The muscle-tech booth has been winning these wars hands down. Some of my friends who are reps for different companies can fill me in on who was the popular booths this year. But knowing how much stuff muscle-tech usually throws out I can't see how they wouldn't be popular. Especially now since they're owning the protein bar market as well with those new Nitro-Tech Flavours that everyone is raving about.
Muscle-Tech brings a little more fun to the booths than average. If you can looks past their hundreds of ads and claims, they are a good company. You can't blame them for being marketing genius's.

Yeah and the EAS booth was bigger than anyones this year! I would rather see the money go into product development than a big ass booth tossing out bullshit product and cheap ass t-shirts.
 
ulter said:
This letter makes them look desperate not powerful. The mental stabilty of the person who wrote it comes into question here. If one of my employees put this in writing he'd be in the unemployment line so I guess I would question their leadership as well.

You nailed it right on the head ULTER!
 
FlexBailey

FlexBailey said:
The rumor is EAS is shit now. Since Phillips sold it it's been doing nothing over here in Ontario. I heard it's a very inconsistant product now. I was at the Arnolds last year and the EAS booth wasn't anything to rave about. The muscle-tech booth has been winning these wars hands down. Some of my friends who are reps for different companies can fill me in on who was the popular booths this year. But knowing how much stuff muscle-tech usually throws out I can't see how they wouldn't be popular. Especially now since they're owning the protein bar market as well with those new Nitro-Tech Flavours that everyone is raving about.
Muscle-Tech brings a little more fun to the booths than average. If you can looks past their hundreds of ads and claims, they are a good company. You can't blame them for being marketing genius's.

You know what I think is real fuckin funny? I'd say there is a pretty good chance this guy works for MuscleTech...and what is he doing? Bashing EAS and starting rumors about product inconsistency that are likely untrue...fucking cocksuckers....good for the goose, good for the gander right?
 
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Frackal said:


You know what I think is real fuckin funny? I'd say there is a pretty good chance this guy works for MuscleTech...and what is he doing? Bashing EAS and starting rumors about product inconsistency that are likely untrue...fucking cocksuckers....good for the goose, good for the gander right?

Since this is Muscletech's legal basis for fucking with George, maybe we should contact EAS and tell them what Muscletech is doing
 
FlexBailey said:
Bullshit..Muscle-Tech cleary rules the booths at any of the expo's. Who are you tryin to fool? People love FREE stuff. Probably half of the idots bashing muscle-tech would be the first ones in line looking for handouts at the Muscle-Tech booth.*L*
Win, Muscle-Tech made you look like an ass!*L* That was too funny. How does your ass feel?

You are obviously one of the "Smart Ones", You are nothing but quality. Good posts like yours are hard to come by. I guess you got the Vaseline version of an ass screwing from MT.

Enjoy your lubed pounding.
 
Here was my email to muscletech

I will post their response.


Hi, I WAS a loyal customer of yours. I used a lot of your products. Used being past tense since I have read the legal threats and law suit you are trying to file against www.elitefitness.com. First off let me tell you about the first amendment (Freedom of Speech). This is my freedom that I have along with all the other members of elitefitness.com. I have NEVER seen any negative remarks made about your company other then by members of the board (we don't work for elite fitness). "Obviously you are not bright enough to understand this."

I will share the information given to me with EVERYONE that I know that even thinks of using your products. I will NOT tell them anything untrue and make "attacks" against your bullshit products (that are WAY overpriced) so you try to sue me, but I WILL let them know what is going on and the WILL NOT buy your products anymore.

"Obviously you are not bright enough to see" that you are going to lose way more customers with your law suit then the false allegations made against www.elitefitness.com. If you want to sue somebody then sue Joe blow who made a post saying that your products are shit and overpriced.

Companies like you make me sick to my stomach and don't deserve to be in business. You "obviously are not bright enough" to see that you are making yourself look REAL bad. Your product must suck or you wouldn't care what ANYBODY said about them, they would speak for themselves.

I don't want to waste anymore time with your scared to lose the sale of 1 bottle of protein because a member (NOT EMPLOYEE) spoke out with the truth about your garbage product.

Mr. Scared I'm going to lose a sale, have a nice day!
 
I wrote a letter, too...

Dear Globo-Chem,

I recently purchased a "can" of your widely advertised "Nitro-Tech" product. As the hype surrounding it was amazing, I figured I'd give the product a try. I bought the product at local, unnamed vitamin store, at which time, I was told, once more, about Aaron Maddron's intense gains.

Initially, I was impressed by the look of self-assurance on the salesman's face... that was until I got home later that evening. With the used syringe and flowing liquid inside, making the powder into a sand... I did the logical thing, by following the directions, and intramuscularly injected the "Nitro-Tech" product. I saw results. I saw results in my penis shriveling up to nil and falling off like a leaf from a tree in late autumn.

Needless to say, this was not pleasing. I wrote a letter once before and I started to get annonymous phone calls in the early morning hours about death and my family. Please send me as any free products as possible and please, no Anadrol in my Nortesten, I still have bitchtits.

Love,

Greg Kovacs
2334 William-Martyr Ave Box 78
Zekesboro, KS 28412

:destroy:

PS: There is still D-Bol in my Cell-Tech.
 
Wow funny that I hear EAS was the ones throwing out the most free stuff this year hence the reason they got the most attention at the expo. I also heard the Muscle-Tech booth was set up in a weird spot, anyhoo....
Don't you guys have more of a life than to bash a company day after day after day? There are alot of companies I hate yet I won't even bother wasting my breath on most of the time. In my opinon Muscle-Tech is a good quality/semi-expensive company with TONS of hype surrounding them. Most companies can't match quality so they beat price, or some companies CAN(doesn't mean they do) match quality but are more expensive....Ah hemmm...EAS.
Yes we all know that you don't get ripped like the guys in the mags with this fat burner or build 20 lbs of pure muscle with whatever protein supplement. BUT, these supplements do HELP you achieve those gains.
That is the bottom line. I don't get mad because I see them all over the mags because they pay for the most advertising spaces. They have earned their right to be there, it isn't cheap you know. They are there because they do well, simple as that.
 
win4life said:
Hey guys! I haven't posted in a while, but thought you might find this amusing. I wrote to Muscletech and this was their reply.

Mr. Win,

You are obviously not bright enough to see that Elite Fitness has staged many of the attacks against MuscleTech with posts from people who are directly related to them. The reason: To promote and peddle their own products. This is illegal, but we can understand how your dim mind can't figure that out. Elite Fitness has managed to convince only the lowest intellectual level of humanity that they are involved in free speech. Based on your e-mail, it does not surprise us that you fall into that category.

If MuscleTech was a not an honorable company, we would not only be selling a small line of 13 products. You know very well we could put our logo on just about any formulation, including liquid creatine and other such things, and that we would sell tens of millions of dollars of it. If you were not so intellectually challenged you would realize that the only feasible explanation for why MuscleTech does not sell such products is that we simply are not willing to sell any product that doesn't work. This makes us unlike virtually every other company in this industry.

As well, we are conducting research worldwide as evidenced by letters from doctors and researchers posted on our site. Again, if you were not such a complete moron you would realize that only an honorable company focused on selling and developing only products that work would spend such a large amount of money on research. Further, this research has led to patents rights across most of the world. If you mind functioned above the equivalent of the kindergarten level you would realize that the possession of patents and other intellectual property confirms that MuscleTech was founded in science, and that science is what continues to drive us.

What really frustrates imbeciles like yourself is that the rest of the world, almost all of it more intelligent than yourself (including most plant and insect life), realizes this and that this understanding of our product effectiveness has shot MuscleTech to the top of the supplement industry where we will remain indefinitely. Elite Fitness on the other hand, will be a faint, dirty and odorous memory in a very short amount of time. As for you Mr. Win, you will likely level off as a lead short order cook at some bottom of the barrel restaurant, grumbling about things no one cares about due to how truly stupid you are.

Our products are for sale in 48 countries and counting. Our staff are treated like rock stars at all trade shows we attend. If you were actually smart enough for your opinion to actually matter in this world you may have had enough money to fill a car with gas and attend the Arnold's in Columbus last week. If that were possible, you would have seen a mass of humanity in front of our booth throughout the entire show. All who visited told us how wonderful our products were, and not a single complaint was filed. Most of the product stock we brought was purchased in two days, even though we brought twice as much with us than we did the previous year.

Those are the facts in the real world.

In your world you think you are somebody apparently. In reality you are simply an uninformed moron whose opinion means nothing to anyone.

Mr. Win, have a nice day.

Oh man that's too funny....

No offense guys but they've got balls, you can't fault them for that.

Really though from a new members point of view - new member, NOT new to bodybuilding or any of the boards (Bolex, UG, AE etc), what do you expect? It seems every other post here is about Muscletech. Doesn't anyone have anything better to write about?? Seems to me that there is simply alot of people here with a huge chip on their shoulders...

Can't we just lift, get huge and talk about something that matters for a change?
 
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Ironhead66 said:


Oh man that's too funny....

No offense guys but they've got balls, you can't fault them for that.

Really though from a new members point of view - new member, NOT new to bodybuilding or any of the boards (Bolex, UG, AE etc), what do you expect? It seems every other post here is about Muscletech. Doesn't anyone have anything better to write about?? Seems to me that there is simply alot of people here with a huge chip on their shoulders...

Can't we just lift, get huge and talk about something that matters for a change?



EXACTLY.
 
FlexBailey said:
Wow funny that I hear EAS was the ones throwing out the most free stuff this year hence the reason they got the most attention at the expo. I also heard the Muscle-Tech booth was set up in a weird spot, anyhoo....
Don't you guys have more of a life than to bash a company day after day after day? There are alot of companies I hate yet I won't even bother wasting my breath on most of the time. In my opinon Muscle-Tech is a good quality/semi-expensive company with TONS of hype surrounding them. Most companies can't match quality so they beat price, or some companies CAN(doesn't mean they do) match quality but are more expensive....Ah hemmm...EAS.
Yes we all know that you don't get ripped like the guys in the mags with this fat burner or build 20 lbs of pure muscle with whatever protein supplement. BUT, these supplements do HELP you achieve those gains.
That is the bottom line. I don't get mad because I see them all over the mags because they pay for the most advertising spaces. They have earned their right to be there, it isn't cheap you know. They are there because they do well, simple as that.


How much are you paid to come here and look that stupid for them ?
 
Dear Muscletech,

I am interested in trying your Cell-tech product, but have never tried any of your products before. Before I buy it, I wanted to ask...if I try it and don't like it, and I say so to other people, are you going to sue me?
 
First off

Did any of you think that maybe someone on the board, took down the e-mail addresses of the people who claimed to write e-mails to Muscle Tech and create this letter? Some people are just dumb like that. Anyways, if the letter is really from a representative at Muscle Tech, that isn't a very good way of doing business and should get fired. I think that they would have more common sense then to reply to a potential customer that way. Any person who runs a business of any size would know better then to write that kind of letter and not expect it to be posted on a forum that the lawsuit is being brought against. Elite Fitness which has a large number of members. If you ran a company I think that a potential lost of money wheather it was coming from one person or a million is a big deal and bad business pratice if you ask me.
 
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