military and aas.....

[justinjones1963]

They can test but they must have probable cause and the command must specifically request a specific test for steroids. This is the policy for the Army, I am not sure about the Navy, USMC or AF.

 

[02gixxersix]

Enlistment is down in wartime. A lot of the fake gun ho tough guys are not so gung ho when there is a very real possabilty to be facing danger. besides if they spent all there money on personell resources who would pay for cheneys hunting excursions?

Tell me about it. My career field is grossly grossly undermanned and they are still kicking people out and not letting others re-enlist. The money should go to providing for the troops instead of the big-wigs and more equiptment that we don't have the man-power to take care of.

 

[64Pilot]

Enlistment is down in wartime. A lot of the fake gun ho tough guys are not so gung ho when there is a very real possabilty to be facing danger. besides if they spent all there money on personell resources who would pay for cheneys hunting excursions?

Yeah and why all the flat screen monitors, and new office equipment

 

[64Pilot]

Tell me about it. My career field is grossly grossly undermanned and they are still kicking people out and not letting others re-enlist. The money should go to providing for the troops instead of the big-wigs and more equiptment that we don't have the man-power to take care of.

They giving out any bonus's, being that is a critically manned carrer field? I doubt it.

I am pretty sure that I know what branch you are in. Remember, there is alwasy Blue to GREEN program lol

 

[02gixxersix]

LOL negativo on the blue to green.......i just got out of the desert and I'm not trying to spend the rest of my life over there lol. Nope no bonuses for us. Apparently they are recruiting like crazy, not allowing people to cross train, but still kicking some guys out, and it has nothing to do with ratings or anything. I don't understand the logic but I'm not sure anyone does.......at least no one on the workers level that can see what actually goes on. All they go by are numbers, if the planes are getting off the ground then who cares about manning. Fuck it we can work 12 hour shifts no days off.....suck it up its our job right lol. Kills me.

 

[64Pilot]

LOL negativo on the blue to green.......i just got out of the desert and I'm not trying to spend the rest of my life over there lol. Nope no bonuses for us. Apparently they are recruiting like crazy, not allowing people to cross train, but still kicking some guys out, and it has nothing to do with ratings or anything. I don't understand the logic but I'm not sure anyone does.......at least no one on the workers level that can see what actually goes on. All they go by are numbers, if the planes are getting off the ground then who cares about manning. Fuck it we can work 12 hour shifts no days off.....suck it up its our job right lol. Kills me.

The most ridiculous thing ever invented is the flying hours program, where you have to fly out the numbers of hours allotted, or you wont get the full funding for next FY All it does it fuck maintenance in the ass, and add up unwanted peacetme hours..Of course come September, there are flights out the ass to catch up

 

[LOL72]

hey everyone thanxs for the great feedback not as worried as i was... so i have 2 weeks left of this cycle....should i finish it i mean might as well cuz if they do test me i will be hot for about 3 months...but im not huge it was my first cycle and i did low does i have only gained about 16lbs.....and the recruiter didnt know me b4 soo what do yall say?

 

[CO B-man]

They can test but they must have probable cause and the command must specifically request a specific test for steroids. This is the policy for the Army, I am not sure about the Navy, USMC or AF.

I hate to disagree with you and I am not trying to be a jerk about it, but, when you belong to the U.S. government, probable cause goes out the window. You at that time are property of the U.S. Government and they can do with you as they wish, within reason. If you have a house OFF BASE that they issue you a per diem check for every month they can, willl and sometimes do inspect it just as they would the barracks they furnish those who live on base.

Also Blue to Green red to orange purple to yellow Army to Navy, Air Force to Marine Corp. None of that shit matters bro's We are ALL brothers and sisters in arms and we all bleed red. You see a fellow ALLY fallen whether he or she is Army, Air Force, Navy or Marines you mother F8%#en go back and pick them up and take them with you. That simple!!

 

[02gixxersix]

I hate to disagree with you and I am not trying to be a jerk about it, but, when you belong to the U.S. government, probable cause goes out the window. You at that time are property of the U.S. Government and they can do with you as they wish, within reason. If you have a house OFF BASE that they issue you a per diem check for every month they can, willl and sometimes do inspect it just as they would the barracks they furnish those who live on base.

Also Blue to Green red to orange purple to yellow Army to Navy, Air Force to Marine Corp. None of that shit matters bro's We are ALL brothers and sisters in arms and we all bleed red. You see a fellow ALLY fallen whether he or she is Army, Air Force, Navy or Marines you mother F8%#en go back and pick them up and take them with you. That simple!!

Agreed but there is nothing wrong with a little friendly rivalry. At the end of the day I think or at least hope we all have the utmost respect for each other because without any little piece the whole thing wouldn't work.

Oh and they do need probable cause but like you said you belong to them and there are ways around that. They can force you to give a sample and use it as a way to discharge you......but it can not be used as the means to determine which kind of discharge you get. Basically it means if they force it out of you they can kick you out but would have to give you a discharge based on all previous performances and not the positive drug test. Still not worth it IMO.

 

[CO B-man]

Agreed but there is nothing wrong with a little friendly rivalry.




As long as everyone has each others backs and never lets it ellevate higher than just fun, then you are absolutely right nothing wrong with that! Hell, even I was thinking about joing the Marine corp instead of the Army once but I could never get my head in the jar........

Rock on!!