Mass Shooting at Virginia Tech...

[bluepeter]

In that line of thought, there should also be a mental health test before someone gets a driver's license. Cars kill way more people than guns do every year. Or maybe we should ban cars.

Love that argument. Guns are designed to shoot things. They are designed for the express purpose of ending life. Cars are not.

**disclaimer**

I'm not an anti-gun guy. Just having a laugh cause I see that argument so often and it strikes me as silly.

 

[xrsist]

pistols and rifles? or just pistols?
def. gonna be some legislation due to this

its what happened here, martin bryant port arthur tasmania:As a response to the spree killing, the Howard government banned semi-automatic centerfire rifles, high-capacity repeating shotguns and high-capacity rifle magazines. In addition to this, heavy limitations were also put into place on low-capacity repeating shotguns and rimfire semi-automatic rifles. The Tasmanian state government attempted to ignore this directive but was threatened with a number of penalties from the federal government. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Bryant

 

[redguru]

Well I will agree and side with Adrain Fenty the new mayor of Washington DC. Guns need to be outlawed. The second amendment only applied to state militias

Madison (who, incidently, introduced the Bill of Rights) disagrees.

If the representatives of the people betray their constituents, there is then no recourse left but in the exertion of that original right of self-defense which is paramount to all positive forms of government, and which against the usurpations of the national rulers may be exerted with infinitely better prospect of success than against those of the rulers of an individual State. In a single State, if the persons intrusted with supreme power become usurpers, the different parcels, subdivisions, or districts of which it consists, having no distinct government in each, can take no regular measures for defense. The citizens must rush tumultuously to arms, without concert, without system, without resource; except in their courage and despair.

But you go right out there and think that.

 

[javaguru]

The problem is that there's in no psychological test you can administer when purchasing a gun. I would say that an individual should be referred to some mental health clinic and given a test before purchasing a gun???

I don't know , but banning the gun would cure the problem

Charles Whitman killed 15 and wounded 31 with a shotgun and a hunting rifle at the University of Texas in 1966. These two weapons will never be banned. Even if all firearms were banned it would just force more "creativity" for the disturbed individual. I know we fundamentally disagree on the subject of gun control and I'm sure an internet thread won't change that.

 

[mountain muscle]

Love that argument. Guns are designed to shoot things. They are designed for the express purpose of ending life. Cars are not.

**disclaimer**

I'm not an anti-gun guy. Just having a laugh cause I see that argument so often and it strikes me as silly.

You just proved my point. Cars kill way more people than guns and they are not even designed to! Sounds like they should be banned.
The point of the argument is to point out how silly the banning guns argument is in fact.

No one likes to talk about the effects of banning guns because it proves their argument void.

 

[xrsist]

i just read "32 dead and 28 being treated" http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=261448

 

[cindylou]

So you missed the point completely eh?

Would banning water increase the amount of drownings? Banning guns increases crime.

eh


I was trying to agree with you and making a joke about how banning guns does not save lives.

picky picky

 

[gjohnson5]

I apologize.

james Madison did not foresee a nation where children would be gunned down in schools by wacko's etc. This is one case where I think the ideas of the founders does not apply since this is a different time and the USA has evolved since his day.

Anyway, a gun ban would seem to betray only gun totters anyway... How is it that self defense is limited to firearms?

Madison (who, incidently, introduced the Bill of Rights) disagrees.

If the representatives of the people betray their constituents, there is then no recourse left but in the exertion of that original right of self-defense which is paramount to all positive forms of government, and which against the usurpations of the national rulers may be exerted with infinitely better prospect of success than against those of the rulers of an individual State. In a single State, if the persons intrusted with supreme power become usurpers, the different parcels, subdivisions, or districts of which it consists, having no distinct government in each, can take no regular measures for defense. The citizens must rush tumultuously to arms, without concert, without system, without resource; except in their courage and despair.

But you go right out there and think that.

 

[redguru]

Charles Whitman killed 15 and wounded 31 with a shotgun and a hunting rifle at the University of Texas in 1966. These two weapons will never be banned. Even if all firearms were banned it would just force more "creativity" for the disturbed individual. I know we fundamentally disagree on the subject of gun control and I'm sure an internet thread won't change that.

Christ, you trying to keep hold of a dime in that avatar?

 

[CENTURION44]

its now up to 32 dead and more to come..holy ...whats wrong with people