Hey guys, sorry I didn't update ou for a while. Well.... PCT sucks :-/ I kept most of my strength gains, but have lost about 4 lbs of the 8 I gained. If anything, I haven't been able to get a full eight hours asleep for like two weeks now. Not because of any of the pills but just because of life. Lol. I don't know if that has a role to play in it. All other factors have been remaining constant. Maybe most of the gains from Blackextreme WERE water :-/ shiiieeet. I'm only slightly bigger than before I started. Idunno. Maybe 3000 calories a day wasn't/isn't enough for me to get & stay big anymore.