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Max Hardcore Found Guilty in Obscenity Trial

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Max Hardcore Found Guilty in Obscenity Trial
Jurors find Max and his company guilty on all counts

By: David Sullivan

Posted: 06/05/2008

TAMPA - Producer Max Hardcore was found guilty today of 10 federal counts of distributing obscene materials over the Internet and through the mail. His company Max World Entertainment was also found guilty on 10 related charges.

"It's a sad day for all Americans when they smash any kind of free speech and that's what happened in Tampa today," Max Hardcore told AVN. "They trampled on free speech, and I intend to appeal."

The government had separately sought the forfeiture of Hardcore's home in Altadena, Calif., but the jury ruled against that sanction.

"I'm full of good spirits and they didn't get my house," Hardcore said. "We're talking to a couple of jurors and they felt very strongly for me, but the way the laws are formulated, they were boxed in to a corner. I should have got off for this nonsense; obscenity is an archaic term, it's not defined well. I received no warning and they attempted to put me behind bars; they've got a conviction, but we intend to fight on."

Earlier today, jurors asked U.S. District Judge Susan Bucklew for guidance as the jury was having trouble reaching a unanimous decision.

The jury foreman sent a note to Bucklew just after 3 p.m., asking: "If we make a decision on 10 of the 20 counts, but are unable to reach a decision on the other 10, will the 10 counts that we decide on stand?''

Bucklew said the jury's decision would count.

The jurors responded in another note: "There are people on both sides of the issues, and we do not believe we'll be able to reach a unanimous decision. How long must we deliberate?''

The judge urged jurors to try again. "I'm not going to tell you how much time to deliberate, but I am going to ask you to deliberate again,'' she said.

The jury then asked Judge Bucklew for permission to take a break, because "emotions were running very high." Bucklew granted the break, asking attorneys to stay in the courthouse to give the jurors time to talk again.

The jury returned its verdict at approximately 7 p.m after deliberating for a total of 14 hours in the past two days.

"It was a travesty but we had no choice because of the way the law is written," one jurors told AVN.

Several jurors approached Max Hardcore and his attorneys to express their sympathy at having been forced to convict him on the counts due to the "poorly written" law regarding the transportation of obscene material via the internet and the mailing of the DVDs to the middle district of Florida.

Another juror reportedly said that if two words in the law had been different, he would have held out for acquittal.

Attorney Jeffrey Douglas echoed Max's sentiments.

"As I said in closing argument, I believe that this prosecution was shameful," Douglas told AVN. "And as Max Hardcore said, this is a sad day for America. It's a deeply sad day for him personally, but also for all of us."

Max Hardcore will be sentenced September 5. He is free on bail until that date.
 
You have to be kidding me.
 
It's not a sad day for America. That was 9/11.

It's a sad day for Max Hardcore and his ability to make profits.

r
 
SaladFork said:
WTF EVA, you of all people don't know who Max Hardcore is?

Most of us have actual living breathing females that live with us. :)

and no, I have no idea who he is. Though I'm sure Bubba will tho. Ouch!

r
 
Razorguns said:
Most of us have actual living breathing females that live with us. :)

and no, I have no idea who he is. Though I'm sure Bubba will tho. Ouch!

r

Most of us don't have to have an actual living breathing female living in our house to get laid.
 
Razorguns said:
Most of us have actual living breathing females that live with us. :)

and no, I have no idea who he is. Though I'm sure Bubba will tho. Ouch!

r


LOL@Female living with you! :p
 
all the whey said:
Most of us don't have to have an actual living breathing female living in our house to get laid.

craigslist.org

$250 "roses"

hahahaha

(buy a camera, so you feel legit)

r
 
Razorguns said:
craigslist.org

$250 "roses"

hahahaha

(buy a camera, so you feel legit)

r

buy a camera and take a pic of the tampons under your/her sink.
 
r - "Honey going to the store to get some beer, need anything?"

old lady - "Tampons bish and make it snappy, this ones been in since yesterday morning."
 
haha!
I didnt know who max hardcore was either, so i wiki'ed him....
direct quote from wikipedia:

"On June 5th 2008 Max Hardcore was found guilty and convicted on 20 counts of not taking enough dumps on girls faces by a Tampa, Florida Jury"

LOL!!!! awesome. I wonder who fucked this up. you aim for the chest, idiot. You cant kiss her after you shat on her face.....
 
So much for free speech. Obscenity laws are absolutely illogical, especially when they use the "community standards" nonsense. It's the only law where a perpetrator has no way of knowing he's breaking the law until AFTER he's convicted.
 
I'm still stunned by this. We are fighting a war in Iraq dubbed "Operation Iraqi Freedom". However, we have no freedom of speech in our own country. I no longer recognize my own country. I hope this one makes it to the US Supreme Court and they find the law unconstitutional.
 
Razorguns said:
It's not a sad day for America. That was 9/11.

It's a sad day for Max Hardcore and his ability to make profits.

r


It is a sad day for america.........this is govt. overreach that has profound implications. This is merely the "precedent". The guy shipped his material to other "ADULTS" who purchased his product. YOu're a free market guy........you should be appalled by this and the precedent it sets. Some town in Lousiana tried, unsuccessfully, to prosecute people who purchased sex toys online.........think they'll get bolstered by this decision?? You bet they will. So anyone here who has a fleshlight better keep it in good working condition because local obscenity laws could prevent you from purchasing a replacement........ :rolleyes:
 
plifter said:
So much for free speech. Obscenity laws are absolutely illogical, especially when they use the "community standards" nonsense. It's the only law where a perpetrator has no way of knowing he's breaking the law until AFTER he's convicted.



ding ding ding!!! exactly^^^^^^^
 
fistfullofsteel said:
he is one sick bastard, that is for sure. of course, some get off on that shit.



yeah, I personally don't find his video's "erotic" in any way shape or form...........amusing at best. But if you let someone dictate that his shit can't be bought by adults because it's "obscene"..........the next thing will be no movies depicting any kind of buttsex...........and for that there would be blood!! :redhot:
 
redsamurai said:
yeah, I personally don't find his video's "erotic" in any way shape or form...........amusing at best. But if you let someone dictate that his shit can't be bought by adults because it's "obscene"..........the next thing will be no movies depicting any kind of buttsex...........and for that there would be blood!! :redhot:

Bush creates the patriot act, and american retards vote him back in. WTF do you expect?

Lots of middle eastern males are still locked up w/o even a trial or charges. Where's their rallying crowd???

btw: Prostitution, with or without a video camera - is still illegal. Otherwise I'm putting up my "make your own porn video at our studio" store up tomorrow.

r
 
redsamurai said:
yeah, I personally don't find his video's "erotic" in any way shape or form...........amusing at best. But if you let someone dictate that his shit can't be bought by adults because it's "obscene"..........the next thing will be no movies depicting any kind of buttsex...........and for that there would be blood!! :redhot:


not the first time. two life crew was banned for explicit lyrics long time ago by a florida judge.
 
Obscenity laws are archaic, overreaching, overly-broad and, in my opinion, unconstitutional. Keep it on the books that no minors can by used or sold to and that no one should do anything against their will and with written consent. Those are the only laws we need governing porn.
 
plifter said:
I'm still stunned by this. We are fighting a war in Iraq dubbed "Operation Iraqi Freedom". However, we have no freedom of speech in our own country. I no longer recognize my own country. I hope this one makes it to the US Supreme Court and they find the law unconstitutional.

this is what happens with a republican fundamentalist-corrupted justice dept.

less than a year after 9/11, when you would think every available resource would be devoted to making sure we're safe from "terrorists" et al, AG John Ashcroft appeared before some big bible-thumping group and pledged that his Justice dept will tirelessly continue the fight against pornography.

God dont like teh porn

WTF?????
 
Mavafanculo said:
this is what happens with a republican fundamentalist-corrupted justice dept.

less than a year after 9/11, when you would think every available resource would be devoted to making sure we're safe from "terrorists" et al, AG John Ashcroft appeared before some big bible-thumping group and pledged that his Justice dept will tirelessly continue the fight against pornography.

God dont like teh porn

WTF?????
John Ashcroft is the devil.

Seriously.
 
heatherrae said:
John Ashcroft is the devil.

Seriously.

he ordered that the Lady Justice statue be covered up because one breast was exposed. spent $8,000 taxpayer money for his repressed idiocy. The statute has been there since the building was built. turd.

the priorities of a fanatic.

The cases coming to trial now still reflect his priorities, appointments and policies.

ltc2-ashcroft_statue.jpg
 
heatherrae said:
Obscenity laws are archaic, overreaching, overly-broad and, in my opinion, unconstitutional. Keep it on the books that no minors can by used or sold to and that no one should do anything against their will and with written consent. Those are the only laws we need governing porn.

Most people in the porn industry do not pay taxes.

It's easy to connect the dots after that.

r
 
porn isn't prostitution, that was ruled on a long time ago. And yeah, sucks for those middle eastern guys........but we're talking about porn now.........I mean life has it's priorities no???




:lmao:



Razorguns said:
Bush creates the patriot act, and american retards vote him back in. WTF do you expect?

Lots of middle eastern males are still locked up w/o even a trial or charges. Where's their rallying crowd???

btw: Prostitution, with or without a video camera - is still illegal. Otherwise I'm putting up my "make your own porn video at our studio" store up tomorrow.

r
 
Razorguns said:
Most people in the porn industry do not pay taxes.

It's easy to connect the dots after that.

r


No, porn is pretty above board.......at least nowadays. You might have some internet startups that fuck around...........but do you honestly think wicked pictures is fucking around with their returns?? No fuckin way........they know they fuck up in the slightest uncle sam will come for em. No........the place where people don't pay taxes is in the strip club business. Now there's an industry where tracking wages is next to impossible.
 
redsamurai said:
No, porn is pretty above board.......at least nowadays. You might have some internet startups that fuck around...........but do you honestly think wicked pictures is fucking around with their returns?? No fuckin way........they know they fuck up in the slightest uncle sam will come for em. No........the place where people don't pay taxes is in the strip club business. Now there's an industry where tracking wages is next to impossible.

hahahaha

I know 3 porn stars, and neither has payed any taxes in 4 years.

And wicked is just a holding company, and they use contractors who are registered foreign. Think it's still legit???

silly slut.

r
 
I just watched a bunch of his clips

I dont get what the big deal is

he doesnt do anything to the girls I havent done countless times


:whatever:
 
he likes to poke through their anus into their vags

he's a sick fvck
 
lmao


"But male indifference to female discomfort is exactly the hook here: When Barbie Angel played a little-girl innocent in 1996's Max World 3, cooing, "I'm scared it'll hurt, Mister," the director said reassuringly: "Oh it's gonna hurt a little bit. But that's okay--it makes my cock feel good." That about sums up the philosophy of Max "Hardcore"
 
I don't know any pornstars per se, but I know alot of guys who own their own production companies. I'm not buying what you're saying about wicked. Just because the 3 dumb sluts you know haven't paid their taxes, doesn't mean that one day they aren't going to get fucked for it. It's pretty simple dude.........a pornstars work on film is EASILY documentable. What a stripper makes in a hand to hand transaction in a closed off booth is almost impossible to track. Strippers are also considered "private contractors"........so there is a "minimum" they have to report.......but compared to what they "really" make it's a joke. I'm not saying the entire porn business is completely above board..........but they can't be fuckin with their numbers too much, especially an outfit like wicked. Again, auditing say........Jenna Jameson for any given year isn't that difficult because her work is EASILY obtained and observed. Now what she might make whoring on the side is obviously a different story.



Razorguns said:
hahahaha

I know 3 porn stars, and neither has payed any taxes in 4 years.

And wicked is just a holding company, and they use contractors who are registered foreign. Think it's still legit???

silly slut.

r
 
redsamurai said:
I don't know any pornstars per se, but I know alot of guys who own their own production companies. I'm not buying what you're saying about wicked. Just because the 3 dumb sluts you know haven't paid their taxes, doesn't mean that one day they aren't going to get fucked for it. It's pretty simple dude.........a pornstars work on film is EASILY documentable. What a stripper makes in a hand to hand transaction in a closed off booth is almost impossible to track. Strippers are also considered "private contractors"........so there is a "minimum" they have to report.......but compared to what they "really" make it's a joke. I'm not saying the entire porn business is completely above board..........but they can't be fuckin with their numbers too much, especially an outfit like wicked. Again, auditing say........Jenna Jameson for any given year isn't that difficult because her work is EASILY obtained and observed. Now what she might make whoring on the side is obviously a different story.

Doesn't work like that. Especially when you're paying cash.

How many illegal mexicans pay taxes. How come the goverjnment isn't going after them? Or corporations that hire them?

I've also dated strippers (and musiicians to be fair) who haven't paid taxes in years either.

Silly slut.

r
 
I would find it incredulous that a company with such a demonstrable product would keep shoddy bookeeping records. I totally hear you on the cash thing......that's why strippers make bank because there's no way to keep track of the cash that's being transacted behind closed curtains. But regardless of whether wicked is paying cash or not, their income can be WELL documented. So maybe uncle sam just doesn't want to bother with porn, but I know when I worked in the strip club business the GM"s would say that the owners would periodically get attempted to be fucked by the IRS..........they would walk into one of the clubs and demand to see bookeeping and would fucking try to determine what even some of the low paying waitresses were pulling in to make sure they were claiming enough. I remember just as I was leaving SF one of the door girls got hit with an IRS letter claiming she owed 27K. I forget exactly "how" that transpired.....but our GM was pissed at her cause she filled out her forms wrong and that allowed the IRS to.....I dunno.........guesstimate how much she made over a certain period given that her actual income from the club was barely anything, her income came from "tips". So they still try to come after the little guy. I was appalled the govt gave a shit about a 20 year old girl who was making 9-10/hr..........disgustin.



oh yeah.............silly whore. :qt:


Razorguns said:
Doesn't work like that. Especially when you're paying cash.

How many illegal mexicans pay taxes. How come the goverjnment isn't going after them? Or corporations that hire them?

I've also dated strippers (and musiicians to be fair) who haven't paid taxes in years either.

Silly slut.

r
 
redsamurai said:
I would find it incredulous that a company with such a demonstrable product would keep shoddy bookeeping records. I totally hear you on the cash thing......that's why strippers make bank because there's no way to keep track of the cash that's being transacted behind closed curtains. But regardless of whether wicked is paying cash or not, their income can be WELL documented. So maybe uncle sam just doesn't want to bother with porn, but I know when I worked in the strip club business the GM"s would say that the owners would periodically get attempted to be fucked by the IRS..........they would walk into one of the clubs and demand to see bookeeping and would fucking try to determine what even some of the low paying waitresses were pulling in to make sure they were claiming enough. I remember just as I was leaving SF one of the door girls got hit with an IRS letter claiming she owed 27K. I forget exactly "how" that transpired.....but our GM was pissed at her cause she filled out her forms wrong and that allowed the IRS to.....I dunno.........guesstimate how much she made over a certain period given that her actual income from the club was barely anything, her income came from "tips". So they still try to come after the little guy. I was appalled the govt gave a shit about a 20 year old girl who was making 9-10/hr..........disgustin.



oh yeah.............silly whore. :qt:

Wicked doesn't make porn. They're a video distribution and marketing company. Paying people to have sex is illegal. They have no "movie lots". Silly whore.

r
 
isn't that the guy who pisses in pornstars mouths? lol
 
Razorguns said:
hahahaha

I know 3 porn stars, and neither has payed any taxes in 4 years.

And wicked is just a holding company, and they use contractors who are registered foreign. Think it's still legit???

silly slut.

r


which pornstars do you know?
 
Razorguns said:
Wicked doesn't make porn. They're a video distribution and marketing company. Paying people to have sex is illegal. They have no "movie lots". Silly whore.

r


ok silly goose, so whoever the production companies are that are making the porn........whatever. I didn't realize wicked didn't actually shoot the porn...........that's news to me susan.
 
Razorguns said:
Wicked doesn't make porn. They're a video distribution and marketing company. Paying people to have sex is illegal. They have no "movie lots". Silly whore.

r
paying people have sex for the purposes of video entertainment is not illegal

and many porn companies do have "lots" or "sets" some of the small companies will rent a lot from lager ones.

Nowdays the trend is to use private homes and residences for shoots, but in the 80s there were many porn lots in the san fernando valley.
 
Lestat said:
paying people have sex for the purposes of video entertainment is not illegal

and many porn companies do have "lots" or "sets" some of the small companies will rent a lot from lager ones.

Nowdays the trend is to use private homes and residences for shoots, but in the 80s there were many porn lots in the san fernando valley.

first off, stick to the sd pubs and stick to the partying pics.

Now take your ass over to craigslist.org and post "Wanted women to MAKE porn movie. $500 for anal, blowjob, masturbation and stripping. 8 hours w/meals".

Let me know how long it takes before someone knocks on your door.

There are no 'backlots'. I assume you're just talking out of your butt again.

either that, or take your ass, once again, over to exotica-la this month, and go talk to the distributors. Tell me what they say.

r
 
Razorguns said:
first off, stick to the sd pubs and stick to the partying pics.

Now take your ass over to craigslist.org and post "Wanted women to MAKE porn movie. $500 for anal, blowjob, masturbation and stripping. 8 hours w/meals".

Let me know how long it takes before someone knocks on your door.

There are no 'backlots'. I assume you're just talking out of your butt again.

either that, or take your ass, once again, over to exotica-la this month, and go talk to the distributors. Tell me what they say.

r


which pornstars do you know?
 
redsamurai said:
It is a sad day for america.........this is govt. overreach that has profound implications. This is merely the "precedent". The guy shipped his material to other "ADULTS" who purchased his product. YOu're a free market guy........you should be appalled by this and the precedent it sets. Some town in Lousiana tried, unsuccessfully, to prosecute people who purchased sex toys online.........think they'll get bolstered by this decision?? You bet they will. So anyone here who has a fleshlight better keep it in good working condition because local obscenity laws could prevent you from purchasing a replacement........ :rolleyes:

Reminds me when Al Gore and Tipper were leading the music censorship in the 1980's and burning Ozzy LP's.
 
Army Vet said:
Reminds me when Al Gore and Tipper were leading the music censorship in the 1980's and burning Ozzy LP's.
lol I remember that... they came under alot of fire for that stunt... the southern Baptist churches were giving money for albums and then burning them in bon-fires on Saturday... Weird
 
heatherrae said:
John Ashcroft is the devil.

Seriously.
Agreed Heather, he has inacted some of the most ridiculous mirandas known... I use to have a list. I will see if I can find it..
 
_Yossarian_ said:
haha!
I didnt know who max hardcore was either, so i wiki'ed him....
direct quote from wikipedia:

"On June 5th 2008 Max Hardcore was found guilty and convicted on 20 counts of not taking enough dumps on girls faces by a Tampa, Florida Jury"

LOL!!!! awesome. I wonder who fucked this up. you aim for the chest, idiot. You cant kiss her after you shat on her face.....
lmao!
the prosecutor should be tarred and feathered, same with any da that vigorusly prosecutes weed possession
 
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