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Mid-Cycle Progress. Test/Primo Cycle

deezknuckles

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Hey bros:
Im a bit concerned at my low HDL, but happy with results so far, and decided to post mid-cycle results and ask for feedback.


Current Cycle:(currently at end of week 5 out of 8)
Omnadren 500 mg/wk
Primo 500 mg/wk
20 mg proviron ED
10 mg aromasin ED
T3 50 mcg tapered

Supplements:
Glucurell, Sesapure, fish oil, levorex, liver detox, red yeast rice, Policosanol.

Diet:
4300-4700 Cals/day on workout days, ~3800-4000 non-workout days
Sample macros:
Fat: 126 1135 27%
Sat: 23 208 5%
Poly: 43 386 9%
Mono: 51 455 11%
Carbs: 378 1366 33%
Fiber: 37 0 0%
Protein: 410 1639 40%

Workout:
Modified HST MWF. light cardio/core Tu, th, sat.

Results:
(Stats: 31 yo, 6ft 2, ~15 yrs lifting on and off, 5th cycle. This is first cycle in 5 yrs though)
Weight: pre-cycle 202 (~8-11% BF based on 3-site digital calipar test)
Now: 219 (~8-10% BF based on 3-site digital calipar test)

I may be higher BF as my abs are not very well defined and i tend to pinch ~17-18 mm at abs w/ calipars. My thighs and chest are very tight and I measure 4-5 mm each w/ calipars.

Blood test:
Pre-cycle all was normal except HDL was a bit low at 39. Pre-cycle total cholesterol 160

Now: Cholest: 170
Triglycerides: 88
LDL: 129
HDL (LOW) 23 :worried:
TSH 1.277
T4 (LOW) 3.8
T3 UPTAKE (high): 40%
free thyroxine index 1.5
CBC all normal
Other abnormal results:
LDH:262 (High)
AST: 62 (HIGH)

I plan to up the Policosanol dose and add flush-free niacin for my HDL. All other liver results were normal so I think AST/LDH was a result of heavy workout w/ deads, squats etc ~18 hours prior to blood test.

I threw in T3 so i am ramped up for last 2 weeks of cycle to try and shred off 3-4 lbs of fat as I do a quick taper to ~2400 cals/day, then will go back up to ~3200 cals/day for PCT.
 
FYI, I am at ~5 weeks post cycle, and am in PCT (just finished last 500iu shot).

AST is still high at 53
Total Cholesterol is at 207
HDL improved from 23 to 36 though
Red Blood Cell count a little high.
Total test is almost back to precycle level of ~520, it is at 482.
Free test is greater than 50 (probably a result of HCG)
Estradiol is at 20
Estrogens, total at 120 (slightly high for adult male)
Weight steady at ~216.
 
The only thing is man...you should be running the test for at least 10 or 12 weeks and the primo for at least 10 weeks. You're cheating yourself out of the rest of the cycle.
 
deezknuckles said:
FYI, I am at ~5 weeks post cycle, and am in PCT (just finished last 500iu shot).

AST is still high at 53
Total Cholesterol is at 207
HDL improved from 23 to 36 though
Red Blood Cell count a little high.
Total test is almost back to precycle level of ~520, it is at 482.
Free test is greater than 50 (probably a result of HCG)
Estradiol is at 20
Estrogens, total at 120 (slightly high for adult male)
Weight steady at ~216.



Great follow up post bro
 
boston789 said:
The only thing is man...you should be running the test for at least 10 or 12 weeks and the primo for at least 10 weeks. You're cheating yourself out of the rest of the cycle.

Thanks for the feedback. I thought about that but wanted to stay strictly to 8 weeks to have limited long-term impact on HPTA. My wife is expecting in the Fall and we'll probablly start trying for another baby in the late spring 2007 so my plan was to squeeze in two 8 week cycles (with strict bloodwork for hormone levels) and then I have to go clean again for a while.

Another strange thing that happened was that I made the bulk of my gains early in the cycle and my gains from week 5-8 were not great. I seemed to have hit a wall with mass gains, and felt overtrained at times (specially doing squats 3x/week) , although my strength continued to improve on my HST program. I therefore do not know how much more gains I would have made with a 12 weeker at those doses.

Im planning on a 750 mgTest/600mgEq/50mg Var cycle in the Fall, and, against the common recommendations that I see for eq, I will keep that cycle to 8 weeks as well.
 
I don't see how you gained 17lbs on primo in 8 weeks.

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