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muay thai + 5x5 style training

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coreyb

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Hi,

I am starting at a local Muay Thai gym next week and was wondering if anyone has any experience combining these two hobbies together?

I have made a lot of good strength gains with the 3x5 program and I want that to continue. However, I know that training Muay Thai 2-3 times a week (if not more!) is going to make my current strength training progress not possible.

What kind of changes/program ideas can I implement to keep up my progress at a good rate and accel at Muay Thai without fatigue?

Thanks guys. :evil:

edit - I should mention that I'm still not very strong (squat 1RM = bodyweight,deadlift = bodyweight, etc) so I would like to continue gaining strength rather then work on excercises made for boxing.
 
With those squat and dead numbers, there is no need doing 5x5. So keep it simple: Continue on 3x5 and try to increase weight each time. You'll progress a lot faster.
 
Ok. The only problem is that I THINK that adding 2-3 days of kickboxing a week might stall my 3x5 progress and vice versa?
 
It will definitely slow your progress at some point, if you want to make Muay Thai you priority, then you can drop back squatting twice a week and add a front squat session to intensify your conditioning and skill drills. If you want to increase your lifts, you can reduce the intensity on your Muay Thai work on some days.
 
ok, that sounds good for now I suppose. Now does anyone here have any muay thai experience? I was wondering what would be a good weight to be at for muay thai. I'm a little over 6 feet tall and am weighing in at 185 lbs right now. But not cut at all.
 
I did Muay-Tai from when I was 8 till 16...you get shredded doing it...however, don't expect to gain any size if you're really doing Muai-Tai...
 
you should be more than 185 if you're 6 foot, there are a few skinny guys who do well in competitive fighting but mostly it's moderately thick people, try to pack some good food into your system
 
bro, you will quickly realize that strength plays a very small role in the fighting arts such as muay thai (and BJJ for that matter). being a good, hard striker, be it with your hands/feet/elbows/knees has more to do with being able to transfer your weight behind your strikes than it has to do with how strong you are. striking speed is also much more important than strength.
being able to use various strikes to set your opponent up for the knockout punch, kick, knee or elbow is also important, and these are things that are not related to strength.

At 6' tall and 185, you are the perfect size. most Muay Thai kickboxers are rather slim. look at Anderson Silva. or look on youtube for a guy named Bukaw. these guys are tall, lanky, have tremendous speed and very solid technique. plus, at your height and weight, you should have a reach advantage over your opponents. shit, lose 5lbs, carry your weight at 180, and cut to 170 when you fight.
 
Speed is important, but strength is equally as important. Imagine a fight between Muhamad Ali Clay and Tyson. Speed vs. Strength. I'm not talking about the new piss-poor Tyson, I'm talking about the old "I wanna eat your children" Tyson vs. "dance like a butterfly sting like a bee" Ali. Who do you think will win? One had explosive power / strength and the other had speed and agility. Both are important.

MMA = mixed martial arts different from Muay Tai. Muay Tai is a strict form of Tai kickboxing, very effective and needs lots of strength, speed and endurance.
 
The_Alcatraz said:
Speed is important, but strength is equally as important. Imagine a fight between Muhamad Ali Clay and Tyson. Speed vs. Strength. I'm not talking about the new piss-poor Tyson, I'm talking about the old "I wanna eat your children" Tyson vs. "dance like a butterfly sting like a bee" Ali. Who do you think will win? One had explosive power / strength and the other had speed and agility. Both are important.

MMA = mixed martial arts different from Muay Tai. Muay Tai is a strict form of Tai kickboxing, very effective and needs lots of strength, speed and endurance.
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Bukaw only trains Muay Thai. He is the best in the world. Anderson Silva, while he competes MMA, and is a black belt in BJJ, is a strick Muay Thai expert when it comes to stand up game.

i know what Muay Thai is, I train for it. and no, strength is not as important as speed and technique. boxing is completely different sport, in the fact that you are only using your hands.
 
Well, one person is saying I'm too small and the other says I'm just perfect for muay thai, lol! I think I'm going to trust illuminati's opinion however, he trains in muay thai so he must know his stuff.

Thanks for the reply too man, that makes me a lot more confident about starting this now and I'm glad I don't have to gain any more weight :D

Now why do you say I should stay at 180 and cut down to 170 though? Are there specific reasons for this?
 
also, how well do you think deadlifts, squats, etc would transfer over to muay thai? my cousin who is doing muay thai already said that everything comes from the hips. Would it be in my best interest to possibly just concentrate on squats, deads and any excercises that make my hips more powerful?
 
coreyb said:
Well, one person is saying I'm too small and the other says I'm just perfect for muay thai, lol! I think I'm going to trust illuminati's opinion however, he trains in muay thai so he must know his stuff.

Thanks for the reply too man, that makes me a lot more confident about starting this now and I'm glad I don't have to gain any more weight :D

Now why do you say I should stay at 180 and cut down to 170 though? Are there specific reasons for this?
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why? at 170 and being 6' tall, you will have one hell of a reach advantage over your opponents. this is a good thing. you can keep them at bay with you jab, making it hard for them get their strikes. use your range , with the threat of the jab to throw your kicks. your height at that weight will be a huge advantage.
 
I insist strength is just as important...I've played Muay Tai since I was a kid, the stronger I got, the easier it was to beat the crap out of your opponents...it makes a difference if your left uppercut can really hurt someone or just knock him out....thats where the strength comes into play...
 
hey corey... i'm in the same situation...

i train in muay thai 2 times a week and i lift 4 times a week. but i've been used to doing standard bodybuilding/strength exercises and i'm also wondering how it would translate to muay thai...

i'd like to excell in muay thai, have the speed and power but i don't really want to lose any of my hard earned lbm. i'm 160 at 5'7". i've no plans of competing in muay thai for now so i'm trying toi get the best of both worlds :)

could anyone... muay thai or mma fighter out there, share their training regimens with us? :)

ang_tibay
 
I still think Muay-Tai burns too many calories if you're doing it right. So unless you're consuming 3000-5000 calories a day depending on your built, then doing it will burn too many calories. You should definately NOT do Muay-Tai and hit the weight on the same day. The day you do Muay-Tai, forget about pumping iron
 
well I certaintely wont be training on the same day as I weightlift. I am going to be doing Muay Thai on Tuesday and Thursday, which fits in perfect with my 3x5 (mon, wed, fri, take off the weekend) schedule!
 
That's good. Just make sure you use proper form when throwing a punch, sparring or on the bag, since if you throw a wrong bunch, then you can't workout properly for a whole week.
 
My first class is tonight, I'm really pumped but also very nervous :|

wish me luck!
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Remember to draw first blood. And when you are called to a fight, act pumped up and don't be scared. They have to think you're either a "freak" who eats blood or a bad dude who breaks peoples' fingers for a living...LOL...no bs.

Good luck
 
wow!

thats all I can say. first class was intense as hell and was almost going to puke a few times from all the cardio...maybe I should of did SOME while I was bulking.

It's so fun though, kicking the shit out of the pads and learning all the basic techniques...I'm in love already!

muay thai rules!
 
coreyb said:
wow!

thats all I can say. first class was intense as hell and was almost going to puke a few times from all the cardio...maybe I should of did SOME while I was bulking.

It's so fun though, kicking the shit out of the pads and learning all the basic techniques...I'm in love already!

muay thai rules!
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glad to hear that things went well and that you enjoyed it. Muay Thai is a lot of fun. remember that when you kick, you want to hit with your shin. your shin is like a baseball bat. dont get in the habit of using your foot, as you will mess your ankle up badly, and possible break it (if you kick hard enough).
 
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