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Muscle Density

keiko

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I asked this on another board, but I still don't quite get it.

My 14 year old son is like a rock, but I can lift heavier than he can. But, my muscles (or some at least) aren't all that hard. I know AS contributes to muscle hardness. Does anything else work for density? Are density and hardness the same thing?

Does age or diet make a difference?
 
You will have to ask the experts on this one.....(lobo, w6) but I know density has a lot to do with muscle maturity.. You take a woman that is 30 been lifting 10 years and a woman that is lets say 24 only been lifting 3 years, may have the same size etc, but the 30 yr olds muscle density would probably be greater, just do to years training and the maturity of her muscle. Muscle hardness can come from dieting and AS. Thats my .02 i will let some of the older wiser ones chime in on this one:confused:
 
There are several factors to consider here.

What is covering the muscles? When you say he is like a rock, chances are his body fat and sub-q fat is much less than yours. This will give both the appearance and feel of the muscle being harder. Secondly, there are other factors (mechanical and neural) that regulate force production (strength) besides muscle size and even factors within the muscle that regulate force production.

Without a doubt, androgens will give muscles a much fuller and harder look, if they didn't, no one on this board would use them. I don't think any female on this board that has used AAS will disagree and this has to do with the amount of intramuscular glycogen, water and contractile proteins in a given space that can be affected by AAS. Anyone that is on a low carb diet knows that the muscles look soft and flat, but fill out (harden or become more dense looking) when carbs are increased as a function of increasing intramuscular water.

Muscle is composed of contractile (myosin, actin, etc.) and non-contractile proteins (connective tissue). Of course it is the contractile proteins that generate force. There is also interstitial space, or space within the muscle. A muscle with more interstitial space and/or less contractile protein will produce less force per cross-sectional area or unit of muscle and would be considered "less dense". There are also mechanical factors (bone attachments, angle of pull, etc.) that affect force production. Then there are neural factors, both at the muscle level and central (brain) that are influenced by androgens.


W6
 
Thanks guys!

My lower body is quite hard, and I train very heavily. but, I'd not done eqaully so with my upper body. I lift pretty heavy, but as I didn't want to get much bigger, I guess I wasn't really going for it.

I don't low-carb, but I do take T3 for my thryoid and I've worried about it interfering with my muscle mass.
 
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